RE: herc microwin support

1999-07-13 Thread Scott Lanning
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: >Send me the code if you can find it, I'll look at wrapping it into a driver, >but I need someone else to test it, since I've got no herc card either. I have a Hercules. It may be only monochrome, though.

Re: compile 0.0.77 problems

1999-07-13 Thread Scott Lanning
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote: >Clean your source tree using 'make distclean', and then do 'make config' I see my mistake now. I initially used non-default options, then it didn't work, so I did 'make clean' instead of 'make distclean'. It compiled fine after 'make distclean'. I'm s

RE: Hardware

1999-07-13 Thread Radek Hnilica
Hello, > > To my understanding ELKS is aimed as a teaching project as well as an > > embedded OS, there are huge numbers of out of date machine being buried > > as trash, hopeful ELKS will bring new life to these machines. Some > > machine based around the 8086 do have memory prote

Re: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Luke (boo) Farrar wrote: > Do we still have the 512k file size limit? > > I thought that libc was bigger than this or something, and that was one of > the limiting factors on a self hosted bcc. Not quite. I didn't actually know about the 512k limit, but greg says it's the

RE: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: > : I agree, but of late I've had little enthusiasm to try and trim the fat > : off the larger areas of the code. > > Hmm.. I haven't got to that yet. What other areas are bloated? I basically did an: ls -lS `find -name *.a` to find all the lar

RE: herc microwin support

1999-07-13 Thread Beau Kuiper
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Patrick LAM wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: > > > Well - you've got a good point - an 8086 is probably *way* too slow > > to run graphics programs of any merit. However, I would like to add > > a screen driver for hercules. Is hercules only monochrome, o

RE: herc microwin support

1999-07-13 Thread Beau Kuiper
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: > On Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:35 PM, Thomas Stewart >[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > : I think it is a good idea to look into herc support for microwin? How many > : 8086's do you know with a VGA card? OR is it a bad idea are 8086's too slow > : to run

RE: herc microwin support

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
: Monochrome adapters probably wouldn't take too much CPU to support. The : most used type of Hercules card was 720x348x2 (with lots of clones) -- : perhaps this was the most common type of video card for a few years -- : although there was also a Hercules Color Card (which doesn't seem to ha

RE: herc microwin support

1999-07-13 Thread Patrick LAM
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: > Well - you've got a good point - an 8086 is probably *way* too slow > to run graphics programs of any merit. However, I would like to add > a screen driver for hercules. Is hercules only monochrome, or does > it support color? Do you know how the

RE: herc microwin support

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
On Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:35 PM, Thomas Stewart [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: : I think it is a good idea to look into herc support for microwin? How many : 8086's do you know with a VGA card? OR is it a bad idea are 8086's too slow : to run microwin? : Well - you've got a good po

RE: mouse in microwin

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
On Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:30 PM, Thomas Stewart [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: : I still can't get the mouse to work in microwin, : I have tryed editing the sorce file "mwin/src/drivers/mou_ser.c" : changing the "#define MOUSE_TYPE "pc"" to pc,ms,logi : it still does not work : what can

RE: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
: Do we still have the 512k file size limit? Yep. But I'll fix it. : : I thought that libc was bigger than this or something, and that was one of : the limiting factors on a self hosted bcc. Did I remember this wrong? You're right. Its kinda funny that we could get the com

herc microwin support

1999-07-13 Thread Thomas Stewart
I think it is a good idea to look into herc support for microwin? How many 8086's do you know with a VGA card? OR is it a bad idea are 8086's too slow to run microwin? If anyone else is interested I have some specs and some assembler examples of how to control the herc card. From Thomas Stewa

Re: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Luke (boo) Farrar
> > This is why elvis, as86, and many, many other large programs have never > > run. Elks never let programs have > 32k data segments! > > With this fix, I plan on self-hosting bcc and as86, which now will > > run... > > The reason bcc wouldn't run was because it was too large (> 64k) to eve

mouse in microwin

1999-07-13 Thread Thomas Stewart
I still can't get the mouse to work in microwin, I have tryed editing the sorce file "mwin/src/drivers/mou_ser.c" changing the "#define MOUSE_TYPE "pc"" to pc,ms,logi it still does not work what can i do From Thomas Stewart :-) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

RE: ELKS 0.77 patch #2

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
Al, In regards to patch #2, are you trying to make almost all the mods I sent in, including the elkscmd makefile stuff? I would like it if you could. Also, I have rewritten dircon.c last night (except for the bell()) issue that you just mentioned). I have attached it. It is better tha

RE: microwin

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
On Tuesday, July 13, 1999 8:25 AM, Alistair Riddoch [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: : Greg Haerr writes: : > : > : > Actually signals don't work well yet. Try ^C in a variety of programs, : > and you'll find yourself logged out with the original still running, etc. : > : : This is because

ELKS select() bug test program

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
Al, I have written a test program for the select() bug. This Makefile replaces the one in MicroWindows 0.82, and builds a test program. Test.c uses select exactly like microwindows does, and doesn't use a graphics screen. All kbd and mouse events are printf'd to the screen. Type ESC to

RE: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
: : I agree, but of late I've had little enthusiasm to try and trim the fat : off the larger areas of the code. In particular, the inode hashing code : in fs (or is it specific to minixfs) is basically redundant. Firstly, we : can do without hashing for a slight speed decrease. Also, the hashi

RE: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
: Yep, it won't do anything. The only commands supported, are: m (color), : s (save location), u (unsave location), A (up), B (down), C (right), : D (left), K (clear EOL). Mainly because these functions were already : existing in the dircon code so it was very easy to interface to them. :

RE: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
> email the patches for elks 0.77 and elkscmd 0.77. : > : > o Ported elvis to ELKS : : Is this based on the code that was in elkscmd? Yep. : : > o changed all elkscmd srcs to use tcsetattr/tcgetattr instead of ioctl : : I previously held back from doing this to make the mi

RE: microwin

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
On Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:00 PM, Blaz Antonic [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: : > protocol is set with environment variables (they don't work yet with ELKS, I have : > a patch coming) or a recompile of mwin/src/drivers/mou_ser.c. : : Of course they do. My mouse is attached to second serial por

Re: compile 0.0.77 problems

1999-07-13 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Scott Lanning writes: > > Hi, my name is Scott, and I'm a newbie. :) > > I'm trying out ELKS 0.0.77. The images supplied worked fine when > I put booted them in my 286. Very cool. > Now I'm trying to compile it. I think I followed the directions > and didn't change any default configurations

Re: microwin

1999-07-13 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Greg Haerr writes: > > > Actually signals don't work well yet. Try ^C in a variety of programs, > and you'll find yourself logged out with the original still running, etc. > This is because sash does not catch SIGINT. This is fixed in the next release. Al

Re: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Greg Haerr writes: > > Al, > I spent a good portion of the weekend fixing quite a few ELKS > bugs, trying to get a good visual editor running. It seems I have succeeded. > Following is the list of fixes that I have performed. I will attach in the next > email the patches for elks 0.77 and

Re: microwin

1999-07-13 Thread Blaz Antonic
> protocol is set with environment variables (they don't work yet with ELKS, I have > a patch coming) or a recompile of mwin/src/drivers/mou_ser.c. Of course they do. My mouse is attached to second serial port (/dev/ttys1) so default code wouldn't work (nothing happened when i moved mouse, of cou

Re: Recent kernel updates

1999-07-13 Thread Alex Holden
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Alistair Riddoch wrote: > but it is impossible to get debugging output out of the kernel when the > console is in graphics mode! Can't you just dump to a serial port? I've used that before when debugging a framebuffer driver on Big Linux... --- Linux- the choice

RE: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: > Killed your baby? Why, it seems this one died from neglect ;-) > try typing ESC [ H on the console. Nothing happens. Yep, it won't do anything. The only commands supported, are: m (color), s (save location), u (unsave location), A (up), B (down),

RE: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread Greg Haerr
: You killed my baby?? Exactly how has it stopped working? It's not a very : complete implementation, only half-a-dozen ANSI commands are supported. Killed your baby? Why, it seems this one died from neglect ;-) try typing ESC [ H on the console. Nothing happens. : : > o added

overlay instead of/also swap? (Was: Re: ELKS bugs fixed)

1999-07-13 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, David Murn wrote: > The reason bcc wouldn't run was because it was too large (> 64k) to even > link. This is where the fat has to be trimmed first, before anyone even > starts to worry about running it. I've wondered if it's possible to use > temporary files in some way, an

Re: ELKS bugs fixed

1999-07-13 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Greg Haerr wrote: > BTW, the ansi elks console doesn't work. I can rewrite it quickly if > nobody minds. You killed my baby?? Exactly how has it stopped working? It's not a very complete implementation, only half-a-dozen ANSI commands are supported. > o added TERM=