hi folks,
I just saw an interesting line over at opensuse.org (
http://news.opensuse.org/2010/04/14/opensuse-11-3-milestone-5-the-community-strikes-back/)
regarding the installation of JACK2 as default in the upcoming opensuse 11.3
release. That wasn't the interesting part. This is:
The JACK team
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 03:06:28PM +0900, michael noble wrote:
> hi folks,
Hi!
> Are any interested or invested parties willing to provide some clarification
> on this? I know distros are fully welcome to package whatever they wish. I
> also am pretty sure that whatever happens will happen regar
Excerpts from Adrian Knoth's message of 2010-04-16 11:21:12 +0200:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 03:06:28PM +0900, michael noble wrote:
>
> > hi folks,
>
> Hi!
>
> > Are any interested or invested parties willing to provide some clarification
> > on this? I know distros are fully welcome to package
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:21:12AM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 03:06:28PM +0900, michael noble wrote:
>
> > hi folks,
>
> Hi!
>
> > Are any interested or invested parties willing to provide some clarification
> > on this? I know distros are fully welcome to package whate
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:32:16AM +0200, Philipp wrote:
> > Also note that there's no (easy) way back, we're entirely switching to
> > jackd2, that is, the user won't have the possibility to select jackd1
> > instead.
> May I ask for the reasoning behind this?
There are many reasons, some techni
torbenh wrote:
>> Also note that there's no (easy) way back, we're entirely switching to
>> jackd2, that is, the user won't have the possibility to select jackd1
>> instead.
>>
>
> great... many thanks. :(((
>
For me this will be an advantage, because now I need to build several
dummy
Am Freitag, den 16.04.2010, 18:52 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> torbenh wrote:
> >> Also note that there's no (easy) way back, we're entirely switching to
> >> jackd2, that is, the user won't have the possibility to select jackd1
> >> instead.
> >>
> >
> > great... many thanks. :(((
> >
torbenh wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:21:12AM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 03:06:28PM +0900, michael noble wrote:
>>
>>
>>> hi folks,
>>>
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>>> Are any interested or invested parties willing to provide some clarification
>>> on this? I
hermann wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 16.04.2010, 18:52 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
>
>> torbenh wrote:
>>
Also note that there's no (easy) way back, we're entirely switching to
jackd2, that is, the user won't have the possibility to select jackd1
instead.
On Friday 16 April 2010 19:23:33 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> hermann wrote:
> > I hope, when debian switch to jack2, they will make it in one packet
> > (maximal a second for the dev files), that's what could make it easer to
> > switch the version for people how like to switch.
> Full ACK, OTOH let's pu
Am Freitag, den 16.04.2010, 19:38 +0200 schrieb Arnold Krille:
> On Friday 16 April 2010 19:23:33 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > hermann wrote:
> > > I hope, when debian switch to jack2, they will make it in one packet
> > > (maximal a second for the dev files), that's what could make it easer to
> > > sw
Arnold Krille wrote:
> On Friday 16 April 2010 19:23:33 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> hermann wrote:
>>
>>> I hope, when debian switch to jack2, they will make it in one packet
>>> (maximal a second for the dev files), that's what could make it easer to
>>> switch the version for people how like
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Arnold Krille wrote:
>> On Friday 16 April 2010 19:23:33 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>
>>> hermann wrote:
>>>
I hope, when debian switch to jack2, they will make it in one packet
(maximal a second for the dev files), that's what could make it
easer to
switc
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Arnold Krille wrote:
>>> On Friday 16 April 2010 19:23:33 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>
hermann wrote:
> I hope, when debian switch to jack2, they will make it in one packet
> (maximal a second for the dev files), that's what could make
> Also note that there's no (easy) way back, we're entirely switching to
> jackd2, that is, the user won't have the possibility to select jackd1
> instead.
>
>
>
> HTH
>
Glad I use a distro that gives me choice. Enjoy yours.
--
Christopher Cherrett
ccherr...@openoctave.org
http://www.openoct
Christopher Cherrett wrote:
>> Also note that there's no (easy) way back, we're entirely switching to
>> jackd2, that is, the user won't have the possibility to select jackd1
>> instead.
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
> Glad I use a distro that gives me choice. Enjoy yours.
>
I guess you are ab
Original Message
Subject: Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: Christopher Cherrett
Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org
Date: 04/16/2010 12:36 PM
> Christopher Cherrett wrote:
>>> Also note that there's no (easy) way back, we'
Am Freitag, den 16.04.2010, 12:46 -0600 schrieb Christopher Cherrett:
> Original Message
> Subject: Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?
> From: Ralf Mardorf
> To: Christopher Cherrett
> Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org
> Date: 04/16/2010 12:36
Christopher Cherrett wrote:
> Original Message
> Subject: Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?
> From: Ralf Mardorf
> To: Christopher Cherrett
> Cc: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org
> Date: 04/16/2010 12:36 PM
>
>> Christopher Cherrett wr
hermann wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 16.04.2010, 12:46 -0600 schrieb Christopher Cherrett:
>
>> Original Message
>> Subject: Re: [LAD] distros migrating to JACK2?
>> From: Ralf Mardorf
>> To: Christopher Cherrett
>> Cc: linux-audio-dev@list
On 04/16/2010 08:06 AM, michael noble wrote:
> hi folks,
>
> I just saw an interesting line over at opensuse.org (
> http://news.opensuse.org/2010/04/14/opensuse-11-3-milestone-5-the-community-strikes-back/)
> regarding the installation of JACK2 as default in the upcoming opensuse 11.3
> release.
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
> On 04/16/2010 08:06 AM, michael noble wrote:
>
>> hi folks,
>>
>> I just saw an interesting line over at opensuse.org (
>> http://news.opensuse.org/2010/04/14/opensuse-11-3-milestone-5-the-community-strikes-back/)
>> regarding the installation of JACK2 as default in t
At Grame, we started working on JACK (jack1 at that time) in 2003 and our first
commitment was to port the C code base on OSX. Even if the result was working,
we rapidly felt that the C code base was not flexible enough to evolve in the
direction we wanted to explore: multi-platforms support, SM
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:10:10PM +0200, Stéphane LETZ wrote:
> Concerning session management added in JACK codebase, I did not followed the
> discussion in details. I said to Paul in a private mail that I though it was
> not a good idea (but maybe I am completely wrong...) but I would certainl
On Friday 16 April 2010 13:55:49 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Arnold Krille wrote:
> > On Friday 16 April 2010 19:23:33 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >> hermann wrote:
> >>> I hope, when debian switch to jack2, they will make it in one packet
> >>> (maximal a second for the dev files), that's what could make it e
Hi,
On Friday 16 April 2010 19:55:49 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Arnold, I don't have much money. 1. A hard disk isn't expensive.
Sometimes a big hard-disk is not a question. Sometimes you use hardware that
can't use big hard-disks.
> 2. For
> e.g. 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 amd64 libjack0.100.0-dev does ne
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-04-17 23:15:11 +0200:
>...
> That way your favourite
> music player can have an output plugin that looks for jack and if that is not
> running, looks for pulse and finally choose direct alsa for playback...
>
> Have fun,
>
> Arnold
I don't see why
Ok Marije, Arnold, Philipp :)
programs don't depend to the development files, so I perceive that they
should be separated.
Today for 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 = Ubuntu Hardy we do have a package jackd
including /usr/bin/jackd.
A package jackdbus including nothing but copyright, TODO etc..
A package li
Excerpts from Ralf Mardorf's message of 2010-04-18 11:01:41 +0200:
> Ok Marije, Arnold, Philipp :)
>
> programs don't depend to the development files, so I perceive that they
> should be separated.
> Today for 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 = Ubuntu Hardy we do have a package jackd
> including /usr/bin/jac
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:09:53AM +0200, Philipp wrote:
> I don't really know, nor care, about debian specific packaging stuff.
> What I know is that it has a record of being broken.
Stop that FUD. Ok, a lot was broken until last year, but I fixed
everything and worked closely together with upst
Philipp wrote:
> Excerpts from Ralf Mardorf's message of 2010-04-18 11:01:41 +0200:
>
>> Ok Marije, Arnold, Philipp :)
>>
>> programs don't depend to the development files, so I perceive that they
>> should be separated.
>> Today for 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 = Ubuntu Hardy we do have a package jackd
Adrian Knoth wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:09:53AM +0200, Philipp wrote:
>
>
>> I don't really know, nor care, about debian specific packaging stuff.
>> What I know is that it has a record of being broken.
>>
>
> Stop that FUD. Ok, a lot was broken until last year, but I fixed
> every
Excerpts from Adrian Knoth's message of 2010-04-18 11:25:57 +0200:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:09:53AM +0200, Philipp wrote:
>
> > I don't really know, nor care, about debian specific packaging stuff.
> > What I know is that it has a record of being broken.
>
> Stop that FUD. Ok, a lot was broke
Philipp wrote:
> What was the topic again?
:D
I've sent what I guess the topic should be 3 minutes before you sent
your mail.
Again.
IMO the topic should be the free choice between JACK1 and JACK2. It's
unimportant if there is one package or if there are 5 packages for each
JACK. JACK3, DBUS
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:44:54AM +0200, Philipp wrote:
> What was the topic again?
We're working on it.
"it" as in "different jack implementations in Debian". Historically, we
only had jackd1, but I guess we'll at least see jackd1 and jackd2,
perhaps also tschack, and the user will be able to
Adrian Knoth wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:44:54AM +0200, Philipp wrote:
>
>
>> What was the topic again?
>>
>
> We're working on it.
>
> "it" as in "different jack implementations in Debian". Historically, we
> only had jackd1, but I guess we'll at least see jackd1 and jackd2,
> perh
hermann wrote: [snip ... because it's off-list, but I guess the thread
shouldn't be closed, pardon]
There are several reasons why people like to switch between versions of
JACK and it isn't that easy to do. Not every musician has knowledge
about technique. Comparison to other OS are irrelevant.
Ups, it go's offline wrong button. :-)
I don't understand all this trouble, we have the choice, no mater witch
distro we use and no mater witch version the distro use as default, we
could switch to the jack version we wont. That's what brings us in this
situation. Sometimes it need more or less w
On Sunday 18 April 2010 00:14:31 Philipp wrote:
> Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-04-17 23:15:11 +0200:
> >...
> > That way your favourite
> > music player can have an output plugin that looks for jack and if that is
> > not running, looks for pulse and finally choose direct alsa for
On 19 April 2010 01:42, Arnold Krille wrote:
> Hm, which distribution apart from gentoo do you know that has jacks libs and
> server/apps in one package?
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/jack/files/
We do not believe in the extra work of splitting package files for no
added benefit.
Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-04-18 19:42:00 +0200:
> On Sunday 18 April 2010 00:14:31 Philipp wrote:
> > Excerpts from Arnold Krille's message of 2010-04-17 23:15:11 +0200:
> > >...
> > > That way your favourite
> > > music player can have an output plugin that looks for jack and i
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