On 16 Jan 2002 01:39:20 +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote:
>> I have also been in contacted by Nemesis and they have indicated that
>> if I were to do anything that infringes on thier patent(s) they
>> _WILL_ litigate.
>
>This might indicate that they want to spread fear, because they know
>they're in
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:40:34 +0100 (CET), Rene Rebe wrote:
>The only problematic part is, that the powerfull DSPs are BGA (Ball
>Grid Array these days - and designing such a PCB sucks ...)
>
Hmmm I think that most of the TI DSPs are still available in TQFP's and not
exclusively BGA's.
BGA aren
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Rene Rebe wrote:
> Building an external audio-box with multi analog input and outputs
> containting at least one DSP which is conencted via an existing bus
> (most likely Firewire).
> The only problematic part is, that the powerfull DSPs are BGA (Ball
> Grid Array these days
* Paul Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >Also, though the resulting code is portable to several platforms where
> >wxWindows has been ported, it's *extremely* non-portable to others,
> >because wx-isms seep into every part of your code.
>
> right. in my experience, you can't avoid this. thats w
>Would messing with the GUI internals even be possible from Python without
>modifying the bindings?
on the level i'm referring to, yes. GTK+ makes it possible to
fundamentally change the way events get handled without modifying
widget code. for example, gtk_signal_emit_block_by_name() is a very
u
Hi.
From: Paul Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] open-source like hardware
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:55:59 -0500
[...]
> >What about situation when there are no hw manufacturers willing to create
> >Linux driver nor give documentation to write one?
>
> its not true that
Marek Peteraj writes:
>
> > as i said, unix-like operating systems have done disk readahead for almost
> > as long as unix-like operating systems have existed (and multics
> > before them, i believe). we cannot allow nemesys/conexant to steal
> > this technology by pretending it was invente
Hi.
This email is proposed to gather the people who are interessted in
building such a sound-beast.
What I might do in the next time:
Building an external audio-box with multi analog input and outputs
containting at least one DSP which is conencted via an existing bus
(most likely Firewire).
S
> I have also been in contacted by Nemesis and they have indicated that
> if I were to do anything that infringes on thier patent(s) they
> _WILL_ litigate.
This might indicate that they want to spread fear, because they know
they're in a shaky position.
Just another thought.
Marek
* Paul Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >* Paul Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> >I would like to code up a proto of the interface though. I was
> >> >planning on trying to do it with python and something like wxPython.
> >> >Mostly because Python is my new favorite language and I need a
>
>> as i said, unix-like operating systems have done disk readahead for almost
>> as long as unix-like operating systems have existed (and multics
>> before them, i believe). we cannot allow nemesys/conexant to steal
>> this technology by pretending it was invented explicitly for audio. if
>> th
Kevin Conder wrote:
>
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, William J. DeMeo wrote:
>
> > Jussi Laako wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul Davis wrote:
> > > >
> > > > we didn't have to beg for specs on the trident cards, most
> > > > crystal-based cards, the RME cards, the ice1712 cards and on and on.
> >
> > out of curio
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Richard A. Smith wrote:
> Further on the sampler side. I have purchased the patent and
> challenge history for both of the patents held by Conexant and Nemesis
> for a computer/disk based sampler. The patents are very broad and
> IMHO very bogus.
>
> I have also been in con
> as i said, unix-like operating systems have done disk readahead for almost
> as long as unix-like operating systems have existed (and multics
> before them, i believe). we cannot allow nemesys/conexant to steal
> this technology by pretending it was invented explicitly for audio. if
> the USPT
Audiophile 2496 also by midiman:
http://www.midiman.net/products/m-audio/audiophile.php
Sound does not work on Quake3.
Not recommended for use with VIA chipset motherboards.
Sounds fantastic through even the most accurate amplifier and speakers.
On Tuesday 15 January 2002 12:49, you typed rand
> >There is an option where you can request the patent to re-evaluate
> >the patent. However, if they still don't find any problems then you
> >just made the patent _much_ harder to invalidate.
> >
Whoops I guess I should read more carefully next time. :))
Still, with those arguments Paul stated
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 19:54, Paul Davis wrote:
> >Well being one of those people I guess I should speak up and debunk
> >the nasty rumor that I have "vanished off the face of the earth"
> >before it spreads. I'm just happen to be in lurker mode now.
>
> sorry for seeding misinformation.
>
> >I
>This raises a question. Now that desktop computers can contain 2 GB of
>ram, has the window of opportunity closed for this technology? It might
>be easiest to flow around this rock.
this is a very important point.
however, people with only 128 or 256 or 512MB of RAM won't find much
comfort fr
>Thats actually a good point... I guess the answer is if 2 GB is
>enough RAM to have enough channels to overload the CPU and IO
>bandwith of the host. Things like GigaSampler allow you to layer and
>a bunch of instruments into one channel.
>
>It would still limit you when using things like GigaP
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, William J. DeMeo wrote:
> Jussi Laako wrote:
> >
> > Paul Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > we didn't have to beg for specs on the trident cards, most
> > > crystal-based cards, the RME cards, the ice1712 cards and on and on.
>
> out of curiousity... could you tell me what cards use
>* Paul Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >I would like to code up a proto of the interface though. I was
>> >planning on trying to do it with python and something like wxPython.
>> >Mostly because Python is my new favorite language and I need a good
>> >graphics project to work on.
>>
>> a
>out of curiousity... could you tell me what cards use ice1712, and which
>is the best (for music -- not games... no offense gamers).
best to see the soundcard matrix at alsa-project.org, which will, as
they say, "reveal all".
many people seem to like the Midiman Delta series.
--p
This amazes me that they can patent this. Because the concept is not new,
at least as far as I can tell. Just like when you are watching streaming
video or audio off the net, which is coming from an HD somewhere, it
buffers first so that while the movie is playing, it has enough extra time
loade
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:30:29 -0800, Tom wrote:
>This raises a question. Now that desktop computers can contain 2 GB of
>ram, has the window of opportunity closed for this technology? It might
>be easiest to flow around this rock.
>
Thats actually a good point... I guess the answer is if 2 GB
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:55:59 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
>few other people want them *a lot* doesn't do anything to balance the
>fact that very few people want them at all. companies that make small
>production runs need to charge a fortune for each item; companies that
Since I work for such a comp
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:54:40 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
>>Well being one of those people I guess I should speak up and debunk
>>the nasty rumor that I have "vanished off the face of the earth"
>>before it spreads. I'm just happen to be in lurker mode now.
>
>sorry for seeding misinformation.
>
No
* Paul Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >I would like to code up a proto of the interface though. I was
> >planning on trying to do it with python and something like wxPython.
> >Mostly because Python is my new favorite language and I need a good
> >graphics project to work on.
>
> any chan
Jussi Laako wrote:
>
> Paul Davis wrote:
> >
> > we didn't have to beg for specs on the trident cards, most
> > crystal-based cards, the RME cards, the ice1712 cards and on and on.
out of curiousity... could you tell me what cards use ice1712, and which
is the best (for music -- not games... no
> Sorry, I've obviously missed the start of this issue. Are you saying that
> sampling to HD is patented and no one can develop software that has this
> functionality?
No. The patent is about reading samples *from* HD and compensating for
the slowness of the initial HD seek by buffering the f
Hi,
I tried downloading
http://www.pp.song.fi/~visitor/dlbins/2.4.17-jl7-ll.patch.bz2
and the site came back with the "no permission message"
what's up?
thanks,
Ira
Ekhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Jussi Laako wrote:
>
> I would like to have soundcard with multichannel io and multiple user
> programmable DSP processors at resonable price. And of course with Linux
> drivers. Do you happen to know such device?
If your goal is to get an application running cheaply rather t
>Paul Davis wrote:
>>
>> we didn't have to beg for specs on the trident cards, most
>> crystal-based cards, the RME cards, the ice1712 cards and on and on.
>
>Some hw manufacturers could call ice1712 "open source", as the specs are
>open, it's reasonably priced (cheap) and performs very well.
>
>
>> writing GPL'ed software, and one of the best ways of doing this comes
>> from selling and/or partnering with h/w. if the h/w is GPL'ed and in
>> free or ultra-low-cost circulation, this option vanishes, leaving only
>
>What about situation when there are no hw manufacturers willing to create
>L
Sorry, I've obviously missed the start of this issue. Are you saying that
sampling to HD is patented and no one can develop software that has this
functionality?
---
> On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:43:16 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
>
> >>Benno's disk sampler evo? would be cool :)
> >
> >yeah, it would, e
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:32:43PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:16:57 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It should be noted however that some of the really famous guitar sound
> (ie Eric Clapton's Cream work) was done on Class A amplifiers which are
> not push-pull
John Meacham wrote:
>
> It will practically NEVER be cheaper to go get the boards on your own,
> remember the cost of getting boards or chips made is
> BIGNUMER + quantity*smallnumber. the designer can have them made in bulk
Yep, PCB manufacturers have starting costs of about 1200-1500 euros bec
Paul Davis wrote:
>
> we didn't have to beg for specs on the trident cards, most
> crystal-based cards, the RME cards, the ice1712 cards and on and on.
Some hw manufacturers could call ice1712 "open source", as the specs are
open, it's reasonably priced (cheap) and performs very well.
It create
Paul Davis wrote:
>
> writing GPL'ed software, and one of the best ways of doing this comes
> from selling and/or partnering with h/w. if the h/w is GPL'ed and in
> free or ultra-low-cost circulation, this option vanishes, leaving only
What about situation when there are no hw manufacturers will
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:38:14 +
Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:32:43 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> > It should be noted however that some of the really famous guitar sound
> > (ie Eric Clapton's Cream work) was done on Class A amplifiers which are
>
>Well being one of those people I guess I should speak up and debunk
>the nasty rumor that I have "vanished off the face of the earth"
>before it spreads. I'm just happen to be in lurker mode now.
sorry for seeding misinformation.
>I have also been in contacted by Nemesis and they have indicate
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:43:16 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
>>Benno's disk sampler evo? would be cool :)
>
>yeah, it would, except that all of its developers have vanished off
>the face of the earth and nothing has happened to it in at least 6
>months. not to mention that the hard part - designing and
Hi,
I'm also subscribed to some synth-diy lists
which are maybe of interest for things like
building a MIDI Interface.
The first is specialised in synth-diy projects
made with DSP's:
http://shoko.calarts.edu/~glmrboy/musicdsp/music-dsp.html
And the other is more for analog stuff:
http://www.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 11:41:11 -0800, Erik Walthinsen wrote:
> My two projects are ... and a
> totally motorized mixing surface.
If your CS experience doesn't include control theory you might be in for a
nasty supprise! Good luck though.
- Steve
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 09:32:43 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> It should be noted however that some of the really famous guitar sound
> (ie Eric Clapton's Cream work) was done on Class A amplifiers which are
> not push-pull at all :-).
Well, Eric Clapton is free to bypass that stage then ;)
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:16:57 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> See http://www.johnson-amp.com/pdf/CabinetImaging.pdf for info on
> speaker simulation.
>
> Crossover distortion has nothing to do with x-overs,
OK, I got that bit wrong.
It should be noted however that some of the really famous gu
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:16:57 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> See http://www.johnson-amp.com/pdf/CabinetImaging.pdf for info on
> speaker simulation.
Thanks, looks like they are using acoustic models or raytracing to model
cabinets, which was my first idea, but its very time consuming.
> B
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 06:15:55 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> I have never seen a real tube guitar amplifier with a crossover so the
> crossover should probably be ditched. Because guitar amps usually have
> 10, 12 or 15 inch speakers (from 1 up to 8) and rather large cabinets the
> correc
See http://www.johnson-amp.com/pdf/CabinetImaging.pdf for info on
speaker simulation.
Crossover distortion has nothing to do with x-overs, it's the distortion
effect of a push-pull power amp at phase crossover point where positive
and negative phases don't meet at where they should.
Best way (bu
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 06:15:55PM +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
> I have never seen a real tube guitar amplifier with a crossover so the
> crossover should probably be ditched. Because guitar amps usually have
> 10, 12 or 15 inch speakers (from 1 up to 8) and rather large cabinets the
> corr
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