[Linux-HA] Problem promoting Slave to Master

2013-03-15 Thread Fredrik Hudner
Hi all, I have a problem after I removed a node with the force command from my crm config. Originally I had 2 nodes running HA cluster (corosync 1.4.1-7.el6, pacemaker 1.1.7-6.el6) Then I wanted to add a third node acting as quorum node, but was not able to get it to work (probably because I

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Alberto Alonso
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 16:26 +0100, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2013-03-14T09:44:11, GGS (linux ha) support-linu...@ggsys.net wrote: That's fine. But the cluster software really assumes that only one instance of it is running per server - said instance can then manage multiple software

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Dejan Muhamedagic
hi, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:15:29AM -0500, Alberto Alonso wrote: On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 16:26 +0100, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: On 2013-03-14T09:44:11, GGS (linux ha) support-linu...@ggsys.net wrote: That's fine. But the cluster software really assumes that only one instance of it is

Re: [Linux-HA] RA heartbeat/exportfs hangs sporadically

2013-03-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 16:28 +0100, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:53:55AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 14:15 +0100, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote: Hi, On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 01:39:27PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2013-03-08 at

Re: [Linux-HA] Problem promoting Slave to Master

2013-03-15 Thread emmanuel segura
Hello Fedrik Why you have a clone of cl_exportfs_root and you have ext4 filesystem, and i think this order is not correct order o_drbd_before_nfs inf: ms_drbd_nfs:promote g_nfs:start order o_root_before_nfs inf: cl_exportfs_root g_nfs:start I think like that you try to start g_nfs twice

Re: [Linux-HA] RA heartbeat/exportfs hangs sporadically

2013-03-15 Thread Dejan Muhamedagic
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:44:37AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 16:28 +0100, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:53:55AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 14:15 +0100, Dejan Muhamedagic wrote: Hi, On Fri, Mar 08, 2013

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 3/14/2013 11:15 AM, Alberto Alonso wrote: That's what I thought. The emails from 2009 seemed to indicate that it was possible to run multiple instances. I've always had difficulties with the concept: the way I see it if your hardware fails you want *all* your 200+ services moved. If you

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2013-03-15T09:54:22, Dimitri Maziuk dmaz...@bmrb.wisc.edu wrote: I've always had difficulties with the concept: the way I see it if your hardware fails you want *all* your 200+ services moved. If you want them independently moved to different places, you're likely better off with a full

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 03/15/2013 10:08 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: You're contradicting yourself ;-) Pacemaker in fact gives you the management you suggest for the cloud use case - whether the services are handled natively or encapsulated into a VM. Yeah, I suppose. I meant going Open/CloudStack. (We get to

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Lars Marowsky-Bree
On 2013-03-15T11:43:56, Dimitri Maziuk dmaz...@bmrb.wisc.edu wrote: Yeah, I suppose. I meant going Open/CloudStack. (We get to write buzzword-compliant funding proposals, or I don't get to eat. So my perspective is skewed towards the hottest shiny du jour...) Yeah, I'd agree that today there

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 03/15/2013 11:55 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: ... Right. Thankfully, we already have that, it's called pacemaker ;-) Which brings me back to my original problem with the concept: I can think of only one reason to failover services (as opposed to hardware), and that is your daemons are

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread GGS (linux ha)
On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 11:43 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: On 03/15/2013 10:08 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: You're contradicting yourself ;-) Pacemaker in fact gives you the management you suggest for the cloud use case - whether the services are handled natively or encapsulated into a

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread GGS (linux ha)
On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 17:55 +0100, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: Yeah, I'd agree that today there are scenarios where a cloud makes more sense then a traditional HA environment. OpenStack et al still have to up their HA game a bit, though. You are being way too kind, a lot of improvement is

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread GGS (linux ha)
On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 12:32 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: On 03/15/2013 11:55 AM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: ... Right. Thankfully, we already have that, it's called pacemaker ;-) Which brings me back to my original problem with the concept: I can think of only one reason to failover

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 03/15/2013 12:59 PM, GGS (linux ha) wrote: Unfortunately I'm not at liberty to discuss the full architecture or what they are doing without written permission, which would make it clear why we are going the path we are. Yeah, I suspected something like that. Hopefully I won't ever need to

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread GGS (linux ha)
On Fri, 2013-03-15 at 13:08 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: On 03/15/2013 12:59 PM, GGS (linux ha) wrote: Unfortunately I'm not at liberty to discuss the full architecture or what they are doing without written permission, which would make it clear why we are going the path we are. Yeah,

Re: [Linux-HA] Multiple instances of heartbeat

2013-03-15 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On 03/15/2013 01:20 PM, GGS (linux ha) wrote: Virtualization has a huge penalty on performance, specially at the IO level. At another place we do Xen and KVM with up to 40 VMs/server and when there is any kind of IO (disk specially) going on things slow down to a crawl. I'm yet to find