Hello,
First I would like to say big thanks to the following bloggers, who mentioned
zvi dvir and his struggle;
Shachar Shemesh, Oren Maurer, Ori Idan, Doron Ofek.
You are great!
(Did I miss anyone ? Sorry if I missed anyone, these is what I saw in:
http://planet.linux.org.il/)
Yet I think it
I would be very wary of any law, which interferes with operation of
businesses. There can always be unforeseen consequences. One possible
consequence comes to one's mind:
Embedded system which is always sold with an operating system and
applications which allow its safe operation.
Then one has
Encourage (by getting people to demand it) providers to sell PCs with
Linux, in which a VM is installed and runs a MS-Windows XP image.
VM anyone can install. Asking VM installed with windows xp image will open
the door to charge extra charge for the image of XP. After all, if it's not
On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 14:31 +0200, sara fink wrote:
Encourage (by getting people to demand it) providers to sell
PCs with
Linux, in which a VM is installed and runs a MS-Windows XP
image.
VM anyone can install. Asking VM installed
Amichai Rotman wrote:
Zvi,
I salute you for the effort you took for the grater good!
Yashar Koach!
As for Israeli shops selling Laptops with pre-installed Linux - I
remember a guy at the last August Penguin (2008) selling said Laptops by
the staircase.
I can't remember the name but
Zvi,
- You are our Open Source hero of the week (or maybe of the year,
or maybe decade!).
Congratulations! I salute you!
- I hereby call to anyone who bought a laptop without operating
system on it or with only Linux on it
to tell his/her story in this mailing list. I also call every one
Dan Shimshoni wrote:
Zvi,
- You are our Open Source hero of the week (or maybe of the year,
or maybe decade!).
Personally, I think the importance of windows refund reach far beyond
the scope of using Linux without paying the Microsoft tax. I wrote
about it in my blog
2008/12/4 Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Another question, does anyone have experience with ordering a laptop
from a major manufacturer (Dell, Lenovo) over the Internet - from
Ireland or any other place - without an OS? Is it easier than buying
a laptop in Israel and going through a small
I am interested.
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All.
Sorry for the previous bad HTML email... I wrote to tell that Slashdot
[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/12/03/1949230.shtml] also got the story,
and
placed a link to the Haifux website.
I am
I was just slashdotted!
Zvi Devir wrote:
News Flash: The first
Windows
refund in Israel!
Check it up:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html
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Hi All.
Sorry for the previous bad HTML email... I wrote to tell that Slashdot
[http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/12/03/1949230.shtml] also got the story, and
placed a link to the Haifux website.
I am thinking of preparing a talk for Haifux about my fight sometime in the near
future, if there is
Bravo Zvi!
What was the reason not to go to court, though? I mean, I don't suppose
you needed the 550 so badly... :-)
Eyal
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Congratulations. You rock :)
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News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel!
Check it up: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:00, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel!
Check it up: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html
Eyal Rozenberg wrote:
Bravo Zvi!
What was the reason not to go to court, though? I mean, I don't suppose
you needed the 550 so badly... :-)
What is the reason to go to court? They agreed to giving him everything
he asked for, plus not require him to keep silent about it. It's not as
if
News Flash: The first Windows
refund in Israel!
Check it up:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html
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2008/12/5 Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Compared to that, Zvi's experience looks a) painful, and b) not
worthwhile except for the publicity and the precedent. I mean that the
You are the second poster I read on this thread (haven't read it all)
to talk about worthwhile and hassle.
I have
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Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just in case you missed it, it is the lead item on The Register,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/04/dell_windows_eula_israel/
(shall we expect a slashdot item soon, too? :). It is a reasonably
faithful
Oh, well, Dell
Israel are likely to say something like, Since you are not running
Windows your warranty is void, and then one would have to go through a
small claims court again, attaching the email exchange and the refund
confirmation to the suit...
I'd like to comment on this. I have a
Less than a year ago we bought a Dell laptop to my daughter in Petach
Tikva. We could buy it without any OS if we wanted to or with
Vista/XPPro for an additional fee.
Saba Moshe
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Zvi,
I salute you for the effort you took for the grater good!
Yashar Koach!
As for Israeli shops selling Laptops with pre-installed Linux - I remember a
guy at the last August Penguin (2008) selling said Laptops by the staircase.
I can't remember the name but I know he has a web site...
Can
That is not just a newsflash, that is a great achievement for you and
for all of us!
Well done!
Orna.
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel!
Check it up: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html
Zvi,
- First, congratulations for winning this important battle !
- Second, I myself intend to buy a laptop in the near future.
And indeed, after surfing many israeli websites, I found out that all
of them come with windows. I don't intend to use windows on my laptop.
So may I ask: How long
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Rafi Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zvi,
- First, congratulations for winning this important battle !
- Second, I myself intend to buy a laptop in the near future.
And indeed, after surfing many israeli websites, I found out that all
of them come with
Hello,
I had encountered before Asus Eee Pc with linux on some israeli
sites; this is indeed a mini laptop. Talking about laptops (not UMPCs
and not mini laptops) - I did not encounter any stores in israel which
sell a windows free laptops , meaning that you can purchase them
without Windows.
Hi Rafi,
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:51:54PM +0200, Rafi Gordon wrote:
I urge anyone that knows about such cases to inform us. I really doubt
there is even one
such store/vendor.
Here is one from Ivory/MSI:
http://ivory.co.il/product.asp?productid=2294CatCode=315
This page state that you can
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:12:19 +0200
Rafi Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zvi,
- First, congratulations for winning this important battle !
- Second, I myself intend to buy a laptop in the near future.
And indeed, after surfing many israeli websites, I found out that all
of them come
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:51:54 +0200
Rafi Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I had encountered before Asus Eee Pc with linux on some israeli
sites; this is indeed a mini laptop. Talking about laptops (not UMPCs
and not mini laptops) - I did not encounter any stores in israel which
sell a
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:00:14AM +0200, Zvi Devir wrote:
News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel!
Check it up: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html
Great news. Good to see that this is being made public.
Dell (Israel?) does seem to have a policy to provide its
That is fantastic!!!
Have you gave a notable statement yet? (one small step for man kinda
statement...)
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel!
Check it up: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html
Well done. Congratulations. Thanks for insisting for publicity as well. Now
it's time for party. ;-)
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Adir Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Congratulations. You rock :)
On 12/3/08, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
News Flash: The first Windows refund in
On Wednesday, 3 בDecember 2008, Zvi Devir wrote:
News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel!
Just read the news. This is a very big WOW and the PR was
also very good. Thanks for your time and effort.
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2008/12/3 Rafi Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Zvi,
- First, congratulations for winning this important battle !
- Second, I myself intend to buy a laptop in the near future.
And indeed, after surfing many israeli websites, I found out that all
of them come with windows. I don't intend to use
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