Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-23 Thread Markus Schulte
Matthew Clark wrote: Ummm... You should have an on-site expert for any OS if it's mission critical. And if it's not, you should probably still open a contract with one in case you need him/her. Yes - my point (made unclearly, I admit) is that finding a Linux Expert is no easy task.

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread dr. Eduard Werner (Edward Wornar)
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Dirk Lutzebaeck wrote: Niklas Paulsson writes: The lack of a journaling fs is also a major show stopper at our site, once we have a relaible journaling fs that works well together with sw (and hw) raid , we will begin thinking of a migration path to linux on our big

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Dirk, Depending on your application, you may want to consider getting _two_ linux boxes and setting up some form of clustered configuration. Solaris or Linux, if you're relying on just one box for a mission critical app - it's going to let you down sooner or later. Maintenance tasks are much

RE: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread Matthew Clark
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dirk Lutzebaeck Sent: 22 November 1999 10:09 To: dr. Eduard Werner (Edward Wornar) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash) dr. Eduard Werner (Edward Wornar) writes: I think the point is to a certain degree that *IF*

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread Bill Anderson
Niklas Paulsson wrote: Thomas Waldmann wrote: There is no problem with patching 2.2.11 or 2.2.12 or 2.2.13 with the 0824 patches - I (and many other people) verified the rejects and there is no real problem - the stuff rejected simply already IS in the standard kernel. This is also

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread rcarter
On 22 Nov, Matthew Clark wrote: Our local supplier will do fast turnaround (2 to 4 hours) Monday thru Sunday - no matter what Operating System we haveThe only problem we have with Linux is that you really need an on-site Linux expert to fix/patch any OS glitches/security problems..and an

RE: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread Jason Clifford
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Matthew Clark wrote: Ummm... You should have an on-site expert for any OS if it's mission critical. And if it's not, you should probably still open a contract with one in case you need him/her. Yes - my point (made unclearly, I admit) is that finding a Linux

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread John Burton
Jason Clifford wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Matthew Clark wrote: Ummm... You should have an on-site expert for any OS if it's mission critical. And if it's not, you should probably still open a contract with one in case you need him/her. Yes - my point (made unclearly, I admit)

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread Niklas Paulsson
John Burton wrote: Simple (in they eyes of the check writers :-), buy a *name* brand and it fails, its the name brand's problem and you chalk it up to experience. Buy a *noname* brand and it fails and its *your* problem because you accepted the risk of going with an unknown quantity - risk

RE: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
afternoon nightmare (raid crash) What does "buying Solaris/HP/NT" have anything to do with job security? If you can't do the job , doesn't matter what you buy, you'll still be a bad SysAdmin. Buying a Ferrari won't make you Formula 1 driving material, not saying Sol

RE: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-22 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
;suit" label but it also bullet-proofs pretty well against droid domination. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lauri Tischler Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 11:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: my sunday

my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Markus Schulte
hi, i just touched the RESET button of our fileserver and my weekend went away arghhh. ironically this happend during setting up a tape library for backups - which, of course is not finished. after resetting the server made an fschk on the disks which caused 2 of the 7 disks marked bad for the

RE: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
at once. The reset button is at least a bit harder to hit (ATX mid-towers on rack shelves). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Markus Schulte Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: my sunday afternoon nightmare

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Markus Schulte
hiya, you find me deeply impressed, agitated and really touched by the TREMENDOUS reaction on my former mail. first: the raid is back it is running in degraded mode now. but it's back. you all have been great: 10 minutes after my post the phone was ringing. a guy said my name is MARTIN BENE i

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Danilo Fiorenzano
99 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash) hi, i just touched the RESET button of our fileserver and my weekend went away arghhh. ironically this happend during setting up a tape library for backups - which, of course is not finished.

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Lauri Tischler
Markus Schulte wrote: you find me deeply impressed, agitated and really touched by the TREMENDOUS reaction on my former mail. first: the raid is back it is running in degraded mode now. but it's back. you all have been great: Good, you were lucky. Maybe you should think of going to

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Thomas Waldmann
Yeah, but this is Really Bad(tm). I mean, if sw-raid can't 200% reliably survive even a hard reset like that, what is the whole point of using it? Well, it saves you against disk failures ;-) I can't imagine what has happened in markus' case, but I tested SW RAID for disk failures and it

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Markus Schulte
to lauri, danilo and other doubters, Lauri Tischler wrote: Markus Schulte wrote: you find me deeply impressed, agitated and really touched by the TREMENDOUS reaction on my former mail. first: the raid is back it is running in degraded mode now. but it's back. you all have been

Re: my sunday afternoon nightmare (raid crash)

1999-11-21 Thread Niklas Paulsson
Thomas Waldmann wrote: There is no problem with patching 2.2.11 or 2.2.12 or 2.2.13 with the 0824 patches - I (and many other people) verified the rejects and there is no real problem - the stuff rejected simply already IS in the standard kernel. This is also the reason why there is no new