On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:16:01 +1200
Chris Bayley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The link is posted...
Thanks Chris, getting it now
John
The link is posted...
John Rye wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:15:49 +1300
> Chris Bayley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Ok...
>>
>> Both John's exposition on the nature of linux and the audio transcript
>> of the evening are now available via the clug wiki
>> http://clug.net.nz/index.p
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:15:49 +1300
Chris Bayley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok...
>
> Both John's exposition on the nature of linux and the audio transcript
> of the evening are now available via the clug wiki
> http://clug.net.nz/index.php/PreviousPresentations.
> the audio is in ogg and weighs
Now this SHOULD be sent to bradford She'd have a fit!!
but i like it. Just it another 5 years (maybe less and you'll not be able to
joke like that).
dave.
On Thursday 15 March 2007 16:15, Chris Bayley wrote:
> Ok...
>
> Both John's exposition on the nature of linux and the audio transcript
> o
On Thu, March 15, 2007 1:52 pm, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> On Thu 15 Mar 2007 10:50:33 NZDT +1300, Johnno wrote:
>
>> Or use ACC+ Format,
>
> Are good-quality open source coecs available for this?
>
> Volker
First of all I think Johnno is referring to aac+ not acc+.
Licensing for AAC is said to be
On Thu 15 Mar 2007 10:50:33 NZDT +1300, Johnno wrote:
> Or use ACC+ Format,
Are good-quality open source coecs available for this?
Volker
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:13, you wrote:
> Will yours do ogg?
No.
> What brand is yours?
Nokia.
Will yours do ogg?
What brand is yours?
Cheers Don
Andrew Errington wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:55, you wrote:
3gp format please.
Then it can be reviewed on any mobile phone.
Not mine, it can't.
A
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:55, you wrote:
> 3gp format please.
>
> Then it can be reviewed on any mobile phone.
Not mine, it can't.
A
3gp format please.
Then it can be reviewed on any mobile phone.
Cheers Don
Jim Cheetham wrote:
I have an audio transcript of the evening with which I should do
something - a pod cast or similar ? or just an mp3 ? what would be most
consumable by the masses ?
Well, an Ogg format would be idea
I didn't miss understand it.
Simon Travaglia publishes BOFH on a bugger off type of licence.
Cheers Don
John Carter wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, John Carter wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Rik Tindall wrote:
> John's html
John never mentioned the licensing of his presentation material,
which
Or use ACC+ Format, you still get the quality of an mp3 file, but file size
is very very smaller than an mp3.
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Cheetham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: LAST NIGHTS MEETING
> > I have
I have an audio transcript of the evening with which I should do
something - a pod cast or similar ? or just an mp3 ? what would be most
consumable by the masses ?
Well, an Ogg format would be ideal for our pursuit of Open Standards of course.
Failing that, an mp3 file (probably with a very low
> Explicitly, I'm _not_ telling anybody to bugroff. It's just that I
> once created another variant of OSS license that has achieved a small
> measure of 'net notoriety called the "Bugroff license".
Was it soon followed by tBugroff and nBugroff (or, dare I say it, gBugroff)?
=;^)
A
John Carter wrote:
Normally I would use my bugroff license. (Ask google)
Explicitly, I'm _not_ telling anybody to bugroff. It's just that I
once created another variant of OSS license that has achieved a small
measure of 'net notoriety called the "Bugroff license".
This just gets better and
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, John Carter wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Rik Tindall wrote:
> John's html
John never mentioned the licensing of his presentation material, which he'd
made for other use(s). Isn't it fair to leave him with the option of
whether it is 'free/open' or otherwise, rather than
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John Carter wrote:
> John's html
Let me be polite and politic in this particular instance and say
"Creative Commons License"
Normally I would use my bugroff license. (Ask google)
ROTFL :)
And another peal of applause for a fascinating, whimsical, and deeper
glimpse into not-unix. Well up
John handed out some pages of google triggers, mine was pinched (such
was the demand for John's wisdom! ) but he may be so kind as to post
them to the list ?
He also had a rather nice exposition on 'what is Linux' designed for
corporates which he promised to post to the CLUG wiki.
I have an audio t
about.
That's why I put my hand up.
My intention will be to put it in the wiki, on horse and hosted on my
site as well so that it's in 'more' places rather than less.
Dispite what John says about the issues of last nights meeting, there
was some fantastic content tha
Nick Rout wrote:
They should go on the wiki.
That point was discussed.
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In correct. It was more than implied.
Rik Tindall wrote:
> John's html
John never mentioned the licensing of his presentation material, which
he'd made for other use(s). Isn't it fair to leave him with the option
of whether it is 'free/open' or otherwise, rather than just assume..?
hth
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Rik Tindall wrote:
> John's html
John never mentioned the licensing of his presentation material, which he'd
made for other use(s). Isn't it fair to leave him with the option of whether
it is 'free/open' or otherwise, rather than just assume..?
Let me be polite and pol
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Don Gould wrote:
Nick Rout wrote:
I forgot the meeting was even on. Excuse my language, but BUGGER!
I will get John's html on line as fast as he sends it to me and I also took a
bunch of snaps of the white board as he was schooling us all on how memory
works under Linu
On 14/03/07, Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > John's html
John never mentioned the licensing of his presentation material, which
he'd made for other use(s). Isn't it fair to leave him with the option
of whether it is 'free/open' or otherwise, rather than just assume..?
Thanks for th
> John's html
John never mentioned the licensing of his presentation material, which
he'd made for other use(s). Isn't it fair to leave him with the option
of whether it is 'free/open' or otherwise, rather than just assume..?
hth
--
Rik
On 14/03/07, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will get John's html on line as fast as he sends it to me and I also
> took a bunch of snaps of the white board as he was schooling us all on
> how memory works under Linux.
They should go on the wiki.
Agreed. Let's keep it all in one place
On Wed, March 14, 2007 11:27 am, Don Gould wrote:
>
>
> Nick Rout wrote:
>> I forgot the meeting was even on. Excuse my language, but BUGGER!
>
> Yes it was your loss in a massive way.
>
> I can now say that I have a much better understanding of the way Linux
> programmers are thinking, to better
Nick Rout wrote:
I forgot the meeting was even on. Excuse my language, but BUGGER!
Yes it was your loss in a massive way.
I can now say that I have a much better understanding of the way Linux
programmers are thinking, to better understand the benefits.
I will get John's html on line as f
I forgot the meeting was even on. Excuse my language, but BUGGER!
On Wed, March 14, 2007 11:01 am, Don Gould wrote:
> Dear Mr Carter,
>
> CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
> CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
> CLAP CLAP CLAP
Dear Mr Carter,
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLA
Glad the workshop was useful. - For the workshops & me too. Thanks.
Don Gould wrote:
Don't know about the rest of you but I found Dale's presentation on BSD
very useful.
It highlighted a number of issues for me...
Wireless in the non-ms spear is simply not simple enough. The fact that
neith
Steve Holdoway wrote:
...is it logical to change the transmit power on a gigabit connection?
We're not talking about logic here. We're talking about conveniance.
Cheers Don
On Fri, 05 May 2006 13:15:17 +1200
Don Gould wrote:
> Don't know about the rest of you but I found Dale's presentation on BSD
> very useful.
>
> It highlighted a number of issues for me...
>
> Wireless in the non-ms spear is simply not simple enough. The fact that
> neither Nick or I could q
On Fri, 05 May 2006 13:15:17 +1200
Don Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> ipconfig. I am perplexed about why linux requires a whole new subset of
> tools just to configure a wifi card. Thou I'm sure that in later
> versions of linux we're going to see the iw range of tools integrated
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 13:15 +1200, Don Gould wrote:
> It was interesting to see the the BSD camp consider a wifi card nothing
> more than another ip device so it's completely integrated into
> ipconfig. I am perplexed about why linux requires a whole new subset of
> tools just to configure a wi
Don't know about the rest of you but I found Dale's presentation on BSD
very useful.
It highlighted a number of issues for me...
Wireless in the non-ms spear is simply not simple enough. The fact that
neither Nick or I could quickly connect to anything is an issue.
Regardless of OS it was c
--- Chris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "eth1"?
> Do you have 2 network cards in this machine? It
> should be "eth0" if there is
> just one card.
>
> --
> :D
>
Yes I have 2 cards - "eth0" is connected to a LAN, and
"eth1" the cable modem.
Tony
Send instant messages to your online fri
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:30:32 +1300
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> "eth1"?
> Do you have 2 network cards in this machine? It should be "eth0" if there is
> just one card.
there were two ethernet devices.
On Thursday 16 February 2006 17:53, Anthony Hart wrote:
> --- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:57:01 +1300 (NZDT)
> >
> > Anthony Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thanks to everyone who responded.
>
> I found an old xorg.conf file, copied everything as
> suggeste
--- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:57:01 +1300 (NZDT)
> Anthony Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who responded.
I found an old xorg.conf file, copied everything as
suggested and, in brief, X started when I rebooted.
The earliest old c
On Thursday 16 February 2006 10:30, Anthony Hart wrote:
> Please bear in mind, too, that with no Linux Internet
> connection it will be difficult for me to post
> diagnostics.
Another quick way to get under way which is sometimes very effective is to
boot your machine using one of the so-called l
--- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:57:01 +1300 (NZDT)
> Anthony Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > H
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who responded.
> > The original problem was that the boot process
> hung
> > unless the ethernet card was connected to the
> c
On Thu, February 16, 2006 7:31 am, Nick Rout wrote:
In the hope of making these suggestions more generic...
>
> The tea is a sound proposition, as is lying down. Kicking the computer
> has enormous theraputic value.
>
> 1st thing to do after that is try and get the X configuration restored.
> on t
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 11:57:01PM +1300, Anthony Hart wrote:
> The original problem was that the boot process hung
> unless the ethernet card was connected to the cable
> modem. Rik's opinion was that the system was waiting
> for the current time to be obtained from the Internet
> and Nick disab
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:57:01 +1300 (NZDT)
Anthony Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> H
>
> Thanks to everyone who responded. The experts do not
> seem to be entirely in agreement. I should explain
> that my knowledge of command line commands is sketchy
> at best. Here is what I propose t
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 23:57, Anthony Hart wrote:
> H
>
> Thanks to everyone who responded. The experts do not
> seem to be entirely in agreement. I should explain
> that my knowledge of command line commands is sketchy
> at best.
Turn up to the CLUG meeting on 14 March 19:30 sharp!
H
Thanks to everyone who responded. The experts do not
seem to be entirely in agreement. I should explain
that my knowledge of command line commands is sketchy
at best. Here is what I propose to do. I will have
a strong cup of tea and a lie down - but first try to
answer some of the que
Chris, and Don and anyone else who has f**ked with, or is tempted to
f**k with Tony's X configuration: THAT WAS NOT THE PROBLEM!!
Tony had a problem where his machine would boot to X dependent on
whether certain network cards had IP connectivity on boot.
If we plugged both cards into a dhcp serve
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 19:05, Rik Tindall wrote:
> > Still thinking M$ eh, Rik?
>
> NO. Time-use: quickest route to GO.
Absolutely _NOT_!
The quickest way to set up any Linux component is to just set it up, not to
re-install the whole shooting match.
In the case of the X server it is self
it up? I agree that it did seem to
run past everything ok then just fail on xstart up.
Cheers Don
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 16:43, Anthony Hart wrote:
> Do I have a lingering problem from last night for
> you?
>
> I brought my (mostly working) PC to last nights
> meeting but on a
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:05:29 +1300
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Holdoway wrote:
>
> > Still thinking M$ eh, Rik?
>
> NO. Time-use: quickest route to GO.
>
> - Based on viewing some of the work done last nite,
> + Tony's expressed desire to reinstall.
>
> hth, R
Sorry to globa
Steve Holdoway wrote:
Still thinking M$ eh, Rik?
NO. Time-use: quickest route to GO.
- Based on viewing some of the work done last nite,
+ Tony's expressed desire to reinstall.
hth, R
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:52:53 +1300
Rik Tindall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anthony Hart wrote:
> > Should I go for a full install?
>
> I'd say yes, after backing up any data to be kept.
>
> Ubuntu: we need someone to tell us how well it installs USB wireless
> keybrd & mouse gear; more LUG peo
Good summary, thanks Nick.
Nick Rout wrote:
2. An installfest, with an "expo" flavour, to be held in conjunction
with Software Freedom Day in September. Needs:
- sponsorship
- money
- publicity
- a co-ordinator !
More detail: Saturday 16 Sept. Zane will be holidaying in Europe, but
believes
someone else will be
able to confirm, i think it is called drakx.
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 16:43:44 +1300 (NZDT)
Anthony Hart wrote:
> Do I have a lingering problem from last night for
> you?
>
> I brought my (mostly working) PC to last nights
> meeting but on attempting to fire up Li
Anthony Hart wrote:
Should I go for a full install?
I'd say yes, after backing up any data to be kept.
Ubuntu: we need someone to tell us how well it installs USB wireless
keybrd & mouse gear; more LUG people probably know their way round this
than Mandriva, but u r a bit raw for Gentoo ;-)
Do I have a lingering problem from last night for
you?
I brought my (mostly working) PC to last nights
meeting but on attempting to fire up Linux this
morning X will no longer initialize. Startx now
gives the following messages:
Undefined Monitor "monitor" referenced by Screen
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 15:55, Nick Rout wrote:
> Thanks to Chris & Zane for the talks on LinuxConfAustraliaDunedin
>
> Good discussion about future events.
>
> Resolved (I think)
>
> 1. Have a half hour session on a beginners topic, eg a section from the
> LPI certification programme at each
Thanks to Chris & Zane for the talks on LinuxConfAustraliaDunedin
Good discussion about future events.
Resolved (I think)
1. Have a half hour session on a beginners topic, eg a section from the
LPI certification programme at each meeting - Chris S to present and
co-ordinate other presenters for
hould not hesitate to ask the list for help.
Robert
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:01 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Last nights meeting
How did it go? I'm sorry I could not be there.
Did we get a few boxes fixed?
stress that he should not hesitate to ask the list for help.
Robert
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:01 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Last nights meeting
How did it go? I'm sorry I could not be there.
Did we get a few boxes fixed?
-
From: Herb Petrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 10:52 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Last nights meeting
Thank you all for the great help I received on monday night.
The connection to my ISP is now much more consistent, and faster than it
has
opefully we did not confuse him too much.
We did stress that he should not hesitate to ask the list for help.
Robert
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:01 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Last nights meeting
How did it go? I'm sorry
Hi All
Thanks to all at the install-fest follow up..it was a big help to me getting
my machine running better.appreciate the input of all and special thanks to
Ross for his patience (first time I have seen sparks coming from plastic
teeth:) good turn out on such a miserable night
Bob Bernard
Run Knoppix and copy the XF config files from that. It should
detect/configure it just fine.
Cheers
Jason
Daniel Fone wrote:
One peice of bad news...
A guy called Ray wanted his machine upgraded to Mandrake 9.1. He had some
partion problems so we decided to reinstall from scratch. The install
Often if you search for the make and model of monitor on google
[groups|web] you will find the right modelines.
Or use the same as he used last time - you did backup XF86Config?
On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 01:04:18 + (GMT)
Daniel Fone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One peice of bad news...
>
> A guy
One peice of bad news...
A guy called Ray wanted his machine upgraded to Mandrake 9.1. He had some
partion problems so we decided to reinstall from scratch. The install was
fairly impressive, very little configuration was asked for which I didn't
like much (maybe I should have run in expert mod
Rick's son could not make it so Rick came to buy the CD's.
Regards, Robert
-Original Message-
From: Jason Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:23 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Last nights meeting
And Ricks son'
se him too much.
We did stress that he should not hesitate to ask the list for help.
Robert
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:01 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Last nights meeting
How did it go? I'm sorry I could not be there.
D
Nick wrote:
> How did it go? I'm sorry I could not be there.
>
> Did we get a few boxes fixed?
I fixed up some guy's XF86Config on his laptop. Unfortunately he only had
32MB of RAM, so RedHat 8.0 ran a bit slow for him. He is going to get some
more ram rather than go to a lightweight window ma
t for help.
Robert
-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 April 2003 11:01 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Last nights meeting
How did it go? I'm sorry I could not be there.
Did we get a few boxes fixed?
--
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
How did it go? I'm sorry I could not be there.
Did we get a few boxes fixed?
--
Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sounds like a fun evening...
Chris Hellyar wrote:
> Hi-ho,
>
> Many thanks to Carl, and all who turned up to the meeting.
>
> I was a little apprehensive (although too busy at the time to partake in the
> lively repartee) about a 'CLI' presentation, but I think most people would
> have got some
Hi-ho,
Many thanks to Carl, and all who turned up to the meeting.
I was a little apprehensive (although too busy at the time to partake in the
lively repartee) about a 'CLI' presentation, but I think most people would
have got something from the meeting (Coffee at least).
The idea of the 'Works
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