Away from this newsgroup

2003-02-05 Thread m.w.chang
Owning to un-precedential problem, I must un-subscribe from this newsgroup. See you guys later. I will read the general newsgroup from time to time. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.20 ^ ^5:48pm up 12 days, 10:53,

Re: shuttle disaster [OT]

2003-02-04 Thread m.w.chang
I recommend dismantling NASA until they can find a replacement for a guy like Wayne Ratiff... Not me, of course... :) Michael Scottaline wrote: > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:00:42 -0800 > Condon Thomas A KPWA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted: -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trus

Re: shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread m.w.chang
tell ya.. the shuttle was shot down by this thing: http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?BAN914203 it's all in one episode of the anime. :P dep wrote: > begin Bill Campbell's quote: > > | Sounds like typical government efficiency and coverups. > > pretty much, yeah. -- .~.Might, Co

shuttle disaster

2003-02-03 Thread m.w.chang
look at the faces of those scientists in NASA. That's what I called real experts. they knew a problem that couldn't be fixed and they didn't lie about it and keep trying. hmm.. hahaa... dam.. too cool... -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /(

Re: networking hardware

2003-02-02 Thread m.w.chang
computer, both hardware and software, is a life-and-death business. couldn't these guys in the world be a little bit serious? m.w.chang wrote: > I don't understand. why the BNC connectors I bought these days are so > loosed (compared to the ones I used back 15 years ago)? > &

Re: networking hardware

2003-02-02 Thread m.w.chang
yes, plastic is cheap to replace and easy to find and synthesis, but do you want a US$0.01 plug to mis-informated your whole battlion when a netowrk failure happens in the course of a fierce battle? silly m.w.chang wrote: > I don't understand. why the BNC connectors I bought these day

networking hardware

2003-02-02 Thread m.w.chang
I don't understand. why the BNC connectors I bought these days are so loosed (compared to the ones I used back 15 years ago)? Is making a circle at the right diameter so difficult?? dam The same problem can happen to 10BaseT if those plug manufacturers are not careful about the product qua

samba-2.2.7a

2003-02-02 Thread m.w.chang
i was trying to backup the MP3 off the linux server onto the Win$ partition and I got this: AngLAttack: the Network name is No Longer available. (AnglAttk is a MP3 song "Angel Attack") is it a networking hardware problem or samba config problem? -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We

Re: read-only mode linux

2003-02-02 Thread m.w.chang
ah.. a runlevel is the best. m.w.chang wrote: > is there a mod or patch or something that could make linux to stop ALL > applications from writing to the harddisk except on a specified set of > partitions? I meant, can linux kernel guaratee such a thing? > > Why? to ch

read-only mode linux

2003-02-02 Thread m.w.chang
is there a mod or patch or something that could make linux to stop ALL applications from writing to the harddisk except on a specified set of partitions? I meant, can linux kernel guaratee such a thing? Why? to check whether the application programs are not lying. :) -- .~.Might, Courage

Re: rpm --port?

2003-01-31 Thread m.w.chang
I came across a webpage that showed a message about that option. It just flashed across my eyes. I lost the link now.. forget it then. Jim Bonnet wrote: > m.w.chang wrote: >> >> what does it do? remote admin or just for downloading? > Im running rpm 3.0.6 and I sure don't

foxpro-like frontend for mysql backend

2003-01-31 Thread m.w.chang
anyone ever saw a mysql client that works almost like dbase or foxpro? -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.20 ^ ^5:02pm up 7 days, 10:07, 1 user, load average: 1.36, 1.58, 1.69

rpm --port?

2003-01-30 Thread m.w.chang
what does it do? remote admin or just for downloading? -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.20 ^ ^10:52am up 7 days, 3:57, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 0.99, 1.00 ___ Linux-us

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
I only heard that 32bit OS could not handles date arithematics after 2038... :) And as I understand it, going from 32 bits to 64 bits creates problems, and a OS developer has to start from the ground all over again? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
on the other hand, I am expecting a proven COL 3.1.1 workstaiton cdrom from the mailbox. I had one working copy, but its surface was scratched badly. All recent attempts to pull the same disk image off ftp.iso.caldera.com failed to produce a working cdrom. Maybe you should try downloading the

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
I don't know what redhat was doing at all, but compared my virgin experienemnt with redhat ahd col, redhat is a mess. for any newbies, backup is a must. the distribution. I understand you're speaking of your confidence level, not of the actual, realistic differences of the install process, howe

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
no. it's just a P3 on a Abit TUSLC-2 and CUBX with 384M RAM. I'm sorry to butt in, but I've never had a REDHAT installations heave like your mentioning here. Sounds like your installing on the latest and greatest Pentium 4, with the ia-32bit verision, or the CDROM your using is a dud. No. I wi

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
I had no problem with COL 3.1, 1.3 and 2.4 as well. Net Llama! wrote: I've never had a single problem installing Redhat 7.1, 7.2 or 7.3. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
that would be my plan. but not on my production harddisk.. I would not trust redhat's installqation process. What you might do is run another failed RH installation, then use Knoppix to boot up the machine and see what happened. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
I am sorry to say that Redhat's whole installation is less than trivial, esp if you compare it against the old Caldera product lines. Towards the end of the Redhat 8 installation process, it would suddenly complained about insufficient disk space or something, though I did allocate needed disk

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
yes, "WITH ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE". it's a typo.. I didn't double-check. why were you installing Caldera "WITHOUT ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE"? Don't you mean "with absolute confidence"? I'm not clear on your meaning of I didn't need to backup my data partition to install COL 3.1 I have no courage to do

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
i DON'T know what Jimbox was, but sugar could become a poison :) yup. i loved it as a kid -- getting up in the morning and having a big bowl of frosted jimbix and milk. i remember the commercials, something about "sugary and delicious." -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
I am very confused by the freaking partition setup screes offereed by Redhat. I could install Caldera COL 3.1 WITHOUT ABSOLUTE CONFIDENCE on my production harddisk WITHOUT backup. Redhat? .. go away... Net Llama! wrote: On 01/29/03 17:59, tom wrote: I would stay away from RH or Mandrake, since

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
and this root should be something like the Ark of Convenant, an sacret relic for linux. :) m.w.chang wrote: so if Mr. Trvoald is to define/set a root for the whole family of linux kernels, a root that's not rooted on Minix, what version of linux would he use? linux-0.1? can it really

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
so if Mr. Trvoald is to define/set a root for the whole family of linux kernels, a root that's not rooted on Minix, what version of linux would he use? linux-0.1? can it really boots, compiles and install the newer linux kernels? is this inheritence lost already as the kernel evolved? He used

Re: glibc upgrade from scratch

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
same convinience with Window$ or Linux. Yeah, it's the good old DOS, but your majesty and honour, everyghing was so freaking mutually independent and simple. That's what one should called a really low if not zero Total Cost of Ownership. m.w.chang wrote: maybe one should upgrade glibc via Knopp

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
"Computer Operating Systems", Andrew Tannebaum. haha... that's over 10 years ago for me. Already forgotten the name of the book that came with Minix. "The Minix Operating System"? Back then, we hacked the scheduling algorithm of an peusdo-OS called KMOS (written in Pascal) in a book by Mil

glibc upgrade from scratch

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
maybe one should upgrade glibc via Knoppix in a similar way. that surely should enable a clean upgrade. but... how could you get rpm to remove the old.glibc.rpm in an alternative root, checkinstall the new one into it? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpc

Re: linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
AH.. FORGOT ABOUT MINIX! I did read about Mr. Trovald's story and forgot about that piece. lost marks in linux history... :( and how did the guy crated minix? where is that very core bootdisk? shouldn't linuxfromscratch begin from that very first bootdisk? :) I think he meant, how do you create

Re: gcc-3.2.1

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
no go with htdig... still complaining about the libht. well... m.w.chang wrote: ok. gcc 3.2.1 built following gcc_notes. now going back to htdig-3.1.6 (which complained loudly about ostream...) -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http

Re: gcc-3.2.1

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
ok. gcc 3.2.1 built following gcc_notes. proftpd-1.2.8cvs built ok (now using it). now going back to htdig-3.1.6 (which complained loudly about ostream...) m.w.chang wrote: > seems that libstdc++-2.92 was NOT meant for gcc-2.95.3. > even caldera used libstdc++-2.10 only. what should be th

Re: gcc-2.95.3 and libstdc++-2.92

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
got the answer from news://news.linux.org.hk http://gcc.gnu.org/libstdc++/status.html The most recent version of this library that will build with GCC 2.95.2 is the ninth snapshot release, libstdc++-2.90.8.tar.gz. ok, I am and was not familiar with gcc stuffs... sorry. m.w.chang wrote: seems

linux from nothing

2003-01-29 Thread m.w.chang
We now got Knoppix and Gentoo that basically boot you into a working linux. how could you start building a system using instructions on linuxfromscratch if you don't even have any linux distribution? kind of like what Mr. Trovald got when he wrote linux-0.1. can one walk in his shoes? -- Swif

Re: gcc-2.95.3 and libstdc++-2.92

2003-01-28 Thread m.w.chang
seems that libstdc++-2.92 was NOT meant for gcc-2.95.3. even caldera used libstdc++-2.10 only. what should be the most updaetd version of libdstc++ for gcc-2.95.3 ? anyway, I am trying to build gcc-3.2.1 now ... m.w.chang wrote: btw, does gcc-3.2.1 have latest libdstdc++ bndled? from time to

Re: gcc-2.95.3 and libstdc++-2.92

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
on closer look, I noticed this error: checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... (cached) /usr/src/gccbuild/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/gccbuild/gcc/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -E updating cache ./config.cache ltconfig: unrecognized option `--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu' Try `ltconfig --help' for more i

Re: gcc-2.95.3 and libstdc++-2.92

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
btw, does gcc-3.2.1 have latest libdstdc++ bndled? from time to time, some packages (like htdig) insisted on usnig it. m.w.chang wrote: not my first time to ask this question. accordign to the doc in libstdc++, what I needed to do is: sr/lib. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux

gcc-2.95.3 and libstdc++-2.92

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
not my first time to ask this question. accordign to the doc in libstdc++, what I needed to do is: cd /usr/src tar xzvf /path/to/gcc-2.95.3.tar.gz cd /usr/src/gcc-2.95.3 tar xzvf /path/to/libdstdc++-2.92.tar.gz # take out the old ilbstdc++ that's bundled with gcc-2.95.3 mv libdstdc++ .. # load

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
write you back later tonight (HKT). Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, m.w.chang wrote: % thank you. that's my point. % % I would love someone to mail me his/her working cdrom via surface mail. % I could afford a few USD. Send me an address in private email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and

Re: stored procedures and db server security

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
so how does that sql server worm spread itself it not using the stored programs at the server? do yuo think stored procedures are actually a security hazard for database servers? you got to be kidding. stored procedures are api methods that sit on the database server. NOT a remote or local

stored procedures and db server security

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
do yuo think stored procedures are actually a security hazard for database servers? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org news://news.3dhome.net

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
ok, I got no money or the right political environment to hire you. anyway, this part of the thread was no longer related to my query on the integrity of the iso. Cut out this "your honor" BS. My full time job has nothing to do with knowing how to burn a CD. I was hired because i knew Linux, n

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
possible...but he didn't manage the ftp server. he merely gave the orders. I had to re-iterate the fact that I had never failed to boot a linux iso burnt under Window$, your majesty. I meant all, except this COL 3.1.1. Its probably Ransom Love's fault.. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~.

Re: apache mod_perl

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
anyway, the apache compile how-to is really a bit out of date, one can introduce some improvememnts to it from the notes of linuxfromscratch, notably: --enable-modules=all \ --enable-shared=max \ --with-server-gid=httpd \ --with-server-uid=httpd m.w.chang wrote: still failed. I installed from

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
You Honour, could we go back to the original topic? we were talking about the integrity on the COL 3.1.1. iso, not whether I used a window$ or linux to burn the image. ISO is the data format. you can question the compilance of Nero Burning ROM to the linux cdr-record, but you shouldn't shift the

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
thank you. that's my point. I would love someone to mail me his/her working cdrom via surface mail. I could afford a few USD. The point is that all of this discussion, other than helping Chang with his actual problem belongs on the General list. The CD burning software available on Windows and/

Re: Windows 2000 and linux on same box concurrently

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
install the linux boot loader onto the MBR. have it to boot linux and a Fat32 partition, when it boots to the FAT32 partitionk it would fire the WinNT loader there and from there you boot your Windows2000. > BASIC QUESTION: > Well, you get the idea. The basic question is what is the best way to m

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
of course not. Net Llama! wrote: > You verified the MD5SUM in windoze? >> but... execuse me, did they generate the md5sum from >> >> a. the authentic cdrom or >> b. the file on the server (which may have been corrupted) >> >> ? :) >> >> when did you guys download the iso? My first download (do

Re: stdc++ and caldera

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
btw, according to mysql root@server: scripts> cat compile.mysql #!/bin/sh # this is to avoid those libstdc++ error as suggested # by the README in mysql source tree. export CC=gcc export CXX=gcc is this a generic solution to all the libstdc++ problem I would be seeing in the future? m.w.ch

stdc++ and caldera

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
why why? why did she insist on using libstdc++??? [Mon Jan 27 17:26:34 2003] [notice] Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) mod_perl/1.27 mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.7 configured -- resuming normal operations [Mon Jan 27 17:26:34 2003] [notice] Accept mutex: sysvsem (Default: sysvsem) htsearch: error while loadin

Re: apache mod_perl

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
I restart the whole procedure from scratch. now things worked. there is no need to use the --with-perl option. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch

Re: apache mod_perl

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
still got the error. any help would be appreciated. m.w.chang wrote: sorry... sorry... the slash make clean make clean retrying... --with-perl=\usr\bin\perl -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news

Re: apache mod_perl

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
sorry... sorry... the slash make clean make clean retrying... --with-perl=\usr\bin\perl -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org news://news.3dho

apache mod_perl

2003-01-27 Thread m.w.chang
still failed. I installed from tarball perl-5.8.0. ** the compile script *** if [ $MODPERL -eq 1 ] ; then cd /usr/src/mod_perl* perl Makefile.PL \ EVERYTHING=1 \ APACHE_SRC=../apache_$APC/src \ USE_APACI=1 \ PREP_HTTPD=1 \ DO_HTTPD=1 make checkinstall fi ./configure \ -

Re: re-compiling apache

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
thank you.. next puzzle is mod_perl. after applying the mod_perl patch, compiling apache failed to buld the libperl.a ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
download (done months ago) was a good one. Bill Campbell wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 02:16:12PM +0800, m.w.chang wrote: that's really puzzling I pulled the image with wget. it pulled with binary mode, right? Probably. Did you pull the file with md5sums and check the ISOs against

Re: re-compiling apache

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
sorry. I failed to run the make clean last time. (don't know..) maybe a slip of fingers. --includedir=/usr/include/httpd \ <--- no use at all --localstatedir=/var/run \ ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http:/

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
that's really puzzling I pulled the image with wget. it pulled with binary mode, right? Bill Campbell wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 01:44:55PM +0800, m.w.chang wrote: the point is whether it's a standard iso file or a linux-specific iso file. Nothing Linux specific about it. I

Re: re-compiling apache

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
===> [include: Installing Apache C header files] cp ./src/include/*.h /usr/include/ cp ./src/lib/expat-lite/*.h /usr/include/xml/ cp ./src/os/unix/os.h /usr/include/ cp ./src/os/unix/os-inline.c /usr/include/ chmod 644 /usr/include/*.h /usr/include/xml/*.h here is the offending section. I configu

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
the point is whether it's a standard iso file or a linux-specific iso file. Why burn in wintendo? what the heck is wrong with: cdrecord -eject -v -data speed=XX dev=0,0 isoname.iso where XX= whatever the speed (writing) of your burner is. Its faster, cleaner and bug free. Why would you want

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
I paid $59.95 for COL 3.1 because of my respect for the original Caldera. I paid 0 for my OS, how did you pay? but yuo work full-time in linux and unix, I was working full-time in Foxpro and DOS. hwo could you apply your belief over me, your honour? I received no official UNIX or Linux train

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
yes, after I figured out the ide-scsi things.. later. I didn't say it was impossible. could someone burn it for me and mail me (in Hongkong) the cdrom over snail mail?? :) As for burning .iso's under linux it's as easy as : cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=4 somedumb.iso No big deal... If you hav

Re: re-compiling apache

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
I restored the ctype.h from the rpm via cpio. make install and then a rpm -e, .. boom... ctype.h was gone again. :) I agree. You can always do "make -n foo" to see what the installation will do without actually doing it. "-n" is a synonym for "--dry-run". Kurt

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
it's a P3. so it should be fine. I had no idea why the COL 3.1.1 refused to boot up, except a suspicious bad cd image The COL 3.1 worked fine (ok, that one costed me US$ 59.95) Are you sure that you have a compatible CPU? The Caldera server installations require a Pentium II or better while

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
for this, I had to disagree, your honour. It's freaking easy to burn a cdr under Window$, esp if yuo used Nero Burning Rom. It occured to me naturally. Once I figured out the hardware issues on linux, I would say it might be as easy to do it with command=line cdr burnign tools under linux. my

Re: re-compiling apache

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
x27;s the case. Kurt Wall wrote: Feigning erudition, m.w.chang wrote: % % I am learning to re-compile apache, and for milk's sake, % why would the installation script touched the /usr/include/ctype.h? % As a result, after I used checkinstall to make install, a subsequent % and rpm -e ap

Re: COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
w$' fault. Net Llama! wrote: On 01/26/03 19:01, m.w.chang wrote: I downloaded the ISO image again. this time, I ran md5sum on it. same as the website. I copied it to Windows 2000 That was your first mistake. ___ Linux-users mailing list [

COL 3.1.1 on ftp.iso.caldera.com [2]

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
I downloaded the ISO image again. this time, I ran md5sum on it. same as the website. I copied it to Windows 2000 and burnt it with cdrwin 5. No error in the burning prodcess but it still didn't installed (saying that COL cannot be installed on the machien. consult the .. brah...) My very first

re-compiling apache

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
I am learning to re-compile apache, and for milk's sake, why would the installation script touched the /usr/include/ctype.h? As a result, after I used checkinstall to make install, a subsequent and rpm -e apache would delete /usr/include/ctype.h. it's lucky that I used checkinstall, otherwise, I

the latest worm

2003-01-26 Thread m.w.chang
was it another DOS attack on the root dns server? There is quite delay when accessing American web-sites from Hong kong. -- .~.Might, Courage, Vision. In Linux We Trust. / v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org /( _ )\ Linux 2.4.20 ^ ^9:46pm up 2 days, 14:51, 1 user, load average: 1.00, 1.0

Re: writing simple business apps using mysql+perl+ncurse

2003-01-23 Thread m.w.chang
was the combination popular among the developers back then? now, we are all talking about java and php. curse? console-mode? everyone will be laughing at you. :) Net Llama! wrote: On 01/23/03 18:51, m.w.chang wrote: is it going to difficult? was it popular? can you be more vague

Re: writing simple business apps using mysql+perl+ncurse

2003-01-23 Thread m.w.chang
How long is a rope? ??? deadline? no deadline. just for fun. I always want to investigate the posibliity of replacing clipper 5 with perl+mysql+curse. Are you a competent perl programmer? no. I knew xBase (notably Clipper and Foxpro) from the bottom up. Have you ever done any curses program

writing simple business apps using mysql+perl+ncurse

2003-01-23 Thread m.w.chang
is it going to difficult? was it popular? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

vmware

2003-01-21 Thread m.w.chang
i don't understand. why didn't VMware emulate a NE2000 but an oddward AMD type of ethernet card. (the virtual LAN card after you fire up vmware). ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman

regex help

2003-01-20 Thread m.w.chang
what regex could exactly specify these patterns? 030118203923p 030119172924p 1mbtest.ptf 1kbtest.ptf here is my attempt (/etc/proftpd.conf) # Reject all files with leading periods or dashes PathDenyFilter "(^|/)[-.]" | \.ptf$ # to stop those numbered p directories PathDenyFilter (0|[1-9][0-

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread m.w.chang
same thing could happen to those fire fighters when the arial command center crashed... :) >> Renmber the movie "Blackhawk Down"? wonder whether they can use helicopters to plot ground troops' retreat given all the heat, wind and smoke... Yea, that's the movie where 2 copters crashed, and many

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-20 Thread m.w.chang
may be bombing (real explosives) is a faster solution. :) An American crew of a giant water bombing copter is on record as saying , they had never seen worse conditions and a bigger firestorm. The forcast for tonight and tomorrow is worse than it was on Saturday, we are all fingers crossed. Ke

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread m.w.chang
they might have beeen too fast, but ran in the wrong direction. even trained professionals might make a bad decions when trapped in the center of a hill/bush fire. remenmber the movie "Blackhawk Down"? wonder whether they can use helicopters to plot ground troops' retreat given all the heat, win

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread m.w.chang
and on the bright side, there will less fire for the next few years. :) are the 200 victims all fire fighters? Well we have 33% of the national capital burnt out and 400 homes gone, 200 serious burn victims. The hospital system in Canberra is overwhelmed, as is the emergency services. Similar

Re: Oz cops it again, fire!

2003-01-19 Thread m.w.chang
I guess it's time to mobilize those C130 for fire-fighting. The devastation we are seeing is the worst in living memory. I must admit that I am very gald to be in Queensland, but with the way the drought has provided fuel for fires we are not are not immune as 75% of the state is tinder dry.

Re: what's the point of /etc/cron.d?

2003-01-15 Thread m.w.chang
yes, you can. just like inet.d ronnie gauthier wrote: About all I can see there is like Llama said. You can keep things a bit more orderly. Also, crontab is a single file, you can throw as many files as you want into cron.d, I have not tried it but I think that you can probably throw a shell scri

Re: what's the point of /etc/cron.d?

2003-01-14 Thread m.w.chang
most distributions use xinetd not inetd ok, you still need the ping from inetd (netkit-base) On 01/14/03 18:54, m.w.chang wrote: what's the point with /etc/inet.d as well? :) I think only caldera openlinux used them That's a j

Re: what's the point of /etc/cron.d?

2003-01-14 Thread m.w.chang
what's the point with /etc/inet.d as well? :) I think only caldera openlinux used them Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I mean really.. I have /etc/cron.daily, cron.weekly, cron.monthly, and cron.hourly. so what's with cron.d? - -- ___

Re: midnight commander

2003-01-12 Thread m.w.chang
I knew that trick, too. but I want to do it via mc. bsides, what if the directory has multiple diectories like that? * could not guarantee the right choice. > cd /usr/ftp/*1*/*2* what options should I use to make MC to be able to handle these weird error from MC --- Warning: Couldn't chang

midnight commander

2003-01-12 Thread m.w.chang
what options should I use to make MC to be able to handle these weird directory names? I could delete them with F8, but I wanted to peek. :P error from MC --- Warning: Couldn't change to /usr/ftp/ .ÿ1ÿ / . ÿ 2 ÿ . -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. new

Re: updating openssh

2003-01-12 Thread m.w.chang
my flaw. no way to generate private key out of the public key. yes, I indeed didn't quite comprehend the maths involved in RSA. still looking for an easy and safe way to access the private key safely from my linux remotely... which sounds like a chicken-and-egg problem with security. m.w.

Re: I feel bad, but a great learning experience...

2003-01-12 Thread m.w.chang
5 DPT=68 1 DPT=8000 3 Jan m.w.chang wrote: > why would they open ports 137-139? puzzling... -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /( _ )\ http://www.linuxfrom

Re: updating openssh

2003-01-12 Thread m.w.chang
let me try to publish the public key instead. I forgot whether puttygen.exe could produce the private key from the public key. I need to use the private key to connect to my linux's openssh. I could buy a cheap 64M USB storage to keep my own key. but it would be nice to put it inside my mobile

Re: updating openssh

2003-01-12 Thread m.w.chang
you need a passord to use the private key... hmm...I thought you guys were talking about hacking the password out of the private key. that's dictionary hack, I believe, which may be easier. Net Llama! wrote: > THe key length is irrelevant if you're sending your private key over the > wire. Nothi

Re: I feel bad, but a great learning experience...

2003-01-12 Thread m.w.chang
why would they open ports 137-139? puzzling... I logged many connection attempts to these 3 ports (and the SQL Server ports as well) with my iptables. > studies and prevention. The bottom line is; they had netbios going over the > firewall... > Anyways, if you have the interest and your usenet has

Re: [suggestion] db.html

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
I am hitting the atexit() problem reported by Tim Wunder months ago finally. :) however, I haven't patched the makefiles according to the glibc notes. Net Llama! wrote: > glibc is documented on the SxS, and is quite simple to build. -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. new

Re: COL Workstation 3.1.1

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
I hope it's just a BIOS seting problem, not some tricks on the part of SCO. hmm... the 3.1.1. installed on the i440BX baord, but not this newer i815ep board. really puzzling... > I've loaded a bunch of 3.1.1 WS systems, both from bought CDs, and from > ones I've burned from ISO images (usually bur

Re: knowledge base sotware

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
a replacement frontend for linux-sxs? how about a bulletin board system? Net Llama! wrote: > Can anyone recommend knowledge base software? I'm looking for something > web based that stores articles of commonly found problems in categories > that are all indexed so that you can easily search thr

Re: COL Workstation 3.1.1

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
I couldn't reach that stage. it died right after detection of installation source. I did it make it through on the old i440BX motherboard. hmm. Rick Sivernell wrote: > Well, I have never gotten a good clean install on eW or eS 3.1.1. with > kde there is a either a bad library r it is missing,

Re: updating openssh

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
whenever I change the key, I emailed my yahoo account the new private key. putty can be downloaded from anywhere. Another approach is to the web server. I don't carry any USB storage device. I prefer to get everything from the net, including my private key. :) >> the only hussles is the key. I ha

Re: LAN*Assist on linux?

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
chatting only? can you actually place words into the command line of the remtoe host from your machine? it's like an interactive linux session. Net Llama! wrote: > [y]talk -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org new

Re: [gentoo] installation

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
here Code listing 9.2: Getting ready for GRP # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/GRP # mount -o bind /mnt/cdrom/gentoo/packages /mnt/gentoo/GRP hmm... maybe I need to read something on the anotomy of the gentoo distribution. I possibly missed a few pages in the user guide. > I do not know what GRP is. In what

Re: [gentoo] the new xfs fs support

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
problem solved. m.w.chang wrote: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml > > am I reading the wrong one? -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.org/ v \ http://www.linux-sxs.org news://news.linux.org.hk /(

Re: [gentoo] the new xfs fs support

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml am I reading the wrong one? > Their online 1.4-rc2 installation guide & the 1.4 guide I downloaded & > printed in October both say to use > mkfs.xfs /dev/hdxx. > -- Swiftly. Silently. Invisibly. .~. In Linux We Trust. news://news.hkpcug.o

Re: COL Workstation 3.1.1

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
I had no problem with the COL 3.1 cd I bought. For the same machine, the 3.1.1. image (burnt with Nero) aborted after finding the installation source. It's an Asus TUSL2-C motherboard. Strange... > I have to suspect that something else is wrong. I've installed > quite a few 3.1.1 WS systems with

[gentoo] installation

2003-01-08 Thread m.w.chang
glancing the installation guide: 1. must the internet be accessible when installing gentoo? 2. what are "Portage Tree" and "GRP"? 3. where does the `emerge` command get her source files? the cdrom? 4. can I use my own kernel source (say a direct download from kernel.org plus xfs patch for 2.4.2

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