I've been told that a problem arises when you put a CD and HD on the same
IDE bus. It seems that the CD uses 16 bit data transfer, and limits the bus
to that. Even though the (newer) HDs use 32 bit they are limited by having
the CD on the same bus.
Leon A. Goldstein mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
makes sense.
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:18:52 -0800 - Condon Thomas A KPWA
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Re: RE: CD burner write speed and cdrecord
I've been told that a problem arises when you put a CD and HD on the
same IDE bus. It seems that the CD uses 16 bit data transfer, and
limits
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Collins wrote:
Anyway, the only reason I replied is to p---off the prima donas who
only speak SCSI.
huh??
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Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:57:24 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are right. On the package it says: 1X to 32X.
I guess that explains my top speed of 32.
It also depends on where the CD will be read. A CD written at a fast speed
on one burner may be read ok there, but not on
On Thursday 05 December 2002 01:53 pm, Brett I. Holcomb espoused:
I got so I used SCSI for my workstations. It was worth the extra cost to
get the performance and ease of use.
I have never had any better performance from scsi burners than from ide, as
for ease of use they are no different.
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On Thursday 05 December 2002 01:06 pm, Brett I. Holcomb espoused:
Just for the record,
Ahh.. The pain has stopped. It only took two short evenings to get this
working under linux. The scsi stuff is a pain. Knowing how to use modules
is a must. If I hadn't had to install a zip drive
On Thursday 05 December 2002 06:09 pm, Roger Oberholtzer espoused:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:57:24 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are right. On the package it says: 1X to 32X.
I guess that explains my top speed of 32.
It also depends on where the CD will be read. A CD
Joel Hammer wrote:
The men in the computer store (BestBuy, CompuUSA), smile and shake their
heads each time I ask about scsi cdrom's. Do they exist?
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=192934
It's an HP 8X Write, 4X ReWrite, 32X Read Internal SCSI-2 CD-RW drive
for PCs for
Joel Hammer wrote:
The men in the computer store (BestBuy, CompuUSA), smile and shake their
heads each time I ask about scsi cdrom's. Do they exist?
They ain't men... they are weenies... MicroSoft slugs that never ventured any
farther than dos, windows, IDE and USB. And they ONLY sell
Ease of use as in install and administer the devices - put it in, connect
to a SCSI adapter and you're done. No messing with IRQs, etc., you can
have more than four devices on the SCSI bus.
As for performance the SCSI ones probably (but I haven't bench marked it so
won't argure this one G.)
I know lots of the problems with IDE burning is the CD and HD being on
the same ribbon, as well as in direct CD2CD with the CDburner and
CDreader on the same ribbon.
On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:56:05 -0500 - Brett I. Holcomb
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Re: Re: CD burner write speed
Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
I know lots of the problems with IDE burning is the CD and HD being on
the same ribbon, as well as in direct CD2CD with the CDburner and
CDreader on the same ribbon.
That is the problem with IDE burners. For on-the-fly burning at high
speed the CDROM and CD-RW must be
On Thu, 05 Dec 2002 22:04:56 -0500 Leon A. Goldstein
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
I know lots of the problems with IDE burning is the CD and HD
being on the same ribbon, as well as in direct CD2CD with the
CDburner and CDreader on the same ribbon.
That is the
I am getting set to finally burn some cd's. I have a 48 speed CD-R
drive. I have only a vague idea what that means.
Here is a section of the man cdrecord regarding speed of writing:
==man cdrecord on speed
speed = # Set the speed factor of the writing process to #. # is an
integer,
I think you'll find that the 48 is the speed at which it reads. The unit
writes at a slower speed - how slow depends on the unit itself (the bus
it's on like IDE, SCSI, and how well made it is and the computer. Usually
the write speed is lower like 1,2,8,12x.
What is important is a speed at
Just for the record,
The Sony 48x CR-R, 24x CR-RW, 48x CD-ROM (CRX215E1) works just fine in
linux, at least with CD-R data and CD-ROM. I used the latest cdrtools
(cdrecord, version 1.8 and mkisofs version 1.12.) It writes a cd (580
mbytes) in about 220 seconds or less with speed set to 40 and
Additionally the media you're burning to has a speed rating.
On 12/04/02 18:06, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
I think you'll find that the 48 is the speed at which it reads. The unit
writes at a slower speed - how slow depends on the unit itself (the bus
it's on like IDE, SCSI, and how well made it
You are right. On the package it says: 1X to 32X.
I guess that explains my top speed of 32.
Joel
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:39:54PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote:
Additionally the media you're burning to has a speed rating.
setting the speed parameter. If I understand this this means I can set
Just for the record,
Ahh.. The pain has stopped. It only took two short evenings to get this
working under linux. The scsi stuff is a pain. Knowing how to use modules
is a must. If I hadn't had to install a zip drive last year, another scsi
pretender, I would have been a lot longer
The men in the computer store (BestBuy, CompuUSA), smile and shake their
heads each time I ask about scsi cdrom's. Do they exist?
Joel
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:06:11PM -0500, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Just for the record,
Ahh.. The pain has stopped. It only took two short evenings
On Thursday 05 December 2002 03:15 am, Joel Hammer wrote:
The men in the computer store (BestBuy, CompuUSA), smile and shake their
heads each time I ask about scsi cdrom's. Do they exist?
No, the men in CompUSA and BestBuy do not exist. Of course SCSI CDROM's
exist. I just can't afford a
Of course they exist, but BestBuy CompUSA isn't where you go to find a
decent selection of quality hardware.
On 12/04/02 19:15, Joel Hammer wrote:
The men in the computer store (BestBuy, CompuUSA), smile and shake their
heads each time I ask about scsi cdrom's. Do they exist?
Joel
On Wed, Dec
Yes, they do - check out Plextor for one, most others make them. I buy
them for performance. However, morons such as work at BestBuy and CompUSA
can't be expected to know about them. The only reason they IDE is they've
seen it on enough boxes for it to sink into their little brains. If you
Indeed. SCSI hardware is traditionally used in servers. People don't
purchase components for servers at BestBuy. Look on pricewatch.com or
pricegrabber.com for good prices on namebrand components.
On 12/04/02 19:24, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
Yes, they do - check out Plextor for one, most
I got so I used SCSI for my workstations. It was worth the extra cost to
get the performance and ease of use.
Indeed. SCSI hardware is traditionally used in servers. People don't
purchase components for servers at BestBuy. Look on pricewatch.com or
pricegrabber.com for good prices on
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:39:54PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote:
Additionally the media you're burning to has a speed rating.
Great point -- I've created more than a few coasters at work
because I neglected to heed the speed rating of the blanks...
Kurt
--
Minnie Mouse is a slow maze learner.
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 10:15:35PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
The men in the computer store (BestBuy, CompuUSA), smile and shake their
heads each time I ask about scsi cdrom's. Do they exist?
The guys at BestBuy and CompUSA are idiots. SCSI CD-ROMs better exist,
or a lot of workstations at my
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 07:21:24PM -0800, Net Llama! wrote:
Of course they exist, but BestBuy CompUSA isn't where you go to find a
decent selection of quality hardware.
Or a decent selection of knowledgeable sales personnel. ;-)
Kurt
--
Ah say, son, you're about as sharp as a bowlin' ball.
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 20:15, Joel Hammer wrote:
The men in the computer store (BestBuy, CompuUSA), smile and shake their
heads each time I ask about scsi cdrom's. Do they exist?
Joel
Plextor definitely has the best reputation, their latest scsi cdrw being
a 12/10/32 or something like that
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