Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-27 Thread Myles Green
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:47:39 -0500 Joshua Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 25 January 2002 12:09 am, Myles Green wrote: > > Must be a problem with GDM (you did say that was what you were > > using, correct?) because I use KDM when using RL5 and haven't had > > any problems. Is there a q

no printing from kmail

2002-01-27 Thread Keith Antoine
I had problems with printing from kmail with lpr and wierd printer names in the print window. I therefore killed the std bsd printing spooler and installed CUPS. I was able to print from a saved html page in $HOME but kmail does not print still. No messages or anything and the same selections a

Re: interest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:46, Keith Antoine wrote: > I do nopt look bad in a pair of thongs! Liar. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: interest in an annual SxS get-together?

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:38, burns wrote: > Yes. Keef had polished his crystal balls, tuned up his magic wand and I had > gotten new dentures for the occaision (I hate borrowing Mike's). Hmmph, you never complain at the time, do you. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

background splash-screen, RH72 was Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:21, Myles Green wrote: > OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. In Ok, wizards. Since this is still all fresh in your mind, i have an annoying problem with the KDE user login screen (RH72) I've set the background to something I want and it f

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:34, Net Llama wrote: > Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in all of > Linux. I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked up, > fubarred or othewise rendered useless. The part of kudzu I am impressed with is it's auto-detection of

Re: length of command-line

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 03:46, Tom Wilson wrote: > > 2048 characters, but this can be configured. I'm not sure where. > > Where can you find this info? (Not about configing but about the length?) Bedtime reading->Bash-> (and of course, man bash) (not stated in either, is this limit is known as the

Re: no printing from kmail

2002-01-27 Thread Ted Ozolins
On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:43 am, Keith Antoine wrote: > I had problems with printing from kmail with lpr and wierd printer names in > the print window. I therefore killed the std bsd printing spooler and > installed CUPS. I was able to print from a saved html page in $HOME but > kmail does not

Re: Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-27 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:24:11 -0600 Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different > distros? > > I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to > share it with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). A

Passwords: How are they stored?

2002-01-27 Thread Joel Hammer
I had thought that passwords were not stored on your computer, simply the hash'ed password. Yet, when I try to change my password, I get told my new password isn't acceptable because it it too similar to the old one, or just involves a change in case. Any insight appreciated, Joel __

Re: Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-27 Thread Ian Marchak
Quoting Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What are the problems to overcome in sharing /home among different > distros? > > I have /home as a separate partition on Caldera 3.1 and I'd like to > share it > with Desktop/LX (aka Redmond Linux). And maybe Mandrake and Elx > eventually. > They al

Intel compiler

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
Here's a link to a review of a new 'closed source' compiler from intel. Anyone heard of this? Impressive improvements over ms visual c++ and gnu 2.95. They talk of 30% speed improvement. http://www.open-mag.com/754088105111.htm -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

Re: Passwords: How are they stored?

2002-01-27 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Sunday 27 January 2002 9:09 am, Joel Hammer wrote: > I had thought that passwords were not stored on your computer, simply the > hash'ed password. > Yet, when I try to change my password, I get told my new password isn't > acceptable because it it too similar to the old one, or just involves a

Re: Intel compiler

2002-01-27 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 07:04:30 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a link to a review of a new 'closed source' compiler from intel. > Anyone heard of this? Impressive improvements over ms visual c++ and gnu > 2.95. They talk of 30% speed improvement. > > http://www.open-mag.co

Re: background splash-screen, RH72 was Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-27 Thread Myles Green
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:43:12 +1130 Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:21, Myles Green wrote: > > > OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. > > In > > Ok, wizards. Since this is still all fresh in your mind, i have an > annoying problem w

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Net Llama
--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:34, Net Llama wrote: > > > Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in > all of > > Linux. I've stopped counting the number of boxes that its locked > up, > > fubarred or othewise rendered useless. > > The

Re: background splash-screen, RH72 was Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-27 Thread Net Llama
--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 10:21, Myles Green wrote: > > > OK, this was pretty simple actually, /etc/X11/prefdm points the way. > In > > Ok, wizards. Since this is still all fresh in your mind, i have an > annoying > problem with the KDE user login screen (

Re: Intel compiler

2002-01-27 Thread Net Llama
--- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 > is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being > exploited by this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if its' > worth the salt. The curious thing is...

Re: Passwords: How are they stored?

2002-01-27 Thread Joel Hammer
I thought that for security reasons, the actual password is never stored on the computer, just the encrypted form. If so, how can the computer know that I have tried to "cheat" and when asked to alter my password, I just changed the case of one letter. Joel On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 10:45:31AM -05

test

2002-01-27 Thread Ian Marchak
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Re: Passwords: How are they stored?

2002-01-27 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Sunday 27 January 2002 12:20 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > I thought that for security reasons, the actual password is never stored on > the computer, just the encrypted form. If so, how can the computer know > that I have tried to "cheat" and when asked to alter my password, I just > changed the ca

Re: test

2002-01-27 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Sunday 27 January 2002 14:11 pm, Ian Marchak wrote: > (see subject) PENALTY FLAG (no attached humor) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 01/27/02 14:24 + +

Re: Sharing /home Among Distros?

2002-01-27 Thread Michael Hipp
On Sunday 27 January 2002 08:57, you wrote: > Quoting Michael Hipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just curious, but I've been seeing double posts from you when you ask a > qustion, sent minutes apart. Are you doing this intentionally or is > something awry with either the list or your mail server? It w

Re: Passwords: How are they stored?

2002-01-27 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:20:25 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > I thought that for security reasons, the actual password is never stored > on the computer, just the encrypted form. If so, how can the computer > know that I have tried to "cheat" and when asked to al

Re: Passwords: How are they stored?

2002-01-27 Thread Joel Hammer
Hmmm... Hmmm.. Yes. Now that you mention it. I wonder why I didn't think of that myself? Thanks, Joel On Sun, Jan 27, 2002 at 02:24:02PM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote: > On Sunday 27 January 2002 12:20 pm, Joel Hammer wrote: > > I thought that for security reasons, the actual password is neve

Re: no printing from kmail

2002-01-27 Thread Keith Antoine
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:32,Ted Ozolins scribed: > On Sunday 27 January 2002 01:43 am, Keith Antoine wrote: > > I had problems with printing from kmail with lpr and wierd printer names > > in the print window. I therefore killed the std bsd printing spooler and > > installed CUPS. I was able to prin

Re: Passwords: How are they stored?

2002-01-27 Thread David A. Bandel
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:03:46 -0500 Joel Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the bitstream: > Hmmm... > Hmmm.. > Yes. Now that you mention it. > I wonder why I didn't think of that myself? Umm. Depends on the distro, but this is configurable. You can force users to put in their old pass

Re: Intel compiler

2002-01-27 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 08:41:15 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 > > is properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being > > exploited by this compiler

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 08:36:09 -0800 (PST) Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:34, Net Llama wrote: > > > > > Oh gawd no. Kudzu is the biggest flaming POS i've come across in > > all of Linux. I've stopped counting the numb

Re: AMR Modems

2002-01-27 Thread Dave Anselmi
Mike Andrew wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:36, Dave Anselmi wrote: > > > In any case, I have a PCI internal modem. > > which, unusually, is a real modem. > > IWould you minding checking the SxS on this and let me know if the details > for real, pci based, modems are correct? Just getting to thi

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:41:08 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unless I miss my guess, Llllama, kudzu isn't designed for guys like you > .. I disabled it on my elx distro, because I didn't plan to > change any hardware, but it was certainly harmless when I had it enabled.

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:11:34 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:41:08 -0700 > Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Unless I miss my guess, Llllama, kudzu isn't designed for guys like > > you.. I disabled it on my elx distro, because I didn't

ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Glenn Williams
Hi, Group: I have looked in all the familiar sources of info, and have come up empty. I have a binary file in .iso image format. What do I need to do to install it? The file is in my download directory, but I want to burn a CD and install it from that. I did this some time back, but my memory

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Ted Ozolins
On Sunday 27 January 2002 05:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:11:34 -0800 > > Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:41:08 -0700 > > > > Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Unless I miss my guess, Llllama, kudzu isn't designed for guys lik

Re: ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:54:06 -0700 "Glenn Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Group: > > I have looked in all the familiar sources of info, and have come up > empty. I have a binary file in .iso image format. What do I need to do > to install it? > > The file is in my download director

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:27:09 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > kde is a pig to start on any distro, but a little > better on FreeBSD. kudzu took about 30-40 seconds that I considered > wasted effort, so I disabled it. I'm an xfce biggot, too. oops, are we talking freebsd? I'm

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 17:56:47 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Collins that problem of waiting for a directory to list (KDE) is the very > reason why I dumped Elx RC1 and RC2. I found the whole distro too > Microsoftish. I didn't like what they did with Webmin (in my opinion > c

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:21:53 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So I'm open to another choice. I'd been using libranet, but > their new release took too long. (And debian is too easy! ;-) Oh, and the networking doesn't quite work here, maybe since I use dhcp for my huge 2 computer netw

Re: no printing from kmail

2002-01-27 Thread Leon A. Goldstein
Keith Antoine lamented: >I have had problems with Suse and printing, unfortunately your hint didn't >work either. Try turboprint. Use it with the "Generic UNIX LPD print system" http://www.turboprint.de/ Turboprint will add tp0. Use this printer for kmail and other KDE apps. Turboprint solved m

Re: ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Glenn Williams
Hi: I forgot to mention in my recent post, that I checked the iso file against the published md5 checksum using md5sum, and it matches okay. Regards, Glenn Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 _

Re: ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:04:51 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:54:06 -0700 > "Glenn Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, Group: > > > > I have looked in all the familiar sources of info, and have come up > > empty. I have a binary file in .iso image

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:08:09 -0800 Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:27:09 -0700 > Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > kde is a pig to start on any distro, but a little > > better on FreeBSD. kudzu took about 30-40 seconds that I considered > > wasted ef

Re: ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 20:33:29 -0600 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:04:51 -0800 > Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:54:06 -0700 > > "Glenn Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, Group: > > > > > > I have looked in a

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Ted Ozolins
On Sunday 27 January 2002 06:28 pm, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:21:53 -0800 > Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I'm open to another choice. I'd been using libranet, but > > > their new release took too long. (And debian is too easy! ;-) > > Oh, and the networking doesn't

Re: ISO image files

2002-01-27 Thread Dave Anselmi
Ken Moffat wrote: [...] > The command I use to burn a cd from an iso image is: > cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data filename.iso > Of course you need to be root, and use the proper device, determined by > 'cdrecord -scanbus', and set your preferred speed and the appropriate > filename. Works f

xfree-4.2+

2002-01-27 Thread dep
greetings. the crosspost is because this will perhaps be of interest to everybody. a couple hours ago i did a cvs harvest from xfree, it having been noted that the release 4.2 had a couple of fairly gruesome bugs which have since been fixed. previously, building xfree with support for freetyp

Re: Modems

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:45, zohar wrote: > I want to know how to distinguish between [snippety hack] > system) and AT commands of it to use for that. There's the rub. Winmodems of any kind CANNOT respond to AT commands. They don't have an embedded controller (or any other controller) in them to

Re: background splash-screen, RH72 was Re: another xfree 4.2.0 gotcha

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 04:08, Net Llama wrote: > Where did you change it? My guess is that whatevr you did was just a > hack that gets called before the actual 'official' call to display a > logog. Thus its getting squashed in the general order of things. Big Green Button -> stuff I've chased dow

Re: Intel compiler

2002-01-27 Thread Mike Andrew
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 03:33, Jerry McBride wrote: > My take on the whole affair is that Intel is making sure it's new P4 is > properly supported... in that its' new optimizaions are being exploited by > this compiler. That said... I'll find out shortly if its' worth the salt. > The curious thing is

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:51:18 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One other respondent on this thread (I lost the post) stated that ELX > overwrote his MBR. I selected the don't do anything option (there were > three choices), and ELX definitely did not write to the MBR. That wa

Re: Intel compiler

2002-01-27 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:29:52 +1130 Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My guess is, Intel will do very well indeed. > Another one to keep in mind is Borland, with the kylix thing being updated to c++. Shouldn't be too long, and I've used C++Builder on Windows with great pleasure. -- K