Jay,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jay Fenello writes:
We are currently collecting signatures from individuals,
companies and organizations that support this approach, and
who would like to be included in the original submission to
ICANN. To be included, please send me an email by 9:00
Once again Don Heath committs ISOC to the WRONG side, and does so by the
context of Semich's letter inviolation of ISOC rules. Don Heath's contract
is yearly according to Vint. I would hope that the patience of ISOC
trustees is wearing thin with his performance. I understand his yearly
Ellen,
Please, under *NO CIRCUMSTANCES* take down the five drafts of the
comparative Web Page.
If it is at all possible put up the Paris Draft there.
In particular should the DNSO.ORG draft (MTY) and Kent's Draft
(INTA/Wash) remain, so that there easy reference can be made to them
to explain
'jeff Williams' writes:
We at INEGroup would like to second Jays concern
and complaint as well...
No-one here represents anyone but themselves. There are no
participants who can speak on behalf of anyone but their own
opinions, delusions, illusions, conceptions and misconceptions.
Our
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Esther Dyson makes a living based on her association with some of these
organizations. She sells newsletters
Einar Stefferud writes:
I propose that we, as a community, make [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailign
list our list of record and tell ICANN that we have decided this
question for them and that we expect ICANN to abide by our community
decision.
Ironic that Mr. Stefferud sends this article only to
Hello Eberhard;-)...
I believe that we can submit a revised list of Parus Draft supporters
on Sunday, as the deadline for submission was at midnight tonight, US
PST, which is a few minutes from now;-)...
I see very little likelyhood that anyone would be upset if we submit a
revised and
I stongly agree that you should keep all drafts for the historical
record to prevent further rewriting of DNSO history!
Cheers...\Stef
From your message Sat, 06 Feb 1999 08:37:59 +0200:
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May I respectfully suggest that Ellen add a section to her Grey Ribbon
pages for "Objectors" and place messages such as Kent's on that page
for public viewing. After all, he posted it to a public list so it is
now in the public domain, and he surely wishes that his position be
widely known.
Einar Stefferud wrote:
I stongly agree that you should keep all drafts for the historical
record to prevent further rewriting of DNSO history!
I'm pleased that you find these comparisons so useful.
The two proposals that have been submitted to ICANN (DNSO.ORG of 2/5 and
Paris Draft of 2/4) are
In message v01540b01b2e1b8301121@[204.188.254.67], Ellen Rony writes:
The two proposals that have been submitted to ICANN (DNSO.ORG of 2/5 and
Paris Draft of 2/4) are now posted at www.domainhandbook.com/comp-dnso.html
Earlier draft versions are posted at
Stef,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Einar Stefferud writes:
Hello Eberhard;-)...
I believe that we can submit a revised list of Parus Draft supporters
on Sunday, as the deadline for submission was at midnight tonight, US
PST, which is a few minutes from now;-)...
I see very little
On 06-Feb-99 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
Even Michael Sondow who has been as vocal in criticizing you two as I
but on a different level has signed off on it on behalf of the ICIIU.
It should also be pointed out the Mr Sondow was one of the most vocal supporters
of the DNSO.org process, even
William,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "William X. Walsh" writes:
On 06-Feb-99 Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
Even Michael Sondow who has been as vocal in criticizing you two as I
but on a different level has signed off on it on behalf of the ICIIU.
It should also be pointed out the Mr
Greg Skinner wrote:
I don't want to go so far as to say that a domain name must map to an
IP address. That would rule out domain names that map to MX records
that forward mail to hosts that are not attached to the Internet
proper, for example. But I do think that the assignment of domain
William,
You wrote:
On 06-Feb-99 Javier SOLA wrote:
snip
Please people, do not take these people's word on this stuff. READ THE
DRAFTS
and ask yourself these questions. Form your own opinion and PLEASE, above
all,
MAKE YOUR OPINION KNOWN by posting to the various lists of this
Ellen,
You wrote:
Einar Stefferud wrote:
I stongly agree that you should keep all drafts for the historical
record to prevent further rewriting of DNSO history!
I'm pleased that you find these comparisons so useful.
Once again, an outstanding job.
The two proposals that have been
1. Leo Kottke: Mudlark
2. Little Feat: Waiting for Columbus
3. Miles Davis: ESP
4. Tori Amos: Tales from the Choirgirl Hotel
5. Talk Talk: History Revisited
I hereby protest the no greatest hits rule (What makes those TM folks
think they can always make the rules for everyone else? Things are
William X. Walsh a écrit:
It should also be pointed out the Mr Sondow was one of the most vocal supporters
of the DNSO.org process,
I supported the process when it was a good one. I was one of the
participants, like Eberhard Lisse, Bill Semitch, Nii Quaynor, Ricardo Sawon,
Daniel Kaplan,and
At 04:02 PM 2/6/99 +0100, Roberto Gaetano wrote:
Wiliam Walsh:
On 06-Feb-99 Javier SOLA wrote:
snip
The WITSA (or DNSO.org/INTA) Draft application is at:
http://www.witsa.org/press/domainapp.htm
The Paris Application (Supported by CENTR, RIPE, IATLD, APTLD, directly by
a
number of
Hello everyone. After catching up on some sleep, I have now made sure that
the http://dnso.association.org/ web site is now up to date with the
complete draft of the Paris Draft Proposal, the cover letter and the
supporting letter from AIP, with the appendix of proposed edits that
couldn't make
Esther, Is ogilvy doing this for free? For a discount or at its regular
rates? how much *ARE* you pasying them for their slippery sleight of hand.
Here in their own words from their own web site is their methodology for
helping outfits like ICANN, outfits in trouble with alienated publics,
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Kerry Miller wrote:
better if ICANN proclaims forthwith that all domain names will be
characterized in Cyrillic.
When does the .KOM domain open for business?
Where can I register MEMPA.KOM
Will we keep the .NET domain (good Cyrillic letters) or will it be
translated
On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Martin B. Schwimmer wrote:
Forget about this DNSO business. Let's just compile a list of ten CDs (I
was going to say album but that would have dated me) we would take to a
desert island (I was going to say Niue but I know Bill Semich has a
collection of MP3 files there
Michael,
Are you really this dense?
Michael, your comments below are WAY out of line, and I demand an apology.
On 06-Feb-99 Michael Sondow wrote:
William X. Walsh a écrit:
It should also be pointed out the Mr Sondow was one of the most vocal
supporters
of the DNSO.org process,
As soon as INEGroup presents its bonafides and verifies its stakeholder
position, then its suggestions might carry more weight.
But INEGroup is still not willing to provide even ONE phone number of a
supporter, employee, or associate which does not ring to Jeff's voice mail.
That would go a
Hi Michael,
With all due respect, you are wrong!
No deals were made in Paris -- simply an effort
at finding the common ground between competing
ideas and philosophies.
My favorite example is the debate over RFC 1591.
There were three very different, and in some cases,
divergent positions
at a discount, approximately cost.
Esther
At 12:39 PM 06/02/99 -0500, Gordon Cook wrote:
Esther, Is ogilvy doing this for free? For a discount or at its regular
rates? how much *ARE* you pasying them for their slippery sleight of hand.
Here in their own words from their own web site is their
On Sat, Feb 06, 1999 at 04:09:08PM -0500, Jay Fenello wrote:
Hello John,
There are no conspiracies involved here.
Producing a broad consensus draft is an involved
process. It took many people working long hours,
on tight schedules, to make it happen.
According to the
Sascha and all,
With respect to William Walsh, I must agree with you completely on
this score. His incessant personal attacks of many individuals are
inappropriate and of little use to anyone.
Sascha Ignjatovic wrote:
On Sat, 6 Feb 1999, William X. Walsh wrote:
Sascha doesn't want to
Gordon,
There is another view on the engagement of Ogilvy by ICANN. It is very common for not
for profits to be helped by PR firms for payment that covers basically out of pocket
expenses. I would assume that is the case with ICANN. PR firms offer a lot of
services NOT JUST spin doctoring
Sean and all,
Well there are a few suggestions that have been made many times before
Sean, that the ICANN "Initial" and Interim Board has been ask to do that
would go a long ways towards good PR for them, that thus far they have
refused to do.
1.) Where are their bonifides as to how and whom
Thanks Jay for explaining the undercurrents behind the Paris decision
on "1.0 INTRODUCTION".
I must say that I like the reworking of the essence of the ORSC
position into text that satisfied all parties to the Paris Draft.
I also want to say that we shodul all look at the Paris Draft to see
if
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