Greg Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"Richard J. Sexton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:03 AM 5/21/99 -0700, Kent Crispin wrote:
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:57:34PM -0800, Ellen Rony wrote:
After a summer of international meetings in 1998, people believed that the
selection of the interim
Richard J. Sexton a écrit:
Hey, kinda like the ISOC meeting before the Geneva IFWP meeting.
Coincidence, I'm sure.
You have to understand, Richard, that those people in ISOC and CORE
aren't very intelligent. They have a limited set of tactics, which
they use over and over again, and which
Esther Dyson a écrit:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation, etc.
I posted a request to you to allow voting in Berlin. You replied
that it was too soon. Are you now saying that you lied in
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]@esther, Esther Dyson writes:
For the record, Joe was talking about two different things. But why
does all this matter so much anyway? who phoned whom, etc. etc.
It doesn't matter at all, you are quite right. What DOES matter is
that he seems to have stated under
Amadeu,
so, your last attempt at capture didn't work.
And, I can tell you, you can count your blessings that I am missing
Berlin by a week
el
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Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:09:10 -0700
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[EMAIL
Greg,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Skinner writes:
If this is the case, this is bad for the IFWP process (and email in
particular as a step towards participatory online Internet
governance), if it actually could have had more of an impact on
ICANN.
The IFWP process was dead long
Greg,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Skinner writes:
Frank Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The real real question is:
"Why can't we vote for our representatives? Why do you have the power to
make decisions for the whole Internet?"
Just as an observation, if ISOC folks like Heath
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]@esther, Esther Dyson writes:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation, etc.
So "muster" means identiy verification, then?
el
Esther,
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]@esther, Esther Dyson writes:
The rooms are open. Then either the constituencies self-organize,
and the Initial Board recognizes them, or certain constituencies
Interim or Initial?
will be missing in the initial DNSO. At that point, the
constituencies
On Sat, 22 May 1999 03:26:52 -0400, Michael Sondow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Esther Dyson a écrit:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation, etc.
I posted a request to you to allow voting in
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Willie whines:
There is no ICIIU Michael. It is just you, and your self glory. Give
it up already, everyone has seen through your little power play.=20
You are no better than ICANN and Jeff Williams.
Ach, Willie, stop whining.
el
Stef and all,
Well this is certainly true, or hopefully so. However it should have bee obvious
for some time now as I have been warning. ICANN is not interested in
serving the stakeholder community as whole, never has been despite the
rather elaborate front the Interim board of ICANN has
Esther and all,
Esther, this seems like a very reasonable request given your own public
statements of yesterday and today How about it?
Michael Sondow wrote:
Esther Dyson a écrit:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
rules pass muster: open,
On Fri, 21 May 1999 22:23:57 -0700, Einar Stefferud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Patrick -- That is the bad news.
The good news is that doing so will unmask ICANN for what it is;-)...
BTW, my access to present mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is blocked and my mail is being
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Willie the Whiner whined again:
Nice way to get rid of mail from a certain someone...just enable
ORBS on the list mailserver, netcom has quite a few open relays,
including the one at the dallas pop.
You are not only an idiot (proved again by this suggestion
At 09:44 AM 5/22/99 +0100, you wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]@esther, Esther
Dyson writes:
For the record, Joe was talking about two different things. But why
does all this matter so much anyway? who phoned whom, etc. etc.
It doesn't matter at all, you are quite right. What DOES matter
On Sat, 22 May 1999 11:07:06 +0100, Dr Eberhard W Lisse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Willie the Whiner whined again:
Nice way to get rid of mail from a certain someone...just enable
ORBS on the list mailserver, netcom has quite a few open relays,
including the one
At 01:04 PM 5/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
The page information for the Proposed Interim Policy for
Geographic Diversity on the ICANN Board of Directors
http://www.icann.org/geo-diversity.html indicates it was created
on May 17th. I did not notice the discussion surrounding its
formation nor an
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Lovell writes:
But then that does confirm my opinion of the second oldest profession
in the world.
Hey, Dr. Lisse:
Stuff it.
Dr. Lovell
Hey, Dr Lovell.
But the only difference is that lawyers get more money for the same
work.
el
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], William X. Walsh writes:
On Sat, 22 May 1999 11:07:06 +0100, Dr Eberhard W Lisse
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Willie the Whiner whined =
again:
Nice way to get rid of mail from a certain someone...just enable
ORBS on the list
Only Esther could respond first to Rick's writing:
I would like to understand what voting in the constituency
meeting means. It appears that anyone can go to a meeting
and participate in its organization.
thusly:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
There are many interests to be represented, as Mr. Sondow points out. IMHO,
however, none of them overrides the very necessary protection for Internet
access that geographic diversity offers the rest of the world. Here is my
reasoning, which is somewhat different from Izumi's.
First: Special
Dr Eberhard W Lisse a écrit:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]@esther, Esther Dyson
writes:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation, etc.
So "muster" means identiy verification, then?
What
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Sondow writes:
Dr Eberhard W Lisse a écrit:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]@esther, Esther D
yson writes:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation,
Michael Sondow wrote:
Esther Dyson a écrit:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as
the voting
rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad participation, etc.
I posted a request to you to allow voting in Berlin. You replied
that it was too soon. Are you
At 02:01 PM 5/22/99 +0100, you wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Lovell writes:
But then that does confirm my opinion of the second oldest profession
in the world.
Hey, Dr. Lisse:
Stuff it.
Dr. Lovell
Hey, Dr Lovell.
But the only difference is that lawyers get more money for
On Sat, 22 May 1999, Kent Crispin wrote:
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Eric Weisberg wrote:
Izumi AIZU wrote:
But I want to state that the geographic diversity has been very much
the consensus from last year's IFWP process,
Only in an "aspirational" sense. We have
I just noticed the following links on the bottom of the ICANN
Berlin Meeting page http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/berlin/
Berkman Center for Internet Society | Translate This Page
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Lovell writes:
At 02:01 PM 5/22/99 +0100, you wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Lovell writes:
But then that does confirm my opinion of the second oldest profession
in the world.
Hey, Dr. Lisse:
Stuff it.
Dr. Lovell
Hey, Dr
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kent Crispin writes:
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Eric Weisberg wrote:
Izumi AIZU wrote:
But I want to state that the geographic diversity has been very much
the consensus from last year's IFWP process,
Only in an "aspirational" sense.
Indeed, we're doing our best to make our content available in many
languages. It's tricky, though: To have an "official" translation would
require that we somehow review it for style and substance -- that we make
sure that it's really a fair and accurate translation of the original. At
least
Mr. Twomey-
Is it true that you told Sean Jackson, the delegated governmental
representative of .TC, that he would not be allowed to observe the
Berlin meeting of the ICANN Governmental Advisory Committee because
his country is a "colony" of England?
Two world wars have been fought and the
At 10:05 AM 5/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Eric Weisberg wrote:
Izumi AIZU wrote:
But I want to state that the geographic diversity has been very much
the consensus from last year's IFWP process,
Only in an "aspirational" sense. We have never agreed
Kent Crispin wrote:
I'm sorry, Eric. You are misinformed. Izumi is correct: geographic
diversity has been an absolute requirement from very early on,
By whom? I did not hear it required at Reston and am not aware of an IFWP poll on
the subject.
We do not know what process produced that
John
In message 000401bea486$5144f840$[EMAIL PROTECTED], "John B. Reynolds"
writes:
Michael Sondow wrote:
Mr. Twomey-
Is it true that you told Sean Jackson, the delegated governmental
representative of .TC, that he would not be allowed to observe the
Berlin meeting of the ICANN
At 02:10 PM 5/22/99 -0400, you wrote:
Indeed, we're doing our best to make our content available in many
languages. It's tricky, though: To have an "official" translation would
require that we somehow review it for style and substance -- that we make
sure that it's really a fair and accurate
At 02:26 PM 5/22/99 -0400, Michael Sondow wrote:
Mr. Twomey-
Is it true that you told Sean Jackson, the delegated governmental
representative of .TC, that he would not be allowed to observe the
Berlin meeting of the ICANN Governmental Advisory Committee because
his country is a "colony" of
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 10:47:42AM -0700, Patrick Greenwell wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 1999, Kent Crispin wrote:
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Eric Weisberg wrote:
Izumi AIZU wrote:
But I want to state that the geographic diversity has been very much
the consensus from
No, I said it was too soon for the precisely prescribed process you outlined.
Esther
At 03:26 AM 22/05/99 -0400, Michael Sondow wrote:
Esther Dyson a écrit:
That's really up to the constituencies themselves - as long as the voting
rules pass muster: open, nondiscriminatory, broad
John and all,
As ICANN and the DNSO is supposed to represent ALL of the stakeholder
community why would not ALL constituencies that form of their own accord
be represented? Unless there is some particular prejudice perhaps
John B. Reynolds wrote:
Michael Sondow wrote:
Esther Dyson
Is there no limit to this madness?
No Mike, you're still at it. Admirable effort.
Alejandro Pisanty
International Congress of Independent Internet Users (ICIIU)
http://www.iciiu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 22 May 1999, Kent Crispin wrote:
I'm sorry, Eric. You are misinformed. Izumi is correct: geographic
diversity has been an absolute requirement from very early on, and is
a component of the White paper. We spent a great deal of time in the
DNSO meetings discussing exactly
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