[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread jeff Williams
Jay and all,   I guess I would have to ask, "is this really the point"?  I am a Trademark Holder and paten holder, yet I do NOT agree with the intent or verbiage of the WIPO report, not to mention it overstepped its mandate in the White Paper.  Many companies that I have personally talked to thei

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread William X. Walsh
On 25-Jan-99 Jay Fenello wrote: > The TB interests, on the other hand, really need a fast > and simple way to establish some rules for the Internet. > They can either build a system of contracts as suggested > in the White Paper, or they can spend the next 100 years, > and millions of dollar

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Jay Fenello
At 1/25/99, 07:02 PM, William X. Walsh wrote: > >On 25-Jan-99 Jay Fenello wrote: >> The TB interests, on the other hand, really need a fast >> and simple way to establish some rules for the Internet. >> They can either build a system of contracts as suggested >> in the White Paper, or they can

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread jeff Williams
Jay and all, Thank you for submitting this impression Jay. It is much appreciated by many I am sure. As to your conclusion on these impressions. In what manner will a "Consensus" be determined? Without a viable method on measuring that there is "Consensus" for any draft, there cannot be a

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread William X. Walsh
On 26-Jan-99 Jay Fenello wrote: > Hi William, > > They have the influence they have, > and that's enough influence to block > *any* proposal put on the table. People keep claiming this, but I fail to see exactly how they can claim to be able to do this? Especially considering that they have b

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Jay Fenello
At 1/25/99, 08:20 PM, William X. Walsh wrote: > >On 26-Jan-99 Jay Fenello wrote: >> Hi William, >> >> They have the influence they have, >> and that's enough influence to block >> *any* proposal put on the table. > >People keep claiming this, but I fail to see exactly how they can claim to be >a

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread William X. Walsh
On 26-Jan-99 Jay Fenello wrote: > Think of it this way. > > The trademark/business community is *much*, > **much** stronger than ORSC, yet ORSC has > been able to block (or at least slow down) > many of the plans that we haven't agreed > with. > > Don't you think they can as well? > Maybe

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 08:54 PM 1/25/99 -0500, Jay Fenello wrote: >The trademark/business community is *much*, >**much** stronger than ORSC, yet ORSC has >been able to block (or at least slow down) >many of the plans that we haven't agreed >with. > >Don't you think they can as well? The nameserver operators of th

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Einar Stefferud
As I stated emphatically and clearly in the 22 January DNSO meeting when the INTA and DNSO.ORG participants argued for setting up a limited particiaption telecon to resolve the outstanding issues, and that other drafting efforts should be suspended in fa

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Jay Fenello
Hi Stef, I agree that ORSC should continue its efforts at drafting a consensus document. I also agree that the results of tomorrow's conference call (CC) should be made available for incorporation into the ongoing ORSC draft editing process. After all, it is not outside the realm of po

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Bret A. Fausett
A few comments on Jay's summary, which sounds all the right notes. Jay Fenello wrote: >My impression of this process was that there are only >a few, major philosophical differences that must be >resolved. One is whether the DNSO will feature a top >down, or bottom up decision making process.

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Jay Fenello
Hi Bret, You are correct -- I was framing the debate, rather than describing its spectrum. I agree that both the AIP and CENTRE proposals are somewhere in between. Looking forward to tomorrow. Jay. At 1/25/99, 11:35 PM, Bret A. Fausett wrote: >A few comments on Jay's summary, which sou

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Bret A. Fausett
Jay Fenello wrote: >P.S. I have asked that the CC be transcribed, >but this has not yet been confirmed. I was asked by one of the conference organizers whether I would consent to the call being recorded and then transcribed or made available on the internet via RealAudio. Of course, I consent

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Michael Sondow
Jay Fenello a écrit: > > Hi Bret, > > You are correct -- I was framing the > debate, rather than describing its > spectrum. > > I agree that both the AIP and CENTRE > proposals are somewhere in between. > > Looking forward to tomorrow. What exactly is it that you're "looking forward to tomorr

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Einar Stefferud
Hi Jay and Bret -- I agree with the discussion of the Frame and the Spectrum of the issues, and want endorse what you plan for the ConfCall. I also want to recall the ideas I have often mentioned of using Fair Hearing Panels (and now including Research Panels ala AIP), to provide for the means f

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread Roberto Gaetano
Folks, I liked Jay's summary. Let me add few lines to Bret's comments. Bret Fausett wrote: > Jay Fenello wrote: > >My impression of this process was that there are only > >a few, major philosophical differences that must be > >resolved. One is whether the DNSO will feature a top > >down, or

[ifwp] RE: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread William X. Walsh
I left the [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the CC list, but I STILL have not been able to send or receive mail from it On 27-Jan-99 Roberto Gaetano wrote: > Folks, > > I liked Jay's summary. > Let me add few lines to Bret's comments. > Regards > Roberto Hello Roberto. It is late, and I am going to

[ifwp] Re: Impressions from Washington

1999-01-27 Thread jeff Williams
Roberto and all, Roberto Gaetano wrote: Folks, I liked Jay's summary. Let me add few lines to Bret's comments. Bret Fausett wrote: > Jay Fenello wrote: > >My impression of this process was that there are only > >a few, major philosophical differences that must be > >resolved.  One is whether the