Re: [WSG] Semantics of news

2006-12-16 Thread Kenny Graham
Why you wouldn't say that date in this case is not paragraph? Paragraph in html is just block of text and this is block of text content isn't? No, a div is a generic block of text. A paragraph is an actual paragraph. We don't have 'date' element in html therefore we need to take more universa

Re: [WSG] Semantics of P element (?)

2006-12-16 Thread Kenny Graham
I cant seem to find anything Div is generic block.. not generic block of text. Agreed, I worded it badly. It can contain non-text, but doesn't have to. In most cases it groups block elements as for grouping inline there are other dedicated elements as span which is inline itself (so it shou

Re: [WSG] Site check raoset.com

2007-02-16 Thread Kenny Graham
I'm looking mostly for the semantics behind it That looks to me like an invitation to obsessively nit-pick. :) The top right section looks like it contains a list of services you offer, and a quote from the bible. Would probably be best to mark those up as a list, a blockquote, and a cite. Al

Re: [WSG] Site check andrewingram.net

2007-02-17 Thread Kenny Graham
Basically, anything you can think of (especially things that are an easy fix) would be most welcome. Something very small, but it's -something-, the navigation links should probably be an unordered list instead of ordered. the order isn't really important to understand them properly, as it woul

Re: [WSG] hr won't turn black

2007-02-18 Thread Kenny Graham
currently i am using borders on divs to achieve this effect and you should use borders on the hr as well. the color property changes the text color for the hr, but it doesn't contain any text. give the hr a top or bottom 1px black border, and 0px on the other sides, and it should work. tho i'm

Re: [WSG] Site Issue - opinions please

2007-02-19 Thread Kenny Graham
wow, this is probably off topic, but whenever i have your site loaded in firefox, my mouse cursor disappears when it's not moving, regardless of where on the firefox the cursor is (menu bar, page, etc) or what tab i'm in. When I close the tab that your site is in, the cursor returns to normal. I

Re: [WSG] Table/fraction markup question

2006-03-24 Thread Kenny Graham
> Is there a more semantic way to mark up the table, specifically the > fractions? Currently I'm using something along the lines of: > > numerator⁄denominator&34; If you can serve it as XML, then you can use MathML [1], but if you need IE support, your way is probably the best way. [1] http://ww

Re: [WSG] substitute for iframes?

2006-03-25 Thread Kenny Graham
You could use an object, but browser support is probably flakey. The following works for me in IE6/Win and FF/Win, haven't tested in others: HTML Object Google embedded without iframes http://www.google.com"; type="text/html" height="240" width="320"> Could not load Google.

Re: [WSG] top: 0px; Not Working

2006-03-29 Thread Kenny Graham
It's rendering in quirks mode, that might be causing it. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ***

Re: [WSG] injecting a bit of humor into your css

2006-03-30 Thread Kenny Graham
#myEx #me > .oops1 + .oops2 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help

Re: [WSG] Environmentally conscious websites

2006-03-30 Thread Kenny Graham
Small nitpick: I'd give your zoom control a class or ID and take away it's bullet. I'm showing two overlapping bullets on your first list item on FF1.5/win ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.

Re: [WSG] Environmentally conscious websites

2006-03-30 Thread Kenny Graham
As for a fun way to use even less power, try making the background black. I'm pretty sure that'd use less power to view, at least on CRTs. :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guide

Re: [WSG] Forums

2006-03-31 Thread Kenny Graham
Now a web standards forum using slash that'd be interesting. Then again, I'd be modded "-1 Troll" so maybe a mailing list is best. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cf

Re: [WSG] I'm Floating!!

2006-04-01 Thread Kenny Graham
> Obviously I could use a floating div tutorial of some sort > :). Do you know of any? http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm fo

Re: [WSG] NY Times redesign

2006-04-04 Thread Kenny Graham
I think somehow our message of "it's good to mark up lists as lists" has been perceived as "using lists for lists == standards compliance" ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines

[WSG] Good news

2006-04-06 Thread Kenny Graham
This might already be common knowledge, but I didn't know until I saw this on another list today: -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Apr 6, 2006 4:54 AM Subject: Re: Question about XHTML 2.0 and content type (PR#7880) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: [WSG] Good news

2006-04-06 Thread Kenny Graham
Google valid? That'll happen about the same time that myspace goes valid. I'm assuming it's summer in the northern hemisphere since that's where google is based. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandards

Re: [WSG] input

2006-04-07 Thread Kenny Graham
Just plase don't keep a splash screen after the site is completed. Also, if you must keep the binary numbers as link text, you should probably at least put a title attribute on them to describe where they're going. But it looks nice. :) And i'm not sure that entities in an alt attribute are

Re: [WSG] scrolling sidebar

2006-04-14 Thread Kenny Graham
overflow: scroll; will give an element a scrollbar (set a height on the element too, or it won't have any reason to scroll). as for that being more user-friendly this should be a fun debate. *gets the popcorn* ** The discussion list for htt

Re: [WSG] scrolling sidebar

2006-04-14 Thread Kenny Graham
> [overflow:scroll] is not quite what I was thinking. > Rather something like this: > http://www.hobotraveler.com/template_SIDEBAR_JAVASCRIPT.shtml ah. you want position: fixed. won't work in IE6 without something like dean edwards IE7 script tho. ***

[WSG] IE un-hover

2006-04-15 Thread Kenny Graham
I'm rewriting a very simple site for a friend (making it all standardified) but of course I'm having a problem with IE. I'm using a combined image for the hover/not-hover background on the menu items, swapping them with background-position on hover. But in IE, they're not swapping back when they

Re: [WSG] IE un-hover

2006-04-15 Thread Kenny Graham
> Try specifying the background-position for the normal, non-hovered state > as well. No luck. :( ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the

Re: [WSG] IE un-hover

2006-04-15 Thread Kenny Graham
it's one of those problems where minimizing/restoring the window fixes it. so it's definately a rendering bug... but i can't figure out a work-around ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mai

Re: [WSG] IE un-hover

2006-04-15 Thread Kenny Graham
> Add this 'nonsense' style... A nonsense style for a nonsense browser. Worked like a charm. Thanx :) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to

Re: [WSG] tabbing, navigation

2006-04-22 Thread Kenny Graham
Just an opinion: I'd get rid of the empty 's. For instance, you can replace this:   Sitemap with this: Sitemap and reference it just like you would before: Link to your anchor ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] tabbing, navigation

2006-04-22 Thread Kenny Graham
Also your navigation (top and side) should probably go in unordered lists. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *

Re: [WSG] convert to XHTML

2006-05-03 Thread Kenny Graham
Just a plain text file? If so, then it can't be done, as it won't have any way to infer the semantic meaning of bits of plain text. A non-semantic HTML file? No again, as it won't be able to tell, for instance, if italic text is a citation, emphasized text, etc. Semantic HTML with presentation

Re: [WSG] Target attribute - coming or going?

2006-05-04 Thread Kenny Graham
No, Stevio was not referring to the :target *pseudo-class* (that's not a property, it's a selector). Stevio was referring to the 'target' *property* in the CSS3 Hyperlink Presentation Module working draft [1], and that proposed property is designed to serve a similar purpose to the target attribu

Re: [WSG] Offlist unscientific poll

2006-05-16 Thread Kenny Graham
Firefox. Opera's better, but I don't find the interface intuitive[1], and I can't block ads. [1] Or maybe it's just that it's not the same as IE/NN/FF/everything-else, and I'm too lazy to learn something new. ** The discussion list for http://

Re: [WSG] Validation Errors that don't exist - does the validator work?

2006-05-17 Thread Kenny Graham
those aren't errors, they're warnings. it's still validating, and just drawing your attention to things that have the potential to cause problems in some circumstances. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://websta

Re: [WSG] what is behaviour & what is presentation?

2006-05-19 Thread Kenny Graham
As I understand it, behavior is what happens in response to a user action. For instance, if someone clicks a "+", expand this section. I also consider color changes on hover to be behavior, etc. Presentation is just presentation. How it's presented, how it looks (fonts, what sections go where, e

Re: [WSG] new site critique

2006-05-19 Thread Kenny Graham
I'm seeing the bottom nav as black on very very dark grey. Didn't realize it was there until i accidently hovered it. Somewhat related: Are bottom text navs still needed? I thought they were used mainly to make tag-soup images-with-out-alts navigations usable without images "back in the day", y

Re: [WSG] what is behaviour & what is presentation?

2006-05-19 Thread Kenny Graham
What it's doing for us here is to change two images in two different locations of the document whilst only hovering over one or the other image. MY QUESTION is, is this behavior or presentation? That's behavior, as it's in response to a user action (hovering). The follow-up question to this w

Re: [WSG] List headings

2006-07-09 Thread Kenny Graham
This example says the the unordered list fits beneath the hn heading, with all other content below that heading (until new heading found). But what if I want to specify that the heading is for the list only? XHTML2 will take care of this problem for you: Higher level heading Some paragraph t

Re: [WSG] List headings

2006-07-09 Thread Kenny Graham
List heading Just got me thinking... what's the semantic difference in doing this and using a ? Will one be more right than the other, or is it a matter of how the label/heading fits with the rest of the document's structure?

Re: [WSG] image border inside

2006-07-09 Thread Kenny Graham
Setup the border as you have, but try also using negative padding/margins to pull the position of the border inwards (should be padding). Margins can be negative, but padding can't[1], so should be margins. [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/box.html#padding-properties

Re: [WSG] Xforms

2006-07-26 Thread Kenny Graham
I just wanted everyone's opinions on Xforms and if you think it is currently worth it to undergo a transition. If you're asking that as a programmer of a web browser, yes. If you're asking that as a web developer, no, since there's little or no user agent support for it yet. *

[WSG] Navs at bottom of pages

2006-08-31 Thread Kenny Graham
I've noticed many people from this list stil put text-and-broken-pipe navs at the bottom of their pages. Is this still needed? I always thought the reason for it was to have a "text version" of the main graphics-with-out-alts-in-a-giant-table nav. Is there a reason that I'm missing, or are they

Re: [WSG] testing for mobile browsers

2006-09-11 Thread Kenny Graham
- browsing on a wifi enable mobile ('coz I don't have one) any thoughts, comparisons, other options... I use my phone (Samsung A900) since i get data dirt cheap (employee plan). The differences between the built-in browser and the Opera Mini i installed are huge. Opera Mini seems to ignore th

[WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
A site I'm working on has both a screen and a handheld stylesheet. Safari is loading them both, which is causing some major problems. The site is served as xhtml, and the stylesheets are loaded by PIs. Is there any way to filter out the handheld stylesheet from Safari? **

Re: Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
I believe that if you order your style sheets, thusly, it might work around the bug: 1. handheld 2. screen It changes quite a bit, but still is messed up. The handheld sheet styles elements that are unstyled in the screen sheet. I could probably fix it by doing the handheld sheet first as you

Re: Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
FWIW, my experience is that you won't get very far using media types for applying screen versus handheld styles anyway. Internet Explorer Mobile, for one, My Samsung A900's ugly default browser uses handheld stylesheets pretty much flawlessly, seems to just love the xhtml mime type... it just p

Re: [WSG] Safari filter

2006-09-13 Thread Kenny Graham
If it's for your own site then you might as well just do what works for you, but if it's a commercial site, or something you're doing for a client, I'm afraid you're in for a world of pain :-( Luckilly it's a semi-personal site. It's an interface for a database used by me and a large group of f

Re: [WSG] Using my Image replacement technique to create graphic menus

2006-10-12 Thread Kenny Graham
I know some say images are *as good as* text as long as they have the proper ALT attribute. I like text better because I think that putting an image of text into markup is equivalent to putting your font, text color, background, etc, into markup. Both make those attributes impossible to change