Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-21 Thread Martin Waiss
hello, there are extensive lists of several css-only and css & js methods for creating rounded corners on http://chronotron.wordpress.com/2006/05/14/nifty-css-rounded-corners-extensive-list/and http://www.econsultant.com/web-developer/css-rounded-corners/ there. greetinx from viennaOn 7/21/06, Jo

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-21 Thread Al Kendall
try these   http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.htmlCheers!!!AlOn 7/22/06, Jorge Laranjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi! I was trying NiftyCube for make rounded corner on my new website.But if I use (as I do) dimensions in "em" or "%" insted of "px" this librarydoesn't work so ok.NiftyCube is a

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-22 Thread Janos Hardi
Hi, This solution has nothin to do with common semantics - not recommended. Janos On 7/22/06, Al Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: try these http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html Cheers!!! Al ** The discussion list for http:/

RE: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-22 Thread Scott Swabey
Janos Hardi wrote: > Hi, > > This solution has nothin to do with common semantics - not > recommended. > > Janos > > On 7/22/06, Al Kendall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> try these http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html Hey Janos Care to elaborate on your adverse recommendation? Seems

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Scott Swabey wrote: Seems like the use of semantically neutral elements to create imageless rounded corners is more than acceptable. Am I missing something? Apart from "bloated source-code"(?), no, I don't think you have missed anything :-) Personally, I think "bloated source-code" should be

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-22 Thread Paul Novitski
On 7/22/06, Al Kendall wrote: try these http://www.html.it/articoli/nifty/index.html At 05:06 AM 7/22/2006, Janos Hardi wrote: This solution has nothin to do with common semantics - not recommended. Janos, may I assume that it's the use of the B tag you're objecting to, rather than the

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Janos Hardi
Hi, Well i cant say this "styled hack" is not elegant; the rounded corners as a task is very complicated, i know. I have no ultima ratio to discredit this solution I'm just saying the as a html markup tag was designed to an other purpose, namely styling or modifying a content element. In this

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Novitski
At 12:39 AM 7/23/2006, Janos Hardi wrote: I have no ultima ratio to discredit this solution I'm just saying the as a html markup tag was designed to an other purpose, namely styling or modifying a content element. In this case the purpose mentioned cant be fulfilled. This solution opens the way

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Paul Novitski wrote: If you call me a conservativist you're right :) I hope we can find a way to the realm of the rounded corners without solutions like this. Sure -- we can just use SPAN or DIV instead. But that still litters the markup with empty, meaningless elements which are there pur

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Keryx webb
Jorge Laranjo wrote: Hi! I was trying NiftyCube for make rounded corner on my new website. But if I use (as I do) dimensions in "em" or "%" insted of "px" this library doesn't work so ok. NiftyCube is a Javascript library that makes possibile to have rounded corners with xhtml + css and without

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Michael Persson
Try my CSS to mke your rounded corners its available at www.grekland.gr the titles that are light gray blueish has a css box, its not a nice code but it works. Michael Keryx webb wrote: Jorge Laranjo wrote: Hi! I was trying NiftyCube for make rounded corner on my new website. But if I use

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Novitski
If you call me a conservativist you're right :) I hope we can find a way to the realm of the rounded corners without solutions like this. Sure -- we can just use SPAN or DIV instead. At 04:51 AM 7/23/2006, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: But that still litters the markup with empty, meaningless elem

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
<...> It's always struck me as ironic that so many of us who carry the banner of semantic, validated X/HTML are willing to inject all kinds of stuff into pages at runtime. What is this -- we don't want to dirty our own hands typing non-semantic markup, but it's OK to build a robot to do the evil

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Novitski
At 06:13 AM 7/23/2006, Keryx webb wrote: Perhaps you can try this one. No JS. No extra Markup. http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/02/spanky-corners-10-rounded-corners-clean-html-no-javascript/ Nice technique, though I can see a few limitations: - It's limited to solid monochrome rounded

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Also, in happy times when multiple background images are commonly supported getting rid of one is easier than fishing out all extra divs, spans, etc. Looks to me like the CSS3 working draft for border-radius and multiple background-images won't solve much beyond the ordinary "round box" illusi

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Novitski
At 10:10 AM 7/23/2006, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Is there a standard-compliant and 'semantically clean' way to generate the extra elements/style-hooks needed for something like what's in this test-page... ...that'll work in most browsers? Georg, Your

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-23 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Paul Novitski wrote: Your basic structure looks like it would be easy to implement in JavaScript or PHP. Good. I'm almost completely lost when it comes to both Javascript and PHP, so I couldn't get any further on my own ;-) In short: I need he

RE: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-24 Thread michael.brockington
; From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janos Hardi > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:06 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners > > Hi, > > This solution has nothin to do with common semantics - not >

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-24 Thread Janos Hardi
which has been supported by Mozilla for a long time. Mike > -Original Message- > From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janos Hardi > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:06 PM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Rounded

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-24 Thread Designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of these solutions have much to do with semantics, and none of them appear to be fool-proof. If at all possible, stick with the standards - CSS3 includes a declaration for rounded corners, which has been supported by Mozilla for a long time. Mike - Good idea

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-24 Thread TuteC
Yes, and that´s my problem: sometimes I finish a standards compliant website but it doesn´t function as I want in IE6, and 90% of my visitors uses it. Some people doesn´t like the idea of using "dirty" sheets because it´s not standards compliant, but if my visitors can´t see the site as I designed

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-24 Thread Steve Eades
Hi,  I have been playing with Spiffy Corners @ http://www.spiffycorners.com/ for an Intranet but the Spiffy assures that it is "Anti-aliased rounded corners using pure CSS. No Images. No _javascript_. No fluff."  I can assume you that it is very easy to implement and scalable.  Works on Macs too. C

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-24 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Steve Eades wrote: Hi, I have been playing with Spiffy Corners @ http://www.spiffycorners.com/ for an Intranet but the Spiffy assures that it is "Anti-aliased rounded corners using pure CSS. No Images. No Javascript. No fluff." I can assume you that it is very easy to implement and scalable.

RE: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread michael.brockington
Bob, I know that you didn't intend any offence, and I appreciate that I did not give the answer that the poster was hoping for, but do I need to remind everyone of the title of this forum? As long as we fail to implement existing standards such as border-radius, IE can legitimately say there is no

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread sharron
f any kind, I won't use this bit of code. However I was curious as to your remark --all I can say is...wow *shakes head* Sharron - Original Message - From: "Patrick H. Lauke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Roun

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread James O'Neill
I have not been following this thread so much so bare with me here!  If I am totally in left field ignore me. =)I cannot speak for Patrick, but what I think that he is shaking his head at is the class names, the amount of class names, and markup that lacks semantic value.  I realize that the classn

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread sharron
org Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners I have not been following this thread so much so bare with me here!  If I am totally in left field ignore me. =)I cannot speak for Patrick, but what I think that he is shaking his head at is the class names,

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread James O'Neill
#x27;t ever ask for a critic of my code, I think I would prefer to remain ignorant.   Sharron - Original Message - From: James O'Neill To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners I have not been follow

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
James O'Neill wrote: Validating is a great start. But doesn't guarantee anything other than "you've used the right syntax". It's the same as running a spell check in your word processor: it can tell you if you've misspelled words, but it can't tell you if what you've written makes any sense

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-25 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 7/25/06 8:13 AM "James O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: > bare with me here! I certainly will not! ;-) Rick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for s