Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Thanks @Vesa, that got me further. Next snag (60%): https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/6345473/2489764/f88b2152-b176-11e3-8523-f76a4f569a0a.png Seems to be a resurrection of this: http://sourceforge.net/p/lmms/bugs/487/ I don't mind setting compile flags, but I'm not sure if this is recommended o

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Vesa
On 03/22/2014 01:21 AM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > Latest snag (48%) on Dynamics Processor: > > https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/6345473/2488898/f3c0b99e-b14d-11e3-8b7a-406f89847e79.png > > The error says "use of undeclared identifier 'isnanf'" > > Does this need the win32 comment in this file remo

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
On 03/21/2014 06:40 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > BTW you can remove festival-dev from the dependency list. It dates > back to LMMS 0.3.x where we had the SingerBot plugin (which hasn't > been maintained anymore and thus got removed). I had often wondered why festival was part of the depends... but

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
BTW you can remove festival-dev from the dependency list. It dates back to LMMS 0.3.x where we had the SingerBot plugin (which hasn't been maintained anymore and thus got removed). -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
On 03/21/2014 06:35 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Your efforts will be appreciated in either case and even if we don't > make it into 14.04 we can offer a PPA with up-to-date LMMS packages > :-) > > Toby Thanks! I suppose that is true. Once this is finished there will be a 'stable' ppa that I can me

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Your efforts will be appreciated in either case and even if we don't make it into 14.04 we can offer a PPA with up-to-date LMMS packages :-) Toby -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
On 03/21/2014 06:29 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > 2014-03-21 21:25 GMT+01:00 Vesa : >> Well there's this: >> >> cmake .. -DWANT_VST=y > You don't need these WANT_XXX flags except you want to *turn off* something. > > Again, please ignore your pbuilder errors and simply try to upload a > package

Re: [LMMS-devel] New synth

2014-03-21 Thread giakk...@hotmail.it
The very instant I saw the pic, I thought: "That's a TripleOscillator with customizable waveforms". Then I read about the two couples, A1-A2 and B1-B2... Fantastic! So what about a name inspired from this mix of modulation couples? A funny one... Like "2Double", "DualMod"... Or, we can try for

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
2014-03-21 21:25 GMT+01:00 Vesa : > Well there's this: > > cmake .. -DWANT_VST=y You don't need these WANT_XXX flags except you want to *turn off* something. Again, please ignore your pbuilder errors and simply try to upload a package with [amd64 i386] to the PPA - I'm almost sure, it will wo

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Latest snag (48%) on Dynamics Processor: https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/6345473/2488898/f3c0b99e-b14d-11e3-8b7a-406f89847e79.png The error says "use of undeclared identifier 'isnanf'" Does this need the win32 comment in this file removed? https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/blob/stable-0.4/plugins/d

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
On 03/21/2014 03:25 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 03/21/2014 09:21 PM, Israel wrote: >> I need to know how to make cmake think that installing the VST support >> is TRUE. How can I pass this argument in by default? > Well there's this: > > cmake .. -DWANT_VST=y > > (assuming you're in the build directo

Re: [LMMS-devel] New synth

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> Not bad... although I've been thinking something more wave-related. It > being a wavetable synth... : ) http://i.imgur.com/tfF4adA.png -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the def

Re: [LMMS-devel] How about a big, big 1-hour challenge?

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Think of it this way, the money made from the sale of the last competition > cd we can use it towards purchasing sound libraries. > :) Yeah, I think it can be a bit conflicting of a message for FOSS to start offering these types of thin

Re: [LMMS-devel] New synth

2014-03-21 Thread Vesa
On 03/21/2014 10:35 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > Sometimes the name stems from the sounds it makes... > Well, being a wavetable synth with modulation modes, there isn't really any particular sound - like Triple Osc, this thing can make a variety of very diverse sounds. > Have you put any work o

Re: [LMMS-devel] New synth

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Sometimes the name stems from the sounds it makes... Have you put any work on soundcloud yet that uses this? Very cool. The blue PM button reminds me of "Night" as does the big black wave surface. How about "Night Crawler". :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightcrawler It's our latest form of

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Vesa
On 03/21/2014 09:21 PM, Israel wrote: > I need to know how to make cmake think that installing the VST support > is TRUE. How can I pass this argument in by default? Well there's this: cmake .. -DWANT_VST=y (assuming you're in the build directory, if you're building directly in the source di

[LMMS-devel] New synth

2014-03-21 Thread Vesa
Ok so here's what I've been working on for the last few days. It's still a bit unfinished, but it works adequately now - doesn't crash or hang or anything and makes sound. I think it's still maybe better not to add it to 1.0.0, because I may still want to break some compatibility stuff (like I

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
On 03/21/2014 01:11 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: 2014-03-20 3:57 GMT+01:00 Tres Finocchiaro : 1. Package lmms built without wine dependencies 2. Package lmm-vst built with wine dependencies, requires package lmms, but only replaces the libraries that are linked to wine The goal is to provide pa

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Filipe Coelho
From what I've seen, the solution for this is to build the vst stuff only on i386 BUT re-using the package in 64bit. The PPA I liked to before uses this method, and it works. Basically there is "wine-dev [i386]" as build-depends, plus some smart multi-arch setup. "lmms" (amd64 i386) will depen

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
On 03/21/2014 10:56 AM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > The amd64 packages are still missing VST support at all. Can you > simply try to upload the packages with wine-deps enabled on amd64 > (wine1.4-dev [amd64 i386] | wine1.6-dev [amd64 i386])? I never had > problems so please don't let this feature be m

Re: [LMMS-devel] How about a big, big 1-hour challenge?

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Think of it this way, the money made from the sale of the last competition cd we can use it towards purchasing sound libraries. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Aquilina < > eagles051...@gmail.com>

Re: [LMMS-devel] Ubuntu package

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
2014-03-20 3:57 GMT+01:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > 1. Package lmms built without wine dependencies > 2. Package lmm-vst built with wine dependencies, requires package lmms, but > only replaces the libraries that are linked to wine The goal is to provide packages like I once did at https://launchpad.

Re: [LMMS-devel] How about a big, big 1-hour challenge?

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Tres I leave this in your hands :) > Not sure I'll be able to attend this one and I don't use IRC :) KVR does some pretty cool competitions like this, for example, make an entire track with one Synthesizer. Usually they promote a priz

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
FYI - Moved the tutorial to here: https://github.com/tresf/lmms/wiki/Compile-LMMS-for-OSX-Mavericks Assuming the this eventually works, I'll *eventually* need access to the official wiki... :) - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gma

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Besides the two links you emailed yesterday, what other dependencies are > there? > This question is exactly why I went the MacPorts route, because we'd need to try to mimic Toby's wget stuff. At first this seemed reasonable... I actu

Re: [LMMS-devel] How about a big, big 1-hour challenge?

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Tres I leave this in your hands :) On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: > >> I see one issue here. with only one solution. We will need a place to >> submit the entries, the thing th

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Just look at the CMake output. It will always tell you what's missing. Alternatively look at the names of DLL files shipped with the Win32/Win64 installers ;-) -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Besides the two links you emailed yesterday, what other dependencies are there? On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi, > > for the time being, you probably need to modify CMakeLists.txt > directly. Later we can add a check whether we're building with Clang > and if so, omi

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, for the time being, you probably need to modify CMakeLists.txt directly. Later we can add a check whether we're building with Clang and if so, omit the -Werror flag. Toby -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Re

Re: [LMMS-devel] 32bit vs. 64bit why?

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, please don't mix up wine64 and regular wine. wine packages on amd64 depend on wine-i386 which provides regular support for win32 applications. This is also what LMMS makes use of. When building LMMS with VST support, it *always* runs 32 bit VST (and uses the installed wine-i386 binaries), no m

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Thanks, I'll try. For clarification, do you mean changing CMakeLists.txt > https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/blob/stable-0.4/CMakeLists.txt#L310 Or rather some CFLAGS or WERROR_FLAGS argument? -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:19 AM, Tobias Doerffel wrote: > Hi, > > 2

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
The amd64 packages are still missing VST support at all. Can you simply try to upload the packages with wine-deps enabled on amd64 (wine1.4-dev [amd64 i386] | wine1.6-dev [amd64 i386])? I never had problems so please don't let this feature be missing just because there are difficulties with your pb

Re: [LMMS-devel] 32bit vs. 64bit why?

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > If 64bit wine can't handle VST I'm confused by this statement. I've done my building on 12.04 x64 and VST support works fine... 32-bit precompiled is better than no precompiled, so humbly, begger's certainly can't be choosers here, but I'm not sure I understand the extent of the problem...

Re: [LMMS-devel] How about a big, big 1-hour challenge?

2014-03-21 Thread Janne Sinisalo
Specifically http://solidcomposer.com/arena/ 2014-03-21 17:20 GMT+02:00 Janne Sinisalo : > There's solidcomposer.com > > > 2014-03-21 16:35 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Aquilina < >> eagles051...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I see one issue here. with on

Re: [LMMS-devel] How about a big, big 1-hour challenge?

2014-03-21 Thread Janne Sinisalo
There's solidcomposer.com 2014-03-21 16:35 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: > >> I see one issue here. with only one solution. We will need a place to >> submit the entries, the thing then becomes that we will need to block any >> upload

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > If you don't mind, I'll post this to the facebook page? > Scratch that, I wasn't thinking... no one will be running 14.04 yet... I'll put an item on my calendar to test this. Are there major changes I should look out for? -Tres ---

Re: [LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Israel, If you don't mind, I'll post this to the facebook page? -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Israel wrote: > I have decided to abandon the separate vst package for the feature > freeze exception as it has become too complicated and too buggy to > impl

Re: [LMMS-devel] 32bit vs. 64bit why?

2014-03-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 March 2014 13:05, Israel wrote: > It just seems that 64bit wine has a lot of issues not running many things. > Sorry if I was offensive there, I didn't mean to be. > I am simply wondering if building a 32bit only lmms will solve the > problems for everyone involved this may not be the

[LMMS-devel] PPA for Feature Freeze Testing

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
I have decided to abandon the separate vst package for the feature freeze exception as it has become too complicated and too buggy to implement for this release. I will begin working on it again during 14.10 cycle. This will give us plenty time to test and fix the implementation. The build fo

Re: [LMMS-devel] coding trouble...

2014-03-21 Thread Vesa
On 03/21/2014 01:00 PM, Vesa wrote: > I'm a bit stuck with this... > Thanks to grejppi, I got it figured out... now I have this thing at least producing sound! ;) -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Gr

Re: [LMMS-devel] How about a big, big 1-hour challenge?

2014-03-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I see one issue here. with only one solution. We will need a place to > submit the entries, the thing then becomes that we will need to block any > uploads after that hour is up. in other words not accept any submissions > for the competi

Re: [LMMS-devel] 32bit vs. 64bit why?

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
It just seems that 64bit wine has a lot of issues not running many things. Sorry if I was offensive there, I didn't mean to be. I am simply wondering if building a 32bit only lmms will solve the problems for everyone involved this may not be the case, of course... so I was asking if (theore

Re: [LMMS-devel] 32bit vs. 64bit why?

2014-03-21 Thread Rob Kudla
On 03/21/2014 08:36 AM, Israel wrote: > Is there a good reason why I should build a 64bit package? If 64bit > wine can't handle VST (or much of anything) why even build a 64bit > package? What do you mean by "or much of anything"? I run 64-bit and rarely use VSTs, so I didn't even notice they w

[LMMS-devel] 32bit vs. 64bit why?

2014-03-21 Thread Israel
Is there a good reason why I should build a 64bit package? If 64bit wine can't handle VST (or much of anything) why even build a 64bit package? Of course, I am not saying that 64bit Ubuntu users will simply not get to use lmms... rather that 64bit users will have to use a 32bit package with 32b

[LMMS-devel] coding trouble...

2014-03-21 Thread Vesa
I'm a bit stuck with this... I've been trying to write an instrument plugin, but now I keep getting a symbol lookup error and I can't figure out why... I'm probably missing something but what? I can't find any unfinished header declarations or anything... compiles fine but I get this error message

Re: [LMMS-devel] Building LMMS for OSX

2014-03-21 Thread Tobias Doerffel
Hi, 2014-03-21 6:47 GMT+01:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > Ok, so I went the MacPorts route and it was going pretty well until I hit a > few Clangs... :) > > https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/6345473/2480423/fc1508c6-b0bb-11e3-8855-a78bcd5955b6.png > > Basically the GNU code is throwing too many errors fo