Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 June 2014 21:33, Vesa wrote: > On 06/29/2014 11:00 PM, Raine M. Ekman wrote: >> If you don't need to do any MIDI communication in or out of LMMS, I'd >> suggest ALSA out to the "default" device from LMMS and then in to PA. >> It has a bit of latency, but it doesn't matter that much if you'r

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-29 Thread Vesa
On 06/29/2014 11:00 PM, Raine M. Ekman wrote: > Quoting Vesa : > >> Your only options are ALSA or Jack. However, Jack support on LMMS can be >> a bit glitchy. So your best bet is ALSA, and closing down LMMS whenever >> you need sound somewhere else. > If you don't need to do any MIDI communication

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-29 Thread Raine M. Ekman
Quoting Vesa : > Your only options are ALSA or Jack. However, Jack support on LMMS can be > a bit glitchy. So your best bet is ALSA, and closing down LMMS whenever > you need sound somewhere else. If you don't need to do any MIDI communication in or out of LMMS, I'd suggest ALSA out to the "def

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Vesa
On 06/28/2014 04:00 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Unfortunately, no other application can play sound now, until I shut LMMS. > > And if I start LMMS again while any other application that produces > sound is running, then LMMS comes up with "dummy" as the output device > again. > > So, much like using

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Vesa
On 06/28/2014 03:51 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > Has anyone else had anything like this? What could LMMS be sending > Pulse that makes it upset? > > > Yes. This is a major reason I don't use Ubuntu as my primary Desktop, > especially for music production. I never had luck mixing audio

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 June 2014 13:40, Vesa wrote: > On 06/28/2014 03:28 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> At present I'm using LMMS with alsa as the selected backend, alsa-base >> is installed. Presumably I've got pulse pretending to be alsa. > You need to set the "device" setting in the backend selection to point >

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > Has anyone else had anything like this? What could LMMS be sending > Pulse that makes it upset? > Yes. This is a major reason I don't use Ubuntu as my primary Desktop, especially for music production. I never had luck mixing audio production with things like YouTube and flash. This works fi

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Vesa
On 06/28/2014 03:28 PM, David Gerard wrote: > At present I'm using LMMS with alsa as the selected backend, alsa-base > is installed. Presumably I've got pulse pretending to be alsa. You need to set the "device" setting in the backend selection to point it directly to your sound device. Otherwise P

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread David Gerard
At present I'm using LMMS with alsa as the selected backend, alsa-base is installed. Presumably I've got pulse pretending to be alsa. On 28 June 2014 13:21, Vesa wrote: > On 06/28/2014 02:21 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> On 28 June 2014 12:11, Vesa wrote: >>> On 06/28/2014 01:47 PM, David Gerard wr

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Vesa
On 06/28/2014 02:24 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > If I am not mistaken i have seen some how to's about removing pulse > from ones system but its a rather risky thing to try. There's no need to remove PA. You can use ALSA directly in LMMS without removing PA. You just can't use them at the same ti

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Vesa
On 06/28/2014 02:21 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 28 June 2014 12:11, Vesa wrote: >> On 06/28/2014 01:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: >>> So, sound on Linux ... continues to suck. >>> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 with the default Pulseaudio. >> Well, that's your problem there. PA is not meant for audio work

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread David Gerard
Yeah. I've noted I can make stuff lovely for LMMS at the expense of everything else, but that's not something I can reasonably do. On 28 June 2014 12:24, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > If I am not mistaken i have seen some how to's about removing pulse from > ones system but its a rather risky thing

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
If I am not mistaken i have seen some how to's about removing pulse from ones system but its a rather risky thing to try. On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:21 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 28 June 2014 12:11, Vesa wrote: > > On 06/28/2014 01:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: > > >> So, sound on Linux ... con

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 June 2014 12:11, Vesa wrote: > On 06/28/2014 01:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> So, sound on Linux ... continues to suck. >> I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 with the default Pulseaudio. > Well, that's your problem there. PA is not meant for audio work. Stop > using PA and use ALSA in LMMS, that's p

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Before you berate him im using pulseaudio with ALSA on this laptop. the problem with ubuntu you are kinda screwed in teh sense they force not pulse audio per se but port audio which is a big pain in the backside. On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Vesa wrote: > On 06/28/2014 01:47 PM, David Gerar

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Vesa
On 06/28/2014 01:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: > So, sound on Linux ... continues to suck. > > I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 with the default Pulseaudio. Well, that's your problem there. PA is not meant for audio work. Stop using PA and use ALSA in LMMS, that's pretty much the only solution you can do.

Re: [LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I had the opposite of what is happening to you on gentoo I had an issue where i had to constantly select which audio back end. On gentoo there was a recent update to pulseaudio which fixed that issue and as well the issue of firefox not playing any audio for me. On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:47 PM,

[LMMS-devel] Pulseaudio keeps going weird

2014-06-28 Thread David Gerard
So, sound on Linux ... continues to suck. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 with the default Pulseaudio. Every now and then, running LMMS, the sound goes funny and turns into nothing but noise. (LMMS also plays faster when this happens!) The only fix is "pulseaudio --kil" and restart LMMS. I've tried JACK