RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-27 Thread Matthias Petersen
Hi all, thanks a lot for your mails. It seems that Log4J is definitive the right choice. Bye Matthias -- Matthias Petersen ms management systems gmbh Krokamp 29 24539 Neumünster Fon: +49. 4321. 9995-49 Fax: +49. 4321. 9995-41 E-Mail: [EMAIL

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Matthias, Admittedly, many of us at here at log4j-user@ are biased in favor of log4j. At 08:14 AM 10/27/2003 +0100, Matthias Petersen wrote: Hi all, thanks a lot for your mails. It seems that Log4J is definitive the right choice. Bye Matthias --

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-27 Thread Tbee
, while not incurring the potential pains of Commons Logging. Mike -Original Message- From: Tbee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:59 AM To: Log4J Users List Subject: RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Admittedly, many of us at here at log4j-user

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:59 AM To: Log4J Users List Subject: RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Admittedly, many of us at here at log4j-user@ are biased in favor of log4j. Really? Naah. - To unsubscribe

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-27 Thread Shapira, Yoav
: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Unless I am mistaken, commons-logging was always dynamic. It always used classloader tricks to determine which logging API to use. At 02:26 PM 10/27/2003 +0100, Tbee wrote: If I read the commons-logging articles correctly, this is exactly how commons- logging came

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-27 Thread Tbee
Unless I am mistaken, commons-logging was always dynamic. It always used classloader tricks to determine which logging API to use. Ok, then I stand corrected (and need to reread the articles ;-). Tom - To unsubscribe,

Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Matthias Petersen
Hi, I saw in the 1.4 JDK that there were new classes introduced concerning logging, which seems to be a base for Log4J. When I take a look at the class hierarchy of Log4J, it is not a subclass of those JDK logging classes (I think the reason is that Log4J is older than the 1.4 JDK...). So, what

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Shapira, Yoav
log4j from JDK 1.4 logging. Use log4j. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Matthias Petersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Hi, I saw in the 1.4 JDK that there were

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread du Plessis, Corneil C
in the future. Choosing log4j is not a bad choice because it is widely used and support options JDK 1.4 does not support now and may not support soon. -Original Message- From: Matthias Petersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 October, 2003 16:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Log4J vs

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Jacob Kjome
: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Hi, I saw in the 1.4 JDK that there were new classes introduced concerning logging, which seems to be a base for Log4J. When I take a look at the class hierarchy of Log4J, it is not a subclass of those JDK logging classes (I think the reason is that Log4J is older than

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Lutz Michael
] Subject: RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Howdy, http://www.qos.ch/logging/thinkAgain.html http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages/Log4jvsJDKLog ging http://builder.com.com/5100-22-1046694.html Log4j will be around. The next major release, v1.3, is going to have several

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Ceki Gülcü
PROTECTED] Subject: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Hi, I saw in the 1.4 JDK that there were new classes introduced concerning logging, which seems to be a base for Log4J. When I take a look at the class hierarchy of Log4J, it is not a subclass of those JDK logging classes (I think the reason is that Log4J

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPages/Log4jvs JDKL ogging I modified and edited the above page. Please let me know what you think. I took a look -- I like it ;) I corrected a couple of small text errors. I would like to add a link to the phrase that says log4j

Re: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread TBEE
Let me, as a log4j user, give my 2 cents. I looked at the Java 1.4 logging classes and decided they were inferior to log4j. Since log4j is an external JAR, it will not only be available in JDK1.4 but also in 1.5, ... and you can already use them in 1.3. So log4j is the way to go. Tom Matthias

Re: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread TBEE
Some people may disagree Yup ;-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Tom Eugelink
Oh, and let me add another opinion to my own mail. I think that adding more and more functionality to the JVM (what Sun is doing now) is not a good thing. I prefer a lean mean core engine and addon JARs. Want SSL? Add SSL.jar. Want logging? Add logging.jar. Want RDBMS? Add JDBC.jar. I'd vote

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Lutz Michael
great point. Hopefully someone at Sun is listening. -Original Message- From: Tom Eugelink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:26 PM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Oh, and let me add another opinion to my own mail. I think

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Marc Dostie
Isn't that what JCP is for? ;-) -Marc -Original Message- From: Lutz Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:55 PM To: 'Log4J Users List' Subject: RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging great point. Hopefully someone at Sun is listening. -Original

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Garlak, Gregory
-Original Message- From: Tom Eugelink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:26 PM To: Log4J Users List Subject: Re: Log4J vs. java.util.logging Oh, and let me add another opinion to my own mail. I think that adding more and more functionality to the JVM (what Sun

RE: Log4J vs. java.util.logging

2003-10-24 Thread Mark Womack
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?Log4JProjectPage s/Log4jvsJDKLogging I modified and edited the above page. Please let me know what you think. Much better. Thanks! The biggest reasons to use log4j, in my mind, are: 1) It is opensource, so if you need to make changes or add