Social Meeting

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
OK. Bowing to pressure from the heretics - we'll go to the Anchor next Thursday. Never let it be said that I don't listen to the little people :) Can someone product a set of simple instructions on how to get there. And the only suggestion I've had so far for the technical meeting on the 19th

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread James Powell
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:30:41AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: > Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > well .. since in most web based uses of MySQL the 99% of queries are > > simple 'select * from blah where something=something_else' .. the > > speed is all you need .. every now an

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Piers Cawley
Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:26:38PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > > > > (my pseudo-transaction scheme for MySQL is basically : .. do this and > > > return a closure to undo it if I to .. bung the closures in an

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > ok it looks like PO > > .. or the anchor! > > Do either do real ale? > i think both `theoretically' have guest ales, but it may vary for your definition of real for ins

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Nathan Torkington
> David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I should confess that I recently installed python on one of my boxen. > > Excuse: something else needed it. However, I'd like to take a look at > > it sometime. Same goes for Ruby. More things for the to-do queue. I found Ruby much closer to

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest > > problems with Perl work in london, > > Are employers there too stupid to read CVs? Or too lazy? Or is > there so

Re: Certifiable ( was Re: Job: I'm looking for one.. )

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > At 21:57 28/03/2001, you wrote: > >On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > > On

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Piers Cawley
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready > > for the way of the heretic. We must consider them - they are the > > sheep that may prefer their 2 half pint

Re: Certifiable ( was Re: Job: I'm looking for one.. )

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:57:45PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > > Maybe I should start a mailing list for discussion of this stuff tomorrow > > - thoughts ? > > Sounds a good idea. We're also happy to host it, if you want. > either is ok, although o

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: >Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by >those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS... Oh @deity, let's not do that. Consider the mess the WIPO's causing now, and then think about competition for "good"

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: > > The US approach (longer local numbers- everywhere is 7 digits now, > prepended by a three digit 'city' code) combined with the fact there s/city/area/; NYC, for instance, has at least two area codes at this point. I notice, in fa

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:26:38PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > > (my pseudo-transaction scheme for MySQL is basically : .. do this and > > return a closure to undo it if I to .. bung the closures in an array .. > > if something screws up then back it all o

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > ok it looks like PO > .. or the anchor! Do either do real ale? L. "Take your haddock to the paddock"

Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)

2001-03-28 Thread Neil Ford
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:35:25AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:05:18AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:11:13PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account > > > name during install? > > >

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Devers
At 10:49 PM 28.3.2001 +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: >On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 04:45:09PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: >> Heh -- they're one of my company's main competitors. >> I don't know the first thing about them > >*cough*. Hey, that's not good, you know. :) Well, yeah, I suppose. :) I just keep

Re: Certifiable ( was Re: Job: I'm looking for one.. )

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At 22:44 28/03/2001, you wrote: >On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:22:37PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > > There _was_ a Perl certification mailing list that Skud started a while > > back. > >Unless we're thinking of different things, wasn't that just perl-trainers? No. There was definitely a perlcert as w

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 04:45:09PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > Heh -- they're one of my company's main competitors. I don't know the first > thing about them *cough*. Hey, that's not good, you know. :) -- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a cri

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Devers
At 12:24 PM 28.3.2001 -0800, you wrote: >http://www.tekmetrics.com/ aka brainbench seems to still be going >strong. Heh -- they're one of my company's main competitors. I don't know the first thing about them (aside from the I think reasonable assumption that they must do roughly the same thing

Re: Certifiable ( was Re: Job: I'm looking for one.. )

2001-03-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:22:37PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > There _was_ a Perl certification mailing list that Skud started a while > back. Unless we're thinking of different things, wasn't that just perl-trainers? > Don't know if it still exists tho' - been quiet for a while. Nothing on li

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:32:15PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > well I just looked ... and their script failed to find 'Perl' even though > they have a test for Perl ... I hope this isn't the programming language equivalent of dot-bomb stock becoming unlisted as 'junk' on the NASDAQ... "Perl dr

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:20:55PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > Python 1.5.2 (#0, Apr 3 2000, 14:46:48) [GCC 2.95.2 2313 (Debian > GNU/Linux)] on linux2 My excuse was portsentry, but it sucked and I deleted it. majordomo is the one true mailing list manager, and you sir, are a her

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:29:46PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > advantage over other databases - speed. But I wasn't allowed to upgrade > to (eg) postgresql for silly reasons which I forget now. Your PHBastard called in a $200k/month Oracle DBA and you walked after the weekend to find your roo

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At 22:19 28/03/2001, Dave Cross wrote: >At 21:24 28/03/2001, Simon wrote: >>On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: >> > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest >> > problems with Perl work in london, >> >>http://www.tekmetrics.com/ aka brainbench

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: > >http://www.tekmetrics.com/ aka brainbench seems to still be going > >strong. > > And last time I looked, they claimed I was the best Perl programmer in > London. Don't expect that to change soon either - as they've just started > charging for tests. well I j

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:26:38PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > (my pseudo-transaction scheme for MySQL is basically : .. do this and > return a closure to undo it if I to .. bung the closures in an array .. > if something screws up then back it all off by walking along the array > and executing

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:19:05PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > gellyfish@orpheus gellyfish]$ python -v > > > > Python 1.5.2 (#1, Aug 25 2000, 09:33:37) [GCC 2.96 2731 > (experimental)] on linux-i386 > Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam Python 1.5.2 (#0, Apr

Re: Certifiable ( was Re: Job: I'm looking for one.. )

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At 21:57 28/03/2001, you wrote: >On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:19:55PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > London. Don't expect that to change soon either - as they've just started > charging for tests. Perhaps the Perl community should have an online certification program that funnels cash into the Conway Coffers? :-) No, wait, that migh

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:07:42PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > .. or the anchor! > > Where is the Anchor ? If its near LB station I'll be very up for it. Oh, it's *very* near London Bridge. It would be the ideal venue. It has nice

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > At 18:52 28/03/2001, you wrote: > >Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and > >they say they're booked out next Thursday. > > OK. Looks like it's back to the PO next Thursday then people. > I like the sound of The Anchor myself - her

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > If I see a sensible plan for certification, this sounds sensible, but > consider what most people think of eg. MCSEs. *We* may look down on the qualification, cos we know it's worthless just like most other qualifications, a

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready > > for the way of the heretic. We must consider them - they are the > > sheep that may prefer their 2 half pints

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At 21:24 28/03/2001, you wrote: >On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest > > problems with Perl work in london, > >Are employers there too stupid to read CVs? Or too lazy? Or is >there some other benefit

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At 20:47 28/03/2001, you wrote: >* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest > > > problems with Perl work in london, coming from the other side of > > > things. > > > > Hmm. I wonder how we could go about fixing that. >

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At 18:52 28/03/2001, you wrote: >Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and >they say they're booked out next Thursday. OK. Looks like it's back to the PO next Thursday then people. Dave... -- SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data Munging with Perl

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:04:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready > for the way of the heretic. We must consider them - they are the > sheep that may prefer their 2 half pints of lager shandy in PO, and!, > and if they are expos

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: > > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to > > () - > > Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists > n

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Benson
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:04:05PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: > > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to > > () - > > Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists >

Re: Certifiable ( was Re: Job: I'm looking for one.. )

2001-03-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:57:45PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: > Maybe I should start a mailing list for discussion of this stuff tomorrow > - thoughts ? Sounds a good idea. We're also happy to host it, if you want. -- "Irrigation of the land with seawater desalinated by fusion power is ancien

Certifiable ( was Re: Job: I'm looking for one.. )

2001-03-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > I suggest (with Dave Cros

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Simon Cozens wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > > If I see a sensible plan for certification, this sounds sensible, but > > consider what most people think of eg. MCSEs. > That's mainly due to the M rather than the C. OK, well som

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 09:05:43PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > If I see a sensible plan for certification, this sounds sensible, but > consider what most people think of eg. MCSEs. That's mainly due to the M rather than the C. -- She said that she was working for the ABC News, It was a

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Benson
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:16:01PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: > > The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but- > > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to > > () -

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:08:00PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > Can Perl do distributed database transactions? > > > > probably .. simple multi threaded app, fork a few child processes, > > establish the odd DB

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > TIMTOWTDI kind of screws things up. Different people will code in > > different styles. How can you evaluate this? > it doesn't matter how they achieve most things, as long as they can > do them ...

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest > problems with Perl work in london, Are employers there too stupid to read CVs? Or too lazy? Or is there some other benefit certification bestows besides having yo

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:51:10PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote: > I think that's what Paul was talking about. He can correct me > if I'm wrong :-) Exactly what I meant :-) And Java's a whole lot better for this than COBOL, C, and other things that make you go "blech". J2EE is horribly bloated but

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Leon Brocard
Michael Stevens sent the following bits through the ether: > Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and > they say they're booked out next Thursday. Michael, you're *useless*! The only reason I haven't got the weekly summary out yet is because of you being so useless. It has

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and > > > they say they're booked out next Thursday. > > > > > > > ok it looks like PO > > >

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we > > > > form the London.pm certi

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Devers
At 12:04 PM 28.3.2001 -0800, you wrote: >Anyway, the whole 'numbers' thing is long over due to be replaced by >those new fangled 'letters'. Works for DNS... Yeah, exactly. We're already partly there, sort of. I don't know the phone numbers of any of the people I call at all regularly (i.e. more

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and > > they say they're booked out next Thursday. > > > > ok it looks like PO > > .. or the anchor! > Where is the Anchor ? If its ne

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest > > > problems with Perl work in london, coming from the other side of > > > things. > > > > Hmm. I wonder how we could go about fi

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: > it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to > () - Twelve and eight digit phone numbers? So phalanxes of psychologists noting that the human brain has the magic number seven genetically imprint

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we > > > form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will > > > sign up to teac

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > ok it looks like PO > > > > .. or the anchor! > > Anchor! Anchor! Anchor! > Hush now brother, contain thy enthusiasm, others are still not ready for the way of the heret

Re: JOB: Symbian

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Jonathan Stowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Anyone interested in this should contact Dave Jobling directly on > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > And you'll get to work just a couple of yards from m

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we > > form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will > > sign up to teach to a given level of skills (or several levels). >

Re: JOB: Symbian

2001-03-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Anyone interested in this should contact Dave Jobling directly on > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > And you'll get to work just a couple of yards from me! > 'nuff said . /J\

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:48:05PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > ok it looks like PO > > .. or the anchor! Anchor! Anchor! Anchor! -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I r

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:08:00PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > Can Perl do distributed database transactions? > > probably .. simple multi threaded app, fork a few child processes, > establish the odd DBI connection, execute a query each return wh

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:47:03PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > I suggest (with Dave Cross' blessing), that we > form the London.pm certification. NetThink and Iterative will > sign up to teach to a given level of skills (or several levels). Fuck it. Let's do it. -- Only two things are infin

Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Ok, I'm useless, but I've just been to talk to the Cittie, and > they say they're booked out next Thursday. > ok it looks like PO .. or the anchor! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:08:59PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > > I reckon interperability is big, and that XML-RPC (or possibly even > > SOAP) will change the way we work. There's no point writing everything > > in one language or environment any more

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Simon Cozens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest > > problems with Perl work in london, coming from the other side of > > things. > > Hmm. I wonder how we could go about fixing that. > My favourite solution in business when you

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Paul Makepeace ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:10:00PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > Plain and simply I don't think java is the right technology for > > e-commerce, plain and simple. > > Why not? > > Can Perl do distributed database transactions? Can you write stored

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:10:00PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote: > > Plain and simply I don't think java is the right technology for > > e-commerce, plain and simple. > > Why not? > > Can Perl do distributed database transactions? probably .. simple multi thread

Re: yapc::Europe::19101?

2001-03-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Philip Newton wrote: > > I'll try the yapc-europe list and see what happens. > The rest, as they say, is history :) /J\

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 07:28:31PM +0100, Chris Benson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: > > > > There must have been *some* way Oftel could have made something similar > > work here. > > The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but- >

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Benson
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:04:34AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: > > the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is > > something of a mystery to me... > > Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Simon Cozens
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:58:36PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > It's not just that, if a software house wants to support a languages > interaction with its product, where does it go for Perl? P5P? CLPM? NetThink? :) > Also i think the lack of Perl certification, is one of the biggest > problem

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:10:00PM +0100, Aaron Trevena wrote: > Plain and simply I don't think java is the right technology for > e-commerce, plain and simple. Why not? Can Perl do distributed database transactions? Can you write stored procedures in Perl? For Oracle? (<-- the database most oft

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Benson
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 03:29:21PM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: > > There must have been *some* way Oftel could have made something similar > work here. The people in uk.telecom were suggesting a one-off-this-will-hurt-but- it'll-only-happen-once change where the entire country moved to (XX

Re: Mac OS X (was Re: mmm ... toys ..)

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 08:05:18AM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 04:11:13PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > I don't suppose anyone else chose 'root' as their primary account > > name during install? > > > > I did and am wondering if this is why my OS X installation is totally

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:08:59PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > I reckon interperability is big, and that XML-RPC (or possibly even > SOAP) will change the way we work. There's no point writing everything > in one language or environment any more. Microsoft may have understood > this with .NET. Di

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:52:23AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:44:07 +0100, Robin Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > > > Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk > > > proposes

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 06:35:56PM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > I thought it had a purpose as a sort of control character for the phone companies, >with any number beginning with a 0 or 1 having special meaning. I guess that special >meaning evaporates under 10 digit schemes... I think you're r

Re: ISO8601 [was] Re: Pointless, Badly-Written Module.

2001-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:09:50PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: > the fuckwits at Oftel lumbered us with 01[78]1 in the first place is > something of a mystery to me... Was it Oftel that made that choice or BT? I was assumed it was the lumbering ineptitude of The World's Most Evil Phone Company (to

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Robin Houston wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > > > I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from > > Java to make it useable for web content delivery as far as I can tell. > > > > I just couldn't do half o

Re: Hello?

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 28/3/01 5:47 pm, Chris Heathcote wrote: > BUGGER bugger wrong list ... can we copy with *two* Perl lists? ;) c. -- every day, computers are making people easier to use http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com

Re: Archive::Zip

2001-03-28 Thread Jon Galliers
cheers, sorted >Try something like: > > use strict; > use Archive::Zip qw( :ERROR_CODES :CONSTANTS ); > > my $zip = Archive::Zip->new(); > my $member = $zip->addFile("boris.pl"); > $member->desiredCompressionLevel(9); > $zip->writeToFileNamed("boris.zip") == AZ_OK or die "Zip write

Re: JOB: Symbian

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Anyone interested in this should contact Dave Jobling directly on > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > And you'll get to work just a couple of yards from me! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:44:07 +0100, Robin Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk > > proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :) > > What does it do?

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:37:14PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > > David H. Adler wrote: > > > What, no CiP rating??? > > > > Well, there wasn't any Perl code included. But it should be pretty > > straightforward to hack the algorithm together, or mig

Re: Hello?

2001-03-28 Thread Chris Heathcote
on 28/3/01 5:20 pm, Michael G Schwern wrote: >> My vote for this years shirt is"Perl DeBuggered!" > > Sign me up for two! Heh, I'd like them to say PERL DEBUGGER ;) c. -- every day, computers are making people easier to use http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com

JOB: Symbian

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
Anyone interested in this should contact Dave Jobling directly on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave... At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:41:58 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Job title: Tools and processes software engineer. > > Where: Tools and Processes Team, System Documentation group, Symbian. > We're just

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:38:16 +0100 (BST), Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk > > > proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Appro

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk > proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :) What does it do? .robin. -- Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas!

Re: yapc::Europe::19101?

2001-03-28 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether: > > > Has anyone else heard anything about yapc::Europe::19101? > > No. Yes. Maybe? ;-) > > Well, you'll all be happy to know that we're resurrecting the old > yapc::Europe mailing list[1] to gi

Re: yapc::Europe::19101 (now Archive::Zip)

2001-03-28 Thread Greg Tod
Jon Galliers wrote: > > I have a real fear that this is a really stupid question, however I'm > having real problems using Archive::Zip. Try something like: use strict; use Archive::Zip qw( :ERROR_CODES :CONSTANTS ); my $zip = Archive::Zip->new(); my $member = $zip->addFile("boris.pl")

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:38:16 +0100 (BST), Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk > > proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :) > > You are an evil man. You know

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > Would this be an appropriate time to point out that my TPC talk > proposes the creation of a Parse::Perl::Approx module :) You are an evil man. MBM -- Matthew Byng-Maddick Home: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +44 20 8980 5714 (Home) http://colondot.net/ Wo

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread Dave Cross
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:33:16 -0500, "David H. Adler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:37:14PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > > David H. Adler wrote: > > > What, no CiP rating??? > > > > Well, there wasn't any Perl code included. But it should be pretty > > straightforward to

Re: Buffycode (was Re: "That book")

2001-03-28 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:37:14PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > David H. Adler wrote: > > What, no CiP rating??? > > Well, there wasn't any Perl code included. But it should be pretty > straightforward to hack the algorithm together, or might as well hijack the > Convert::Base32 module for the p

Fwd: Re: yapc::Europe::19101?

2001-03-28 Thread Jon Galliers
I have a real fear that this is a really stupid question, however I'm having real problems using Archive::Zip. All I'm trying to do is running a test script which will create a zip file (called 'download.zip') containing a small text file ('test.txt'). Could anyone point me in the right direct

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg Cope
Robin Szemeti wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > > > > > I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from > > > Java to make it useable for web content delivery as far as I can tell. > > > > > >

Re: yapc::Europe::19101?

2001-03-28 Thread Leon Brocard
Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether: > Has anyone else heard anything about yapc::Europe::19101? No. Yes. Maybe? ;-) Well, you'll all be happy to know that we're resurrecting the old yapc::Europe mailing list[1] to give everyone a better idea of what's going on. Planning is

Re: yapc::Europe::19101?

2001-03-28 Thread Philip Newton
Dave Cross wrote: > At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:38:51 +0200, Philip Newton > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Has anyone else heard anything about yapc::Europe::19101? > > Yeah. Dates and venues and stuff have been announced. And there was > a CFP. It's all on . I know. T

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, you wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:23:01PM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > > > I concur. There is simply too much of the important stuff missing from > > Java to make it useable for web content delivery as far as I can tell. > > > > I just couldn't do half of what I do

Re: Job: I'm looking for one..

2001-03-28 Thread Greg Cope
Robin Houston wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:59:40PM +, Greg Cope wrote: > > I was thinking about this the otherday - can you recommend some (pref > > open source) Java regex libs ? > > OROMatcher. > http://jakarta.apache.org/oro/index.html > > There's also gnu.regexp, for LGPL fans:

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