* at 03/07 21:01 +0100 Chris Benson said:
>
> 2. By Linux I assume you mean Linux/ix86 ... I've been trying to get
> an app running on Linux/PPC for a few weeks on-and-off: I'm definately a
> 2nd-class citizen. I wonder how the Linux/MIPS, Linux/ARM, Linux/390
> people get on!
heck, i have en
At 17:36 03/07/01 +0100, you wrote:
>On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 05:12:45PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 04:54:01PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > > My big beef with Java is that having *forced* you into an OO model
> > > (something recognised both by Perl and C++ a
Has anyone had experience with Midgard? (http://www.midgard-project.org/)
Aty first glance it looks pretty good.
Andy Williams
http://www.lampsolutions.co.uk
"Pub... a meeting place where people attempt to achieve an
advanced state of
Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is more than can be said for MySQL with the horror that is MyISAM.
So don't do it - use one of the three other schemes that pretend to
have locking...
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chi
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 10:24:52AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > This is more than can be said for MySQL with the horror that is MyISAM.
> So don't do it - use one of the three other schemes that pretend to
> have locking...
Indeed, but most
Robin Szemeti wrote:
> again, its a while ago I looked at this stuff .. wasn;t there supposed to
> be a ssl-a-like that was going to be a standard and in the next
> generation of phone ??
Yes, called WTLS which is a crippled version of TLS which is in turn a
kind of weakened SSL.
I spent nearly
Andy Williams wrote:
>
> Has anyone had experience with Midgard? (http://www.midgard-project.org/)
>
> Aty first glance it looks pretty good.
Apart from being written in PHP ?
You might have a look at Open Interact which is perl based.
www.openinteract.org
I haven't used it so can't say if i
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote:
> You might have a look at Open Interact which is perl based.
> www.openinteract.org
For some reason I've never been able to install it Maybe one more
try...
Andy
Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I was waiting for you to say this. :-)
You an Linux expo on Thursday?
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Interim CTO, web
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I spent nearly three weeks in Toronto working on it during February
> having been pimped out to a company called Certicom who, AFAIK, worked
> on the reference version with RSA.
Hey, Toronto rocks!
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Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Hey, Toronto rocks!
Unfortunatley I was staying in Mississauga which basically an industrial
estate outside Toronto. And it was fricking freezing.
I stayed up for the first 48 hours I was there and by the end of it I
thought I was a humming bird.
http://www.twoshortpl
We probably could have a special London PM meet there!
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Hodgkinson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 July 2001 11:17
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Divorcing data storage from business logic
>
> Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
On 4 Jul 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> You an Linux expo on Thursday?
Gah. No bloody students. Like I'm not one of the resident informaticists
and have no say whatsoever in the products my department uses...
Still, it leaves more time for the consumption of cold beverages. Tho' my
attendan
On 3 Jul 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:
> Will be the first evening of YAPC::Europe. If no other pub has yet
> been recommended, may I commend Inn de Wildeman on Nieuwezijds Kolk to
> the company?
Is anyone *not* going to YAPC? Does anyone want to gather at the Great
British Beer Festival instead (
* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> [1] The Tomorrow's World live event was rather shiny. Lots of toys,
> including Steve Bennett's 10 metre rocket.
>
I wonder if we could persuade Steve Bennett to become an honourary
member of London.pm - he is just the sort of loon that would fit
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:53:08PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> Is anyone *not* going to YAPC?
Yes.
> Does anyone want to gather at the Great
> British Beer Festival instead (www.gbbf.org)?
Yes, but I'm moving house that weekend.
Alex
--
"Four pints of milk, a turkey baster and some plasti
On or about Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:53:08PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam typed:
>Is anyone *not* going to YAPC?
Yes.
>Does anyone want to gather at the Great
>British Beer Festival instead (www.gbbf.org)?
I shall certainly be there on the Thursday evening (Dutch beer tasting
6.30-7.30).
Roger
* at 04/07 13:02 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
> * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > [1] The Tomorrow's World live event was rather shiny. Lots of toys,
> > including Steve Bennett's 10 metre rocket.
> >
>
> I wonder if we could persuade Steve Bennett to become an honourary
> memb
On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> On 4 Jul 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> > You an Linux expo on Thursday?
I'll be there .. are we all gonna try and meet up at luncheon time for a
swift glass of some cool refreshment?
if so .. when where ? ..
> [1] The Tomorrow's World live even
From: "Robin Szemeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > [1] The Tomorrow's World live event was rather shiny. Lots of toys,
> > including Steve Bennett's 10 metre rocket.
>
> its a pity that what was once a reasonably serious and informative
> programme has now been dumbed down so far that there is more te
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> On 4 Jul 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> > You an Linux expo on Thursday?
>
> Gah. No bloody students. Like I'm not one of the resident informaticists
> and have no say whatsoever in the products my department uses...
IIRC from last year they really
Chris Benson wrote:
> DBI uses 'OEO' to mean 0-but-true.
I think "0E0" (zero E zero) not "OEO" (oh E oh) as you wrote :)
Cheers,
Philip
--
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
All opinions are my own, not my employer's.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
From: Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 1:54 PM
> More to the point, I can't see anyone actually wanting to give their real
> details after the large quantity of cold calls and spam (both electronic
> and paper) that I received after attending in the past.
OK. I was
Cross David - dcross wrote:
>
> From: Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 1:54 PM
>
> > More to the point, I can't see anyone actually wanting to give their real
> > details after the large quantity of cold calls and spam (both electronic
> > and paper) that I receiv
>
> OK. I was foolish enough to give them my real details, but that doesn't seem
> to help them much. I just received some spam from them - addressed to Mr.
> Osborne.
No, *I'm* Mr. Osborne...
Cross David - dcross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>... I just received some spam from them - addressed to Mr. Osborne.
You too, huh?
Ian
_
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
And I've yet to receive anything from them - including a badge!
> -Original Message-
> From: Cross David - dcross [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 July 2001 15:41
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: LinuxExpo/Social
>
> From: Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesd
> > OK. I was foolish enough to give them my real details, but that doesn't seem
> > to help them much. I just received some spam from them - addressed to Mr.
> > Osborne.
>
> No, *I'm* Mr. Osborne...
No! *I* am Mr Osborne...!
On or about Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 04:20:19PM +0100, Lee Goddard typed:
>> > OK. I was foolish enough to give them my real details, but that doesn't seem
>> > to help them much. I just received some spam from them - addressed to Mr.
>> > Osborne.
>> No, *I'm* Mr. Osborne...
>No! *I* am Mr Osborne
Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 04 Jul 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > On 4 Jul 2001, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> >
> > > You an Linux expo on Thursday?
>
> I'll be there .. are we all gonna try and meet up at luncheon time for a
> swift glass of some cool refreshment?
>
> i
Richard Clyne sent the following bits through the ether:
> And I've yet to receive anything from them - including a badge!
I got a nice email from them, addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-)
Leon
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Iterative Software...http:
> At 17:36 03/07/01 +0100, you wrote:
Could people please configure their mail readers to attribute correctly?
I.e. at least include the full name of the person replying. I think this
mostly applies to people using Eudora?
(Is there a "go to message to whom this is a reply" command in mutt? I
ha
the walkers are walking this saturday, the 7th of july! here is the plan:
meet at 10:30am at little venice. anyone know a particular landmark that
we can stand next to?
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?grid2map?x=526250&y=181750&zoom=1&isp=187&ism=500&arrow=y?73,59
contact number: 07
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 04:54:01PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> My big beef with Java is that having *forced* you into an OO model
> (something recognised both by Perl and C++ as being bad), its own
> language primitives aren't in fact objects.
In practice (i.e. aesthetic considerations a
* Richard Clyne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> And I've yet to receive anything from them - including a badge!
>
it's a shame they haven't got those out yet, apparently the
printer gave them a really good deal as long as every badge
had the same text,
Mr Osbourne
--
Mr Osbourne
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 11:57:53PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> Erm DB3 does transaction locks. All of the DBM routines have used locking
> and hence concurrency has not been an issue.
The issue isn't whether you have it or not but whether they render the
thing useless when 'n' instances
by the way, it's a canal walk, along regents canal.
alex
OK, I've been banging my head against the wall here, and I've
got conflicting answers on IRC, so I thought I'd ask a question
which'll probably start a flamewar, distracting me from the
problem at hand *g*
I have a project. The details don't really matter (it's a
bug tracking system for hardware
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:41:06 -0400, Alex Page wrote:
> However, I'm trying to future-proof on this project, so
> I'd like some optional backend modules which can be swapped
> in by changing a single configuration line - for example,
> using an LDAP server instead of a database table for user
> pass
On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 08:39:07PM +, Steve Mynott wrote:
> Chris Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 2. By Linux I assume you mean Linux/ix86 ... I've been trying to get
> > an app running on Linux/PPC for a few weeks on-and-off: I'm definately a
> > 2nd-class citizen. I wonder how the
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 04:24:36PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
> Chris Benson wrote:
> > DBI uses 'OEO' to mean 0-but-true.
>
> I think "0E0" (zero E zero) not "OEO" (oh E oh) as you wrote :)
'gonna have to fix the fonts in Konsole ... oh, and get my brain-hand
co-ordination sorted :-)
--
Chris
Chris Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If it can be done for fine languages like find, sed and awk why not Java??
cf2tt
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Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Interim CTO, w
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 09:09:48AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 04:54:01PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > My big beef with Java is that having *forced* you into an OO model
> > (something recognised both by Perl and C++ as being bad), its own
> > language primitiv
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 09:22:37AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 11:57:53PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > Erm DB3 does transaction locks. All of the DBM routines have used locking
> > and hence concurrency has not been an issue.
>
> The issue isn't whether you ha
is there anything like cafepress (http://www.cafepress.com/)
in the uk?
--
Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 08:56:28PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> is there anything like cafepress (http://www.cafepress.com/)
> in the uk?
>
Muttley's T-shirt Printer? :-)
Neil.
--
Neil C. Ford
Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What would be represent half an hours down time with a sensible system is
> going to take all day with MySQL - WHY DO PEOPLE DO IT ?
Oh bollocks, you haven't thought hard enough about it.
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.h
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > [1] The Tomorrow's World live event was rather shiny. Lots of toys,
> > including Steve Bennett's 10 metre rocket.
>
> I wonder if we could persuade Steve Bennett to become an honourary
> member of L
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Roger Burton West wrote:
> On or about Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:53:08PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam typed:
>
> >Does anyone want to gather at the Great British Beer Festival instead
>
> I shall certainly be there on the Thursday evening (Dutch beer tasting
> 6.30-7.30).
I'll be wor
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:53:08 +0100 (BST)
Lucy McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 3 Jul 2001, Piers Cawley wrote:
>
> > Will be the first evening of YAPC::Europe. If no other pub has yet
> > been recommended, may I commend Inn de Wildeman on Nieuwezijds Kolk to
> > the company?
>
> Is
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