Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:01:41PM -0700, Randy J. Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I've had precious little "free time" for ages. I've got an outline for a > second book, an advanced-topics follow-up to my web services book (did > anyone ever review that here? I'll want to link to it on the b

Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Earle Martin
Like most people, I hate spam. I hate it even more when I'm at home recovering from being sick and skimming through my inbox. So, when I received the following (bowdlerised for the archives): > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: REPORT SUBMITTED REGARDING: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: text'd or texted

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:48:59AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 04:02:23 -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Welcome to English where any noun can be verbed :) Also popular is 'to > > SMS' or 'to be SMS-ed'. > > Surely that's just a smidgeon to close t

Re: Pollution and Inheritance

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 01:02:03PM +0100, Shevek wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote: > > And have Some::Module::Extended pretend to be Some::Module as far as any > > other calls in the application (like those from Some::DifferentModule) > > are concerned. > > > > Thoughts? > > pac

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that perl papered over this idiosyncracy for you, but try > resetting the signal handler and see if it works: Hmmm, according to perlvar(1), signal handlers are only installed using sigaction if it's present. So there you go, you might well

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Benson
On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:28:13AM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: > > It prompted me to take five minutes and write this. It's not very efficient > (why use a different prefix and suffix? I dunno, I just felt like it), but I > like it. At time of speaking it's been running for, oh, about 15 minutes. I

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross
From: Alex McLintock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 8/7/03 8:14:36 AM > Please remember that spammers often use other people's > identities when posting spam - please be careful about who > you are taking action against. > > Cheers > > (I've had spammers use my email address as the from field > more

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Ford
Solaris 2.8 Andy On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 15:33, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought that perl papered over this idiosyncracy for you, but try > > resetting the signal handler and see if it works: > > Hmmm, according to perlvar(1), signal handlers are

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross
From: Damon Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 8/6/03 2:50:21 PM > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 16:38, Dave Cross wrote: >> I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do >> actually like to think that Perl discussion is encouraged >> here. > > Didn't Gabor Szabo mention at YAPC::Europe that e

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 04:29:42PM +0100, Paul Golds wrote: > > Naturally I skip over such posts anyway, nasty little things. Hopping around, eating carrots. Ben

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg McCarroll
* the hatter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, James Campbell wrote: > > > Humble appologies > > Why's it OT, is he doing it in perl ? > i'm not sure that Perl was ever considered OT, its just that it made up a smaller percentage than one might expect for a Perl related list. G.

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: > Shouldn't something like this go onto CPAN - a module to generate random > e-mail addresses that do not exist. How do you know that the email addresses will never exist? A much better plan would be to create email addresses in a domain that we control.

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Lusercop
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 07:38:09AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: > I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like > to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here. I feel that "like to think" is the important phrase in that sentence. -- Lusercop.net - LARTing Lusers everywhere sin

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Jon Reades
the hatter wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Wechsler wrote: darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: *>I assume you mean Leon[0][1]. Actually, no, but now that you mention it:) Stacked footnotes, or does he now come as a multidimensional array? Depends what you're trying to store in him, I'd g

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread James Campbell
>> > Humble appologies >> >> Why's it OT, is he doing it in perl ? >> > >i'm not sure that Perl was ever considered OT, its just that it made >up a smaller percentage than one might expect for a Perl related >list. To clarify my first e-mail; this VR experiment has absolutely nothing to do with

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Wechsler wrote: > Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: > > > darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: > > *>I assume you mean Leon[0][1]. > > > > Actually, no, but now that you mention it:) > > Stacked footnotes, or does he now come as a multidimensional array? Depends what you'r

Re: [OT] Perl and other stuff on a CD

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > I came across this crowd: > > http://www.indigostar.com/ I haven't used the software, but I met Indy (who is indigostar) at this year's YAPC::NA. He was going around the pool and giving people beer which Was A Nice Thing To Do. This is my extent of

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Sergeant
> > http://grou.ch/bounce.txt > I had been thinking of using Mail::DeliveryStatus::BounceParser. > Wonderful that CPAN thing, eh? Further to discussions with Leon on IRC... Mail::DeliveryStatus::BounceParser doesn't fill this niche. It is, in fact, a tool for people writing mailing-list software

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:08:23PM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote: > On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > > Shouldn't something like this go onto CPAN - a module to generate random > > e-mail addresses that do not exist. > > How do you know that the email addresses will never exist? A much be

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:00:48AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: > > >Please remember that spammers often use other people's identities > >when posting spam - please be careful about who you are taking action > >against. > > I second this. It is probably a bad idea. There are literally hundreds > o

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Lusercop
On Sun, Aug 10, 2003 at 09:42:31PM +0100, Peter Sergeant wrote: > > My personal feeling is that whatever comes and replaces SMTP has to > > insist that certain information be guaranteed - for example, if > > smtp.foo.com wants to send an email which has From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], then > > smtp.foo.co

Re: [JOB] Security in Amsterdam

2003-08-14 Thread Shevek
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Leon Brocard wrote: > The Canon Security Group based at Canon Europa NV in Amstelveen > (Amsterdam) is currently recruiting a Security Analyst. Aww shit. This is my ideal job. And I'm not going to apply. I suppose I could chase them up in a year or two. S. -- Shevek

Re: [JOB] Java dev @ Kizoom

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 12:43:33PM +0100, Steve Purkis wrote: > Not exactly a Perl role, but then I suppose that makes this more or > less on topic for this list ;-). > > Kizoom are looking for a Java developer with a minimum of 3 years > recent experience to join their team to do s/w developmen

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Shevek
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Mark Fowler wrote: > I have this: > >[ [ 1, 2, 3, ], > [ 5, 6, 7, ], ] > > And I want this: > >[ [ 1, 5, ], > [ 2, 6, ], > [ 3, 7, ], ] > > How do I do that? I mean, I can write this code: Use APL. Alternatively, something like: map { my $a = $_;

Setting an Apache handler for a CGI script with no name extension

2003-08-14 Thread Earle Martin
I have a script, let's call it test-script, that I'd like to run as CGI without it having a ".cgi" or ".pl" in its name, so it can masquerade as a directory and I can do nice things like http://example.com/test-script/some/fake/location/ . I don't have r00t on the box where this is happening, so

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Dan Brook wrote: > If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple Interesting. Is there something like this on the CPAN? It's a bit hard to put a page from perlmonks into a PREREQ_PM Mark. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTE

Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
Grab, contribute, or patch your Open Source HTML templates here, http://www.oswd.org/ Very cool! Paul -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ "If everyone could fly, then I am a girl." -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Brook
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:23:41 +0100 (BST) Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Dan Brook wrote: > > > If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple > > Interesting. Is there something like this on the CPAN? It's a bit > hard to put a page from perlmonks into a PREREQ_PM

Re: [JOB] Yahoo! News (in California)

2003-08-14 Thread Brian Wisti
Paul Makepeace wrote: It particularly amuses me hearing this kind of nonsense in places with a large immigrant population cleaning streets and basically doing all the shit jobs no right-thinking middle class whitey would consider. } x 2; # UK too Well, I've worked a lot of those shit jobs right

Re: Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Lester
That's a fun site to wander about in. Just be sure not to let your fingers get confused and type in http://www.owsd.org/ - the home page of the "Outdoor Women of South Dakota". I think I got spam for them the other day. "NATURE-LOVING HOTTIES FROM THE PLAINS STATES DO IT ALL FOR YOU!" -- Andy

Re: Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Brian Wisti
Paul Makepeace wrote: Grab, contribute, or patch your Open Source HTML templates here, http://www.oswd.org/ Very cool! Paul That's a fun site to wander about in. Just be sure not to let your fingers get confused and type in http://www.owsd.org/ - the home page of the "Outdoor Women of South

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Mark Fowler wrote: > On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > > I'm not convinced that it's a great idea to sit it in a top level > > namespace. Is it about cartography? Or data manipulation? > > List::Maptastic? The function in question does matrix rotation -- that's m

Re: [JOB] Yahoo! News (in California)

2003-08-14 Thread Werm
Besides, if America didn't have a president with "the worst fiscal policy in 200yrs"[1]... Paul [1] pop quiz: who recently said this? Al Gore? N

Re: OT: Can't declare subtraction

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Jarvis
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:00:48PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 05:13:25PM -0400, Mike Jarvis wrote: > > Ok, so I've got an odd problem. Program compiles and runs just fine > > on my machine with 5.8, upload it to the ISP's machine (BSD > > with 5.005.03) and I get a comp

Re: Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: *> *>"NATURE-LOVING HOTTIES FROM THE PLAINS STATES DO IT ALL FOR YOU!" You should ask if they do web design as well :) e.

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Okay, fine, not silent at all, but definitely not 'phonetic' either. N Michel Rodriguez wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Nigel Rantor wrote: Hmm, except there are some things that are silent when they would normally be pronounced. J's for example as in jose, and jamon. Huh? Are you thinking abou

Re: OT: Can't declare subtraction

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 05:13:25PM -0400, Mike Jarvis wrote: > Ok, so I've got an odd problem. Program compiles and runs just fine > on my machine with 5.8, upload it to the ISP's machine (BSD > with 5.005.03) and I get a compile error. It's a huge PITA to get > the error, since I don't have shell

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread alex
> > What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got > > a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning > > something outside IT / planning to do something like this? > i'm getting my butt kicked at diplomacy (by the devious mr wistow, damn his norwegian campaign).

Re: OT: Can't declare subtraction

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 05:13:25PM -0400, Mike Jarvis wrote: > Ok, so I've got an odd problem. Program compiles and runs just fine > on my machine with 5.8, upload it to the ISP's machine (BSD > with 5.005.03) and I get a compile error. It's a huge PITA to get > the error, since I don't have shell

Re: [JOB] Yahoo! News (in California)

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:33:45PM -0700, Brian Wisti wrote: > Not to mention that I'm starting to see a few IT workers in the US > complain about jobs being "stolen by foreigners". Not entirely sure who qq{Pay no attention - they are ignorant about their own country's history, and how their co

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Michel Rodriguez
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Nigel Rantor wrote: > Hmm, except there are some things that are silent when they would > normally be pronounced. J's for example as in jose, and jamon. Huh? Are you thinking about Latin-American Spanish? Or some regional accent? Latin-Americans pronounce the 'J' very much li

Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Ivor Williams
Just to continue the exuberance we had in Paris, how about a party to celebrate Siesta? Maybe when a certain milestone is complete. Maybe when the london.pm list moves onto siesta. I don't have an occasion. I don't have a date. But I do have a venue: http://openguides.org/london/index.cgi?Acapu

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Top posting. Undertrimming. Oneliners. Abuse of asterisks. Top posting as in 'great' or 'on top of others rather than underneath'? If the former then cool, otherwise please realise that top posting is The One True Way(tm) for short posts...otherwise I agree, snip and insert. On the undertrim

[OT] Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Nicholas, consider me slapped, sorry. Off topic, anyone know any perl libs with less-than-primitive drawing routines for splines, arcs, and transformations? N p.s. NSPCA was a joke referring to asterisks, I'd hoped not to have to point that out

Re: Bra

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Andrew Savige sent the following bits through the ether: > Just wondering if Leon has yet received delivery of the goods he > successfully bid for at the YAPC::Europe auction. I'm eager to see > any photos of said goods (just for my ascii art collection, you see). The goods have indeed arrived. I

Re: Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Merijn Broeren
Quoting Joel Bernstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:17:42AM -0700, Brian Wisti wrote: > > the "Outdoor Women of South Dakota". > > I was *convinced* that had to be something nudist. I'm still boggling > that it *isn't*. How do they choose these names? Doesn't somebody point >

Re: [JOB] Yahoo! News (in California)

2003-08-14 Thread Brian Wisti
Paul Makepeace wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:58:44PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: Any success actually having a H1B granted? I know some people are interested in, or know peole interested in work in the US: News just in from my visa lawyers: the H1-B cap is being reduced very shortly b

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
At 12:57 +0100 8/14/03, Lusercop wrote: .sdrawkcab kniht t'nod I sa ,siht gniod elbuort dah I ...dnatsrednu dna daer nac eh yaw a ni egassem siht dettamrof ev'I ,legiN fo ruonoh nI Hmmm... PerlIO::via::bac

talking of arrays....

2003-08-14 Thread alex
I was just wondering why this: @m=([(_)x10])x5; $m[1][2]=o; for $y (0..4) { for $x (0..9) { print "$m[$y][$x]"; } print " $y$/"; } produces this: __o___ 0 __o___ 1 __o___ 2 __o___ 3 __o___ 4 ? This is obviously not sensible code. basically looking for a golf-i

OT: Can't declare subtraction

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Jarvis
Ok, so I've got an odd problem. Program compiles and runs just fine on my machine with 5.8, upload it to the ISP's machine (BSD with 5.005.03) and I get a compile error. It's a huge PITA to get the error, since I don't have shell access, but the admins ran perl -c on it and sent me this: quasar#

Re: Less than primitive drawing routines

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Thanks Robin, I guess PDL is best-fit from that list although at the moment I can't see *exactly* what I need. I had a look on CPAN a few days ago but didn't catch it. Catmull-Rom spline generator would be nice, I have one in Perl but I was wondering if there was anything already out-there (an

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Randy J. Ray
On 2003.08.14 05:39 Ali Young wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: > What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got > a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning > something outside IT / planning to do something like this? My usual answer for that

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:54:03AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: > > Sorry, I'm a bit of a foodie. (AAnd if you like steak, then you should > go to the camden brasserie, but thats a whole NOTHER story...) Are you on london.food ? Ben

Re: [JOB] Yahoo! News (in California)

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:58:44PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Any success actually having a H1B granted? I know some people are interested in, or know peole interested in work in the US: News just in from my visa lawyers: the H1-B cap is being reduced very shortly back to pre- .com levels of 6

Re: Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:21:04PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: > It seems like if you can get an instance of Access running with the file, > you should be able to use ODBC to extract the data. Indeed, but that would require running Windows, obtaining a copy & license for Access, not to mention all

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:02:59PM +0100, Sam Vilain wrote: > > If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple > > Shortly to be released to CPAN as Maptastic, as soon as I figure out > the iteration semantics. > > Pre-release available at http://vilain.net/pm/Maptastic-0.99.tar.gz, > which ha

[JOB] Java dev @ Kizoom

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Purkis
Not exactly a Perl role, but then I suppose that makes this more or less on topic for this list ;-). Kizoom are looking for a Java developer with a minimum of 3 years recent experience to join their team to do s/w development for mobile devices. Solaris admin experience is a definite plus. Yo

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread Dean Wilson
Nicholas Clark wrote: >> with less than a couple of years hands on Linux experience and >> excellent read for anyone with them. Top notch. > How much (if any) of it Linux specific? > ie would most of it apply equally well to any free Unix system, such > as one of the *BSDs, or even commercial Unix

Re: Setting an Apache handler for a CGI script with no name extension

2003-08-14 Thread Scott McWhirter
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:00:53PM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: > I have a script, let's call it test-script, that I'd like to run as CGI > without it having a ".cgi" or ".pl" in its name, so it can masquerade as a > directory and I can do nice things like > > http://example.com/test-script/some/fak

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Chisel Wright wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:03:17PM +0200, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > Hmmm... PerlIO::via::backwards? > > Or (assuming vim as the mutt editor used): > > select lines, then !rev Or perhaps more accurately : %!rev %ri %!tac although using externa

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Hi, I'll answer the flambait off the list. Yes, other languages figure into my 'understanding of the world'. If I preface something with 'an English speaker' then I also expect you to understand my comment within this context. Sorry if you can't do that. Regards, N Dave Thorn wrote: On Th

Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
I have this: [ [ 1, 2, 3, ], [ 5, 6, 7, ], ] And I want this: [ [ 1, 5, ], [ 2, 6, ], [ 3, 7, ], ] How do I do that? I mean, I can write this code: sub reorder { my $new = []; foreach my $col_no (0..(@{ $_[0]->[0] } - 1)) { my $new_row = []; foreach my $row

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Eep. None of my business of course, but that place chongs for the lord. I am an NW3 resident and it sucketh arse like nobody's business. If you want mexican in town go to Cafe Pacifico in Covent Garden, best marguaritas (speelong?) ever. N - Born To Lurk Ivor Williams wrote: Just to continu

RE: [OT] Bananas

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Williams \(IMAP HILLWAY\)
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hodgkinson > Sent: 13 August 2003 15:02 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [OT] Bananas > > > You lot know I have an alter ego as Deep Purple's web slave, > and one or > two of > you even kn

Re: When is london.pm.org going to be in Esperanto?

2003-08-14 Thread Robin Berjon
Beyer Steffen (AE-DA/EFS3) wrote: Just out of curiosity: Is there already a time schedule for when the London.pm homepage will eventually be in Esperanto? Yes, and Paris.pm too! At this rate dahut.pm will have its page in Esperanto before any of you guys do. -- Robin Berjon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Rafael Garcia-Suarez sent the following bits through the ether: > Bechamel !~ Spanish food (Bechamel was a French cook, and > AFAIK he's one of the first persons to have his name attached > to a recipe.) He's unlikely to have created it of course: http://www.whatscookingamerica.net/History/Becham

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Sergeant
> My personal feeling is that whatever comes and replaces SMTP has to > insist that certain information be guaranteed - for example, if > smtp.foo.com wants to send an email which has From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], then > smtp.foo.com.can-relay.bar.com or something ought to point at > smtp.foo.com's IP a

Re: Setting an Apache handler for a CGI script with no name extension

2003-08-14 Thread Wechsler
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Earle Martin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:00:53PM +0100, I wrote: > > (I suppose it could be that mod_mime isn't loaded; how can I check if it > > is?) > > As has just been pointed out to me on IRC, I could read httpd.conf. So I > did, and it is being loaded. What doe

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Peter Sergeant sent the following bits through the ether: > http://grou.ch/bounce.txt I had been thinking of using Mail::DeliveryStatus::BounceParser. Wonderful that CPAN thing, eh? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/ scribot.h

[JOB] Security in Amsterdam

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Hi, below is the offical job advert, you can also address questions directly to at quentyn.taylor at canon-europe.com The Canon Security Group based at Canon Europa NV in Amstelveen (Amsterdam) is currently recruiting a Security Analyst. The candidate we search for will be a highly motivated IT

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread David Cantrell
Dean wrote: Which format does the person who does the hard work of turning these into web pages prefer? I've seen them as pod, XML and (In my case if no one else's) text. The preferred format is that which Brother Clark used a few days ago for his review of the Perl 6 book, but what you posted is

Re: [OT] Bananas

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 03:01:45PM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote: > http:/www.deep-purple.com/stream/ No Ogg. No banana. Bad Dave. P -- Paul Makepeace ... http://paulm.com/ "If if, then run like the wind!" -- http://paulm.com/toys/surrealism/

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
allright, allright, calm down rodders they also stock, alchohol that *ISN'T SPANISH EITHER*!!! Béchamel !~ Spanish food (Béchamel was a French cook, and AFAIK he's one of the first persons to have his name attached to a recipe.)

RE: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Robbie Scourou
> What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got > a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning > something outside IT / planning to do something like this? I am planning on taking a Film studies course. Eventually I want to become an out of work Director or Scr

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
> I think "margaritas" is what you're looking for. (me too! :) *yay* yep, thats the man, I must get a couple down me soonish... > The great thing about Spanish is that it's written exactly how it's > pronounced - if it sounds like an a, you write an 'a'. None of those > silent endings or weird

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Thorn
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:55:22AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: > If you look the original reply was to Steve who asserted that; > > > The great thing about Spanish is that it's written exactly how it's > > pronounced - if it sounds like an a, you write an 'a'. None of those > > silent endings or w

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Sam Vilain
If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple Shortly to be released to CPAN as Maptastic, as soon as I figure out the iteration semantics. Pre-release available at http://vilain.net/pm/Maptastic-0.99.tar.gz, which has mapcar and mapcaru in it. Feedback most welcome. [0] http://www.perlm

Re: Setting an Apache handler for a CGI script with no name extension

2003-08-14 Thread Phil Lanch
you probably solved this hours ago, but if not ... On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:44:57PM +0100, Wechsler wrote: > > What does the AllowOverride line look like? Will it let you make the > changes you want in .htaccess? good question. you can't use in .htaccess (ever!), so when you tried to, did y

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Brook
If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple use mapcar; use Data::Dumper; my $arrays= [ [1..3], [5..7] ]; my @reordered = mapcar { [EMAIL PROTECTED] } @$arrays; print Dumper([EMAIL PROTECTED]); __output__ $VAR1 = [ [ 1, 5 ], [

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread David Cantrell
Mark Fowler wrote: Evil Dave normally does this, and I don't think he's close to a net connection very often for the next couple of weeks. We have wireless and ISDN at the campsite! -- Lord Protector David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david One person can change the world, but most of

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Lusercop
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: > Was talking to Paul Makepeace about his recent studies in the world > of personal fitness, and started wondering. > What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got > a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are

Re: Pollution and Inheritance

2003-08-14 Thread Shevek
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote: > I'm writing a module, Some::Module::Extended, which is a sub-class of > Some::Module. There are two or three methods that I want > Some::Module::Extended to override - I want them to do some munging of [SNIP] > However, I'm also a big user of Some::Diff

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Damon Davison
Alle Thursday 14 August 2003 12:29, Nigel Rantor ha scritto: : Okay, fine, not silent at all, but definitely not 'phonetic' : either. The grapheme {j} in Spanish is pronouced more or less like the phone [h] in English (even in Latin America) and is perfectly phonetic. Maybe you were thinking of

When is london.pm.org going to be in Esperanto?

2003-08-14 Thread Beyer Steffen (AE-DA/EFS3)
Hi Greg, hi Leon, hi London.pm Perl Mongers! Just out of curiosity: Is there already a time schedule for when the London.pm homepage will eventually be in Esperanto? Thanks a lot in advance! Best regards, Steffen Beyer

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Dean wrote: > Which format does the person who does the hard work of turning these > into web pages prefer? I've seen them as pod, XML and (In my case if no > one else's) text. Evil Dave normally does this, and I don't think he's close to a net connection very often for the n

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Robin Berjon
Mark Fowler wrote: But does anyone know a module that can do this? Any super fast cleverness that I don't want to even think about? Matrix rotation? Cf. PDL. -- Robin Berjon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Research Engineer, Expwayhttp://expway.fr/ 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Nicholas Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will > be attending tomorrow. > Yes, these sudden arrivals should be ignored, of course those of us who have previously hand our twins turn up to non-heretical/heretical meeting

[OT] submitting a perl bug without ``perlbug''?

2003-08-14 Thread Belden Lyman
Howdy, A few months back I encountered a switch ordering bug with Perl 5.6.1 and 5.8 on Solaris. (-w -T on #! line doesn't work; -T -w does work, as do -wT and -Tw.) I wasn't able to 'perlbug' it at the time, and am still unable to do so. On occassion, I remember the bug and wish there were some w

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Shevek
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: > Was talking to Paul Makepeace about his recent studies in the world > of personal fitness, and started wondering. > > What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got > a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning > s

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: > > > Top posting. Undertrimming. Oneliners. Abuse of asterisks. > > Top posting as in 'great' or 'on top of others rather than underneath'? > > If the former then cool, otherwise please realise that top posting is > The One True

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2003-08-14 Thread Andrew Savige
Just wondering if Leon has yet received delivery of the goods he successfully bid for at the YAPC::Europe auction. I'm eager to see any photos of said goods (just for my ascii art collection, you see). /-\ http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Dave Cross wrote: > From: Nigel Rantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 8/14/03 10:39:33 AM > > > please realise that top posting is The One True Way(tm) for > > short posts > > You'll find that a controversial opinion round these parts. I'm sure it was a typo for "The One Truly A

Re: When is london.pm.org going to be in Esperanto?

2003-08-14 Thread Jasper McCrea
Paul Makepeace wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 11:02:04AM +0200, Beyer Steffen (AE-DA/EFS3) wrote: > > Is there already a time schedule for when the London.pm > > homepage will eventually be in Esperanto? > > Saluton - > > Argh sorry - yes, this is me. I've had exams running up to today so ha

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Oooh, where do I sign up? *search* Ben wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:54:03AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: Sorry, I'm a bit of a foodie. (AAnd if you like steak, then you should go to the camden brasserie, but thats a whole NOTHER story...) Are you on london.food ? Ben

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:25:15PM +0100, Dean wrote: > Rob Flickenger may be a sysadmin at O'Reilly but the world of Linux > books need his skills more than they do. An essential read for anyone > with less than a couple of years hands on Linux experience and excellent > read for anyone with them.

RE: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Williams \(IMAP HILLWAY\)
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earle Martin > Sent: 07 August 2003 01:08 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Messing with spammers > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:08:16AM -0700, Toby Corkindale wrote: > > Now do it again, wit

Re: Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-14 Thread Alex Hudson
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 03:01, Paul Makepeace wrote: > Are there any free tools for extracting tables etc from MS Access > databases? mdbtools any good? http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, Alex. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

thursday

2003-08-14 Thread Jody Belka
hi, i'm definitely going to make it into london for thursday (yay). thing is, i'm going to get into waterloo at 14:43, so does anyone want to meet up somewhere early? Jody

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 07:38:09AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: > I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like > to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here. What? Are you mad or something? Next thing you'll be trying to suggest that we should actually talk about this "perl" s

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Mark
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > I know older versions of Unix used to require you to reinstall your > signal handler when it was called. Modern versions don't because this > leads to race conditions. > > I thought that perl papered over this idiosyncracy for you, but try > resettin

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