Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Andrew Wilson
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:14:36AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: At 08:21 07/08/03, you wrote: I think I'm going to have to do this automagically to any link that appears to be an unsubscribe link in any of the emails that appear on my SPAMFOLDER. Please remember that spammers often use

Less than primitive drawing routines (was: Re: [OT] Re: Siesta party)

2003-08-14 Thread Robin Berjon
Nigel Rantor wrote: Off topic, anyone know any perl libs with less-than-primitive drawing routines for splines, arcs, and transformations? Depends on what you want to draw. There's a bunch of OpenGL stuff out there that quite certainly qualifies as less than primitive:

Re: Setting an Apache handler for a CGI script with no name extension

2003-08-14 Thread Earle Martin
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:00:53PM +0100, I wrote: (I suppose it could be that mod_mime isn't loaded; how can I check if it is?) As has just been pointed out to me on IRC, I could read httpd.conf. So I did, and it is being loaded. -- # Earle Martin

Re: Less than primitive drawing routines

2003-08-14 Thread Robin Berjon
Nigel Rantor wrote: Haven't looked into SVG very much but I can see that in at least the 1.1 they only have quad and cubic bezier functions. Yes, though at SVG Open I heard of people using those to provide quality approximations of a variety of other things (sorry I don't have a pointer ready,

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Clamp
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:08:13AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: Oooh, where do I sign up? *search* Top posting. Undertrimming. Oneliners. Abuse of asterisks. Please God, make it stop. I promise I'll eat all of my greens. As to the wider question of another Siesta party, take that over

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Purkis
On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 09:37 am, Nigel Rantor wrote: marguaritas (speelong?) I think margaritas is what you're looking for. (me too! :) The great thing about Spanish is that it's written exactly how it's pronounced - if it sounds like an a, you write an 'a'. None of those silent

Re: When is london.pm.org going to be in Esperanto?

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 11:02:04AM +0200, Beyer Steffen (AE-DA/EFS3) wrote: Is there already a time schedule for when the London.pm homepage will eventually be in Esperanto? Saluton - Argh sorry - yes, this is me. I've had exams running up to today so have a bit less on my plate as of earlier

Re: text'd or texted

2003-08-14 Thread Sam Vilain
Also following the recent discussion on pronunciations, the words text'd or texted do not exists in the dictionary. Which do you think will make it first!? You forgot: txt'd, txted ... pronounced teksd of course :-) -- Sam Vilain, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never invest your money in

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
If you look the original reply was to Steve who asserted that; The great thing about Spanish is that it's written exactly how it's pronounced - if it sounds like an a, you write an 'a'. None of those silent endings or weird letter combos that actually sound completely different that French

Re: Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Clifford
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote: It seems like if you can get an instance of Access running with the file, you should be able to use ODBC to extract the data. Indeed, but that would require running Windows, obtaining a copy license for Access, not to mention all the faffing

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Nigel Rantor wrote: Talking of Jamon...here's a really *nice* restaurant in that area... Jamon Jamon Does the French madness about movie-named restaurants invade London ? http://www.imdb.com/Title?0104545 Must try stuffed baby red peppers, white anchovies, mushrooms with spinach

Re: Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Paul Makepeace wrote: Are there any free tools for extracting tables etc from MS Access databases? I'm not looking for ODBC connections to Access installations, rather actual parsing+dumping tools so I can re-import into say Pg. Closest I've found is

[OT] Bananas

2003-08-14 Thread David Hodgkinson
You lot know I have an alter ego as Deep Purple's web slave, and one or two of you even know who they are. We just went live with a one-track-per-day listening party today: http:/www.deep-purple.com/stream/ Enjoy! Dave

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Chisel Wright
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:03:17PM +0200, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: Hmmm... PerlIO::via::backwards? Or (assuming vim as the mutt editor used): select lines, then !rev :) -- e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sackings will continue until morale w: http://www.herlpacker.co.uk/ |

Re: talking of arrays....

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Cleaton
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:39:03AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering why this: @m=([(_)x10])x5; $m[1][2]=o; for $y (0..4) { for $x (0..9) { print $m[$y][$x]; } print $y$/; } produces this: __o___ 0 __o___ 1 __o___ 2 __o___ 3

Re: [OT] Bananas

2003-08-14 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 03:01:45PM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote: http:/www.deep-purple.com/stream/ Oh, we support _both_ formats - RAM _and_ ASX. :-( R

Re: Bra

2003-08-14 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:26:18AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: Andrew Savige sent the following bits through the ether: Just wondering if Leon has yet received delivery of the goods he successfully bid for at the YAPC::Europe auction. I'm eager to see any photos of said goods (just for my

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Sam Vilain
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: I'm not convinced that it's a great idea to sit it in a top level namespace. Is it about cartography? Or data manipulation? List::Maptastic? One function is for mapping hashes. So it would have to be Collection::Maptastic, or

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Lusercop
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Re: [OT] Bananas

2003-08-14 Thread Sam Vilain
You lot know I have an alter ego as Deep Purple's web slave, and one or two of you even know who they are. We just went live with a one-track-per-day listening party today: Deep purple are also touring with Uriah heep in November: http://www.uriah-heep.com/livedates/index.html

Re: Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-14 Thread Jason Clifford
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Chris Devers wrote: For that matter, if you can run Access then I'm pretty sure you can avoid ODBC by saving the tables into Excel format (I'm pretty sure there's an option for this; at least, there used to be an option...) and then using Spreadsheet::ParseExcel to

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Please remember that spammers often use other people's identities when posting spam - please be careful about who you are taking action against. I second this. It is probably a bad idea. There are literally hundreds of bounced mails from accounts that do not exist on my domain. N

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Damon Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/6/03 2:50:21 PM On Wednesday 06 August 2003 16:38, Dave Cross wrote: I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here. Didn't

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
Andy Ford wrote: I am testing out signal (I nearly wrote single - and I'm married) trapping so I can use it in a number of scrits all ready in service. funnyBeware with the anger wife reading emails... =-] /funny The basic concept seems relatively straight forward, however my SIGHUP only seems

Re: Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 01:30:37PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: That's a fun site to wander about in. Just be sure not to let your fingers get confused and type in http://www.owsd.org/ - the home page of the Outdoor Women of South Dakota. I think I got spam for them the other day.

Re: Net::pcap

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Cleaton
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:43:34AM +0100, Andy Ford wrote: I am after a Perl module that will allow me to write/read packets directly to an interface, continually while the process is alive i.e. while the process is running, sniff packets, call a function dependant on the type/content of the

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Wechsler
Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: *I assume you mean Leon[0][1]. Actually, no, but now that you mention it:) Stacked footnotes, or does he now come as a multidimensional array? Wechsler -- http://www.fromtheshadows.com/ Fingerprint: 542C ADA9 47CE

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread alex
me ponders about something like this: for $table (a,aa,ab,ac){ $email=[EMAIL PROTECTED]';delete from $table;; } and start parsing through will you get the correct table name. or email=[EMAIL PROTECTED]';show tables; al Andy On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 10:28, Earle Martin wrote:

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:11:59PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Earle Martin wrote: It prompted me to take five minutes and write this. Well I got a little bored so made some small changes to annoy a particular peeve of mine - it makes a best attempt to ensure that

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross
From: Damon Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/6/03 2:21:02 PM On Wednesday 06 August 2003 13:56, James Campbell wrote: I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused about this [OT] business. The nice people in the white coats explained it to me thusly: Once upon a time, this

Re: text'd or texted

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Ford
Another word to confuse the non English speaking community -the verb to text!! Andy On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 09:20, Peter Sergeant wrote: Also following the recent discussion on pronunciations, the words text'd or texted do not exists in the dictionary. Which do you think will make it first!?

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Spiers
Shevek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Mark Fowler wrote: I have this: [ [ 1, 2, 3, ], [ 5, 6, 7, ], ] And I want this: [ [ 1, 5, ], [ 2, 6, ], [ 3, 7, ], ] Don't like the number 4 ?-) How do I do that? Use APL. Or Ruby 1.8:

Coming to Lunnun

2003-08-14 Thread Piers Cawley
Does anyone have crash space for Thursday night? -- Piers

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Dave Cross wrote: I'm currently getting 2-300 bounce messages a day from spam email that I didn't send :( Mine's running at about 500 a day. Thank heaven for spamassassin ! Simon. -- Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 03:47:55PM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: What? Are you mad or something? Next thing you'll be trying to suggest that we should actually talk about this perl stuff (Whatever that might be) at the social meeting tomorrow night, rather than trying to use false

Re: Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:17:42AM -0700, Brian Wisti wrote: Paul Makepeace wrote: Grab, contribute, or patch your Open Source HTML templates here, http://www.oswd.org/ Very cool! Paul That's a fun site to wander about in. Just be sure not to let your fingers get confused and

Anyone for a bit of Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread James Campbell
Hi You lot I got an e-mail from a guy at the IOP called Andrew Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking for bodies, The pays probably not great but if you are any where nera Camberwell and have spare time And fancy a bit of Virtual Reality? Dear All, Male control subjects (right and left handed)

text'd or texted

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Ford
Also following the recent discussion on pronunciations, the words text'd or texted do not exists in the dictionary. Which do you think will make it first!? And how do you pronounce it! ;0) Andy

Re: talking of arrays....

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just wondering why this: @m=([(_)x10])x5; $m[1][2]=o; for $y (0..4) { for $x (0..9) { print $m[$y][$x]; } print $y$/; } produces this: __o___ 0 __o___ 1 __o___ 2 __o___ 3 __o___ 4 ? the x operator on lists

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross
From: Nigel Rantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/14/03 10:39:33 AM please realise that top posting is The One True Way(tm) for short posts You'll find that a controversial opinion round these parts. Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk Let me see you make decisions, without your television -

Re: Meetings

2003-08-14 Thread Barbie [home]
From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'll be in the cellar bar. And I think we've got the whole bar booked. Good job too. With train tickets booked, a Birmingham posse will be making an appearance too :) Mark, has the bank loan come through? I think you may have spoken too soon about offering a

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Ford
This is perl, v5.6.1 built for sun4-solaris (v 2.8) Andy On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 15:50, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:35:17PM +0100, Andy Ford wrote: That works a treat - thanks what version of perl are you on, and what OS? (given that we thought all this was fixed by

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Roger Burton West
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:27:53PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: IIRC there's at least one domain where warez and porn were A records for 127.0.0.1, but I forget which (or it has dropped those records) There used to be at least one domain in which those names referred to actual in-service

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Cross
From: Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/12/03 8:46:34 AM On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Dean wrote: Which format does the person who does the hard work of turning these into web pages prefer? I've seen them as pod, XML and (In my case if no one else's) text. Evil Dave normally does this, and

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
I think maybe I should lie low for a bit now. So, full beard, glasses and nose for a while? N

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Lusercop
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 02:27:53PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: IIRC there's at least one domain where warez and porn were A records for 127.0.0.1, but I forget which (or it has dropped those records) Don't know about porn, but... http://www.bofh.net/~koos/warez.html -- Lusercop.net -

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Mark
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: snip I know older versions of Unix used to require you to reinstall your signal handler when it was called. Modern versions don't because this leads to race conditions. I thought that perl papered over this idiosyncracy for you, but try resetting

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 07:38:09AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: I think that you're confusing us with ny.pm. We do actually like to think that Perl discussion is encouraged here. What? Are you mad or something? Next thing you'll be trying to suggest that we should actually talk about this perl

thursday

2003-08-14 Thread Jody Belka
hi, i'm definitely going to make it into london for thursday (yay). thing is, i'm going to get into waterloo at 14:43, so does anyone want to meet up somewhere early? Jody

RE: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Williams \(IMAP HILLWAY\)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Earle Martin Sent: 07 August 2003 01:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Messing with spammers On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 03:08:16AM -0700, Toby Corkindale wrote: Now do it again, with $prefix

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:25:15PM +0100, Dean wrote: Rob Flickenger may be a sysadmin at O'Reilly but the world of Linux books need his skills more than they do. An essential read for anyone with less than a couple of years hands on Linux experience and excellent read for anyone with them.

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Oooh, where do I sign up? *search* Ben wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:54:03AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: Sorry, I'm a bit of a foodie. (AAnd if you like steak, then you should go to the camden brasserie, but thats a whole NOTHER story...) Are you on london.food ? Ben

Re: When is london.pm.org going to be in Esperanto?

2003-08-14 Thread Jasper McCrea
Paul Makepeace wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 11:02:04AM +0200, Beyer Steffen (AE-DA/EFS3) wrote: Is there already a time schedule for when the London.pm homepage will eventually be in Esperanto? Saluton - Argh sorry - yes, this is me. I've had exams running up to today so have a bit

Bra

2003-08-14 Thread Andrew Savige
Just wondering if Leon has yet received delivery of the goods he successfully bid for at the YAPC::Europe auction. I'm eager to see any photos of said goods (just for my ascii art collection, you see). /-\ http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Shevek
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: Was talking to Paul Makepeace about his recent studies in the world of personal fitness, and started wondering. What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Nicholas Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I wonder how many previously unknown identical twins (or quadruplets) will be attending tomorrow. Yes, these sudden arrivals should be ignored, of course those of us who have previously hand our twins turn up to non-heretical/heretical meetings

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Robin Berjon
Mark Fowler wrote: But does anyone know a module that can do this? Any super fast cleverness that I don't want to even think about? Matrix rotation? Cf. PDL. -- Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Engineer, Expwayhttp://expway.fr/ 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Dean wrote: Which format does the person who does the hard work of turning these into web pages prefer? I've seen them as pod, XML and (In my case if no one else's) text. Evil Dave normally does this, and I don't think he's close to a net connection very often for the

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Damon Davison
Alle Thursday 14 August 2003 12:29, Nigel Rantor ha scritto: : Okay, fine, not silent at all, but definitely not 'phonetic' : either. The grapheme {j} in Spanish is pronouced more or less like the phone [h] in English (even in Latin America) and is perfectly phonetic. Maybe you were thinking

Re: Pollution and Inheritance

2003-08-14 Thread Shevek
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Peter Sergeant wrote: I'm writing a module, Some::Module::Extended, which is a sub-class of Some::Module. There are two or three methods that I want Some::Module::Extended to override - I want them to do some munging of [SNIP] However, I'm also a big user of

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Lusercop
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:41:49PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: Was talking to Paul Makepeace about his recent studies in the world of personal fitness, and started wondering. What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread David Cantrell
Mark Fowler wrote: Evil Dave normally does this, and I don't think he's close to a net connection very often for the next couple of weeks. We have wireless and ISDN at the campsite! -- Lord Protector David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david One person can change the world, but most of

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Dan Brook
If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple use mapcar; use Data::Dumper; my $arrays= [ [1..3], [5..7] ]; my @reordered = mapcar { [EMAIL PROTECTED] } @$arrays; print Dumper([EMAIL PROTECTED]); __output__ $VAR1 = [ [ 1, 5 ], [

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
I think margaritas is what you're looking for. (me too! :) *yay* yep, thats the man, I must get a couple down me soonish... The great thing about Spanish is that it's written exactly how it's pronounced - if it sounds like an a, you write an 'a'. None of those silent endings or weird

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
del_boy allright, allright, calm down rodders /del_boy they also stock, alchohol that *ISN'T SPANISH EITHER*!!! Béchamel !~ Spanish food (Béchamel was a French cook, and AFAIK he's one of the first persons to have his name attached to a recipe.)

[JOB] Security in Amsterdam

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Hi, below is the offical job advert, you can also address questions directly to at quentyn.taylor at canon-europe.com The Canon Security Group based at Canon Europa NV in Amstelveen (Amsterdam) is currently recruiting a Security Analyst. The candidate we search for will be a highly motivated IT

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Peter Sergeant sent the following bits through the ether: http://grou.ch/bounce.txt I had been thinking of using Mail::DeliveryStatus::BounceParser. Wonderful that CPAN thing, eh? Leon -- Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/

Re: Messing with spammers

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Sergeant
My personal feeling is that whatever comes and replaces SMTP has to insist that certain information be guaranteed - for example, if smtp.foo.com wants to send an email which has From: [EMAIL PROTECTED], then smtp.foo.com.can-relay.bar.com or something ought to point at smtp.foo.com's IP

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Chisel Wright wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 02:03:17PM +0200, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: Hmmm... PerlIO::via::backwards? Or (assuming vim as the mutt editor used): select lines, then !rev Or perhaps more accurately : %!rev %ri %!tac although using external

Re: Setting an Apache handler for a CGI script with no name extension

2003-08-14 Thread Scott McWhirter
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:00:53PM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: I have a script, let's call it test-script, that I'd like to run as CGI without it having a .cgi or .pl in its name, so it can masquerade as a directory and I can do nice things like

Re: [REVIEW] Linux Server Hacks

2003-08-14 Thread Dean Wilson
Nicholas Clark wrote: with less than a couple of years hands on Linux experience and excellent read for anyone with them. Top notch. How much (if any) of it Linux specific? ie would most of it apply equally well to any free Unix system, such as one of the *BSDs, or even commercial Unix with

Re: Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 12:21:04PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: It seems like if you can get an instance of Access running with the file, you should be able to use ODBC to extract the data. Indeed, but that would require running Windows, obtaining a copy license for Access, not to mention all

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Alex McLintock
At 12:56 06/08/03, you wrote: I have checked the london.pm FAQ but I am still confused about this [OT] business. Use [OT] when the subject is definitely off topic - but still of interest to many people on the list and there is no better way to tell them. I think the idea behind using [OT] to

Re: Oops - I meant OT Virtual Reality?

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Golds
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 04:21:02PM +0200, Damon Davison wrote: The nice people in the white coats explained it to me thusly: Once upon a time, this list was about Perl. Now it is mostly about anything else (social, generally). Since then the list topic has changed to anything but perl,

Spam Modules (was: Re: Messing with spammers)

2003-08-14 Thread Robin Berjon
Talking about spam, this was released yesterday: http://search.cpan.org/author/JWALT/Acme-Lingua-NIGERIAN-1.0.0/NIGERIAN.pm -- Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Research Engineer, Expwayhttp://expway.fr/ 7FC0 6F5F D864 EFB8 08CE 8E74 58E6 D5DB 4889 2488

[OT] submitting a perl bug without ``perlbug''?

2003-08-14 Thread Belden Lyman
Howdy, A few months back I encountered a switch ordering bug with Perl 5.6.1 and 5.8 on Solaris. (-w -T on #! line doesn't work; -T -w does work, as do -wT and -Tw.) I wasn't able to 'perlbug' it at the time, and am still unable to do so. On occassion, I remember the bug and wish there were some

Re: Open Source Web Design

2003-08-14 Thread Joel Bernstein
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 04:37:52PM +0200, Merijn Broeren wrote: Quoting Joel Bernstein ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:17:42AM -0700, Brian Wisti wrote: the Outdoor Women of South Dakota. I was *convinced* that had to be something nudist. I'm still boggling that it

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Devers
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Dave Cross wrote: From: Nigel Rantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/14/03 10:39:33 AM please realise that top posting is The One True Way(tm) for short posts You'll find that a controversial opinion round these parts. I'm sure it was a typo for The One Truly Awful Way.

Re: [JOB] Yahoo! News (in California)

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 05:58:44PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: Any success actually having a H1B granted? I know some people are interested in, or know peole interested in work in the US: News just in from my visa lawyers: the H1-B cap is being reduced very shortly back to pre- .com levels of

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Ali Young
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? My usual answer for that is writing a book, but I've been

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:39:33AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: Top posting. Undertrimming. Oneliners. Abuse of asterisks. Top posting as in 'great' or 'on top of others rather than underneath'? If the former then cool, otherwise please realise that top posting is The One True Way(tm)

Re: HTML::Parser

2003-08-14 Thread Rhys Hopkins
Joel Bernstein wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 05:08:39PM +0100, Rhys Hopkins wrote: Whilst Data Munging with Perl is, of course, a fine book, in With a fine title. Following the recent discussion on the pronunciation of regex / regexp, this is something that has intrigued me for some time, mung

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote: I'm not convinced that it's a great idea to sit it in a top level namespace. Is it about cartography? Or data manipulation? List::Maptastic? -- #!/usr/bin/perl -T use strict; use warnings; print q{Mark Fowler, [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:58:00 +0100 (BST), Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: I know older versions of Unix used to require you to reinstall your signal handler when it was called. Modern versions don't because this leads to race conditions. I thought

Re: Setting an Apache handler for a CGI script with no name extension

2003-08-14 Thread Phil Lanch
you probably solved this hours ago, but if not ... On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 04:44:57PM +0100, Wechsler wrote: What does the AllowOverride line look like? Will it let you make the changes you want in .htaccess? good question. you can't use Location in .htaccess (ever!), so when you tried to,

Re: When is london.pm.org going to be in Esperanto?

2003-08-14 Thread Robin Berjon
Beyer Steffen (AE-DA/EFS3) wrote: Just out of curiosity: Is there already a time schedule for when the London.pm homepage will eventually be in Esperanto? Yes, and Paris.pm too! At this rate dahut.pm will have its page in Esperanto before any of you guys do. -- Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Sam Vilain
If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple Shortly to be released to CPAN as Maptastic, as soon as I figure out the iteration semantics. Pre-release available at http://vilain.net/pm/Maptastic-0.99.tar.gz, which has mapcar and mapcaru in it. Feedback most welcome. [0]

When is london.pm.org going to be in Esperanto?

2003-08-14 Thread Beyer Steffen (AE-DA/EFS3)
Hi Greg, hi Leon, hi London.pm Perl Mongers! Just out of curiosity: Is there already a time schedule for when the London.pm homepage will eventually be in Esperanto? Thanks a lot in advance! Best regards, Steffen Beyer

Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Fowler
I have this: [ [ 1, 2, 3, ], [ 5, 6, 7, ], ] And I want this: [ [ 1, 5, ], [ 2, 6, ], [ 3, 7, ], ] How do I do that? I mean, I can write this code: sub reorder { my $new = []; foreach my $col_no (0..(@{ $_[0]-[0] } - 1)) { my $new_row = []; foreach my $row

[JOB] Java dev @ Kizoom

2003-08-14 Thread Steve Purkis
Not exactly a Perl role, but then I suppose that makes this more or less on topic for this list ;-). Kizoom are looking for a Java developer with a minimum of 3 years recent experience to join their team to do s/w development for mobile devices. Solaris admin experience is a definite plus.

Exporting from .mdb Access files

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
Are there any free tools for extracting tables etc from MS Access databases? I'm not looking for ODBC connections to Access installations, rather actual parsing+dumping tools so I can re-import into say Pg. Closest I've found is http://www.csrobins.com/mdb2txt.htm which unfortunately is a closed

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Rafael Garcia-Suarez sent the following bits through the ether: Bechamel !~ Spanish food (Bechamel was a French cook, and AFAIK he's one of the first persons to have his name attached to a recipe.) He's unlikely to have created it of course:

RE: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Robbie Scourou
What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? I am planning on taking a Film studies course. Eventually I want to become an out of work Director or

Re: Reordering Arrays.

2003-08-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 06:02:59PM +0100, Sam Vilain wrote: If you nab mapcar[0] this is insanely simple Shortly to be released to CPAN as Maptastic, as soon as I figure out the iteration semantics. Pre-release available at http://vilain.net/pm/Maptastic-0.99.tar.gz, which has

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Nigel Rantor
Hi, I'll answer the flambait off the list. Yes, other languages figure into my 'understanding of the world'. If I preface something with 'an English speaker' then I also expect you to understand my comment within this context. Sorry if you can't do that. Regards, N Dave Thorn wrote: On

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Ben
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:54:03AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: Sorry, I'm a bit of a foodie. (AAnd if you like steak, then you should go to the camden brasserie, but thats a whole NOTHER story...) Are you on london.food ? Ben

RE: [OT] Bananas

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Williams \(IMAP HILLWAY\)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hodgkinson Sent: 13 August 2003 15:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Bananas You lot know I have an alter ego as Deep Purple's web slave, and one or two of you even know who they

Re: Siesta party

2003-08-14 Thread Dave Thorn
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 11:55:22AM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: If you look the original reply was to Steve who asserted that; The great thing about Spanish is that it's written exactly how it's pronounced - if it sounds like an a, you write an 'a'. None of those silent endings or weird

Re: what are you doing

2003-08-14 Thread Randy J. Ray
On 2003.08.14 05:39 Ali Young wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Michael Stevens wrote: What are people doing outside Perl/IT these days? Have you got a job outside IT because there's no IT work? Or are you learning something outside IT / planning to do something like this? My usual answer for that

Re: text'd or texted

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Sergeant
Also following the recent discussion on pronunciations, the words text'd or texted do not exists in the dictionary. Which do you think will make it first!? One would assume neither will make it into the dictionary like that, but that 'text [v]' may one day make it in, the logical past-tense of

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