Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread David Cantrell
Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: While Twin Peaks was pretty good, (and I enjoyed the companion movie as well), I don't think it has the same level of achievement and homogeneity than Buffy and the Prisoner. It's more like a testbed for Lynch's next movies. Hopefully Lynch hasn't completely given away

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:29:26PM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: > David H. Adler wrote: > >On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:37:45PM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: > >>Buffy the TV series is a far too pale imitation of the movie to ever > >>really make me watch it. > > > >You realize, of course, that the movie

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:58:18PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:55:14PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > >On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:28:34PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > >> Anyway if we are ruling out comedies, then Northern Exposure was the best > >> TV series e

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Dave Cross
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 04:47:34PM +0100, Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Dave Cross wrote: > > >From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: 9/3/03 2:51:26 PM > > > >[ BtVS ] > > > >>Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) > > > >You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner"

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Nigel Rantor
David H. Adler wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:37:45PM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: Buffy the TV series is a far too pale imitation of the movie to ever really make me watch it. You realize, of course, that the movie was completely changed from its original concept and that the tv series is much c

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Tony Bowden
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:16:58PM +0200, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > It's clear, when watching interviews of the scenarists or other members > of the team, that Whedon had control over every aspect of the show. I > know no other example of this on TV, except McGoohan and the Prisoner. David E.

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Nigel" == Nigel Rantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nigel> Buffy the TV series is a far too pale imitation of the movie to ever Nigel> really make me watch it. Basically it just pisses me off. The plots Nigel> and characters are, quite frankly, a bag of shite. I figure that since Nigel> any

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Chris Devers
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, muppet wrote: > stop the wrongful slander of goto! Man, what a muppet this guy is... Look, goto's are just bad, mmmkay? -- Chris Devers[EMAIL PROTECTED] channeling http://www.askoxford.com/pressroom/archive/odelaunch/>

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Tony Bowden
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 06:10:19PM +0200, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > Twin Peaks was pretty good, (and I enjoyed the companion movie as well), The movie makes a LOT more sense if you get a copy of the original script. A HUGE amount was cut, much of which seemed to actually be quite crucial to

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:28:34PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) > > > >You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin > > > >Peaks"? > > > > > > Ah, the ignorance of youth... ;-) > > > > I am not that young and I watched bot

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:37:45PM +0100, Nigel Rantor wrote: > > Buffy the TV series is a far too pale imitation of the movie to ever > really make me watch it. You realize, of course, that the movie was completely changed from its original concept and that the tv series is much closer to what

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) > > > >You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin > > > >Peaks"? > > > > > > Ah, the ignorance of youth... ;-) > > > > I am not that young and I watched both The Prisoner and Twin

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:55:14PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: >On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 05:28:34PM +0100, Jonathan Peterson wrote: >> Anyway if we are ruling out comedies, then Northern Exposure was the best >> TV series ever made. Or Dr Who minus all the crap ones. >What? Crap DW?? Never! Time

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Nigel Rantor
Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: Dave Cross wrote: You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin Peaks"? While Twin Peaks was pretty good, (and I enjoyed the companion movie as well), I don't think it has the same level of achievement and homogeneity than Buffy and the Prisoner. It's m

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Jonathan Peterson
> > > > > Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) > > >You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin > > >Peaks"? > > > > Ah, the ignorance of youth... ;-) > > I am not that young and I watched both The Prisoner and Twin Peaks. > Neither is as good in my opinion. Twin Peaks win

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Michel Rodriguez
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: > Paul Mison wrote: > > Babylon 5 is an obvious counter-example, > > First time I encounter this title. I think it was never > broadcast in France, at least not on a public channel. Or is > it ancient ? It was on Canal + a few years ago. I don't thi

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
At 16:47 +0100 9/3/03, Steve Mynott wrote: Dave Cross wrote: Have you seen the last episode of "The Prisoner" and if so would you also consider that to be "the best TV ever made"? Or maybe some of the worse... A think a lot has been said and written about the last episode of "The Prisoner". I'm

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Dave Cross wrote: > You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin > Peaks"? While Twin Peaks was pretty good, (and I enjoyed the companion movie as well), I don't think it has the same level of achievement and homogeneity than Buffy and the Prisoner. It's more like a testbed for Lyn

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Paul Mison wrote: > Babylon 5 is an obvious counter-example, First time I encounter this title. I think it was never broadcast in France, at least not on a public channel. Or is it ancient ?

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
> "Rafael" == Rafael Garcia-Suarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rafael> Indeed BtVS is, at a rarely-precedented level, the "work of one man". Rafael> It's clear, when watching interviews of the scenarists or other members Rafael> of the team, that Whedon had control over every aspect of the sho

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Paul Mison
On 03/09/2003 at 17:16 +0200, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: Indeed BtVS is, at a rarely-precedented level, the "work of one man". It's clear, when watching interviews of the scenarists or other members of the team, that Whedon had control over every aspect of the show. I know no other example of thi

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Clifford
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Elizabeth Mattijsen wrote: > > > Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) > >You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin > >Peaks"? > > Ah, the ignorance of youth... ;-) I am not that young and I watched both The Prisoner and Twin Peaks. Neither is as good i

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Steve Mynott
Dave Cross wrote: From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 9/3/03 2:51:26 PM [ BtVS ] Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin Peaks"? Have you seen the last episode of "The Prisoner" and if so would you also consider that to b

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Elizabeth Mattijsen
At 08:38 -0700 9/3/03, Dave Cross wrote: > Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin Peaks"? Ah, the ignorance of youth... ;-) Liz

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Dave Cross
From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 9/3/03 2:51:26 PM [ BtVS ] > Still - it was the best TV ever made ;) You jest surely. Have you never seen "The Prisoner" or "Twin Peaks"? Dave... -- "Let me see you make decisions, without your television" - Depeche

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Jason Clifford wrote: > > Hollywood commercialism had it's chance with Buffy and produced the movie > - truly awful rubbish that nearly frightened any TV network from buying > the show when Joss finally got complete control to make it himself. Indeed BtVS is, at a rarely-precedented level, the

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread muppet
Jason Clifford said: > the movie - truly awful rubbish how can you say that about a film that contains paul rubens' absolutely stellar and breathtaking death scene performance!? thespians the world over could take a lesson from that one. /me ducks -- muppet

Re: Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Clifford
On 3 Sep 2003, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Sorry for me this "The mere existence of Buffy proves the declinists wrong about one thing: Hollywood commercialism can produce great art. Complex and evolving characters" turns the whole article into shite.

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread muppet
Nicholas Clark said: > Parrot has much cleaner source than Perl 5. However, to maintain the > balance of good and evil^Wgoto, Perl 6 will compile down to parrot > bytecode, which quite definitely does have gotos. So even the nicest, > most clean award winning code from the purest best intentioned

TCP/IP Illistrated vol 2 (was Re: Bad C Source)

2003-09-03 Thread Mark Fowler
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > Which reminds me, I must purchase a copy TCP/IP Illustrated vol 2. It's not as informative as the first one. The first one was a world of wonder and amazement at how networking works, explaining everything clearly and nicely. The second one is a bunc

Ob-buffy

2003-09-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
-- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and op

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Andy Wardley
Paul Johnson wrote: > I think I wrote my first ever goto code in C yesterday. Way back when I was a teen-geek, I played around writing a few games, mostly in C, with the odd bit of assembler thrown in for bad taste. One of these was a rip-off of the classic Tron light-cycle game. I got myself i

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s

2003-09-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:08:54PM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: > [list of compression schemes] To that, add: ?Q? ?Z? Crunch Compress (not the same as Unix compress) RLE -- Lord Protector David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david " Norton Wipe Info uses hexadecimal values to wipe fi

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s

2003-09-03 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:08:54PM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: > There do seem to be a lot of compression formats. A quick Google suggests: > > ... BatComp (4DOS) ... Batcomp isn't a general-purpose compression tool. Its purpose is to transmogrify a batch file (which with 4DOS can be quite sophi

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s

2003-09-03 Thread Earle Martin
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:09:16AM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote: > JAR was available in 1996 or so, I think. I still have copies of most of > the archivers and compressors I was playing with in those days... anyone > remember UC2? HA? SAR? ACB? There do seem to be a lot of compression formats. A

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Rafael Garcia-Suarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In bleadperl : > $ perl -lne 'print if /\bgoto\b/' *.[ch] | wc -l > 605 > > This is a rough metric, there are probably less actual gotos than this > (because of comments and because "goto" is a perl keyword -- not > forgetting the yacc-generate

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Sam Vilain
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:17, Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote; > However most of gotos appear to be in the tokenizer and in the > regular expression engine. Thoee are based on state machines, and > IMHO gotos are legitimate in state machines. Right, and we all know that every program can be conside

Re: [OT] Web Hosting on Linux with ssh access

2003-09-03 Thread Sam Vilain
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 09:49, Andy Williams wrote; > I'm looking for a hosting company for a website I want to set-up. > It'll need the following: > - ssh access > - a database of some sort (mySQL, postgresql) > - perl with a good selection of cpan installed > - be reasonbably cheap. >

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Simon Wistow
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 11:13:35AM +0100, Nicholas Clark said: > At the risk of going off topic, the Perl 5 source isn't exactly pleasant. > And contains gotos. IIRC I added 2 between 5.6.0 and 5.8.0, but the > alternative was a big mess of if()s and braces. C doesn't have all the > nice loop label

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Paul Johnson
Nicholas Clark said: > At the risk of going off topic, the Perl 5 source isn't exactly pleasant. > And contains gotos. IIRC I added 2 between 5.6.0 and 5.8.0, but the > alternative was a big mess of if()s and braces. C doesn't have all the > nice loop labelling features of a certain other languag

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Nicholas Clark wrote: > > At the risk of going off topic, the Perl 5 source isn't exactly pleasant. > And contains gotos. IIRC I added 2 between 5.6.0 and 5.8.0, but the > alternative was a big mess of if()s and braces. C doesn't have all the > nice loop labelling features of a certain other langu

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:53:21AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > Yuck. I didn't actually look at it, just let the ports compile it for > me. I didn't inspect it too far, but it seems that the current source is safe to look at. I seems to have benefited from a complete re-write > When it come

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:49:28AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >You can get unrar as source code. I posted the link yesterday. Yes, but not the compressor. Ditto for ACE and ARJ. So there's no way to originate a RAR file under Linux without using binary-only software, and any other Unix will

Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 07:16:40AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> For the benefit of people likely to come up against Yet Another >> Compression Format, though: >> >> http://files10.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.2.3.tar.gz > > The code in there is a

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Unix, RAR and ACE are only available as binaries, which puts off a > lot of people; and neither those nor ZIP preserves file ownership or > permission information. So while I'm able to extract most files under > Unix, I wouldn't choose those formats

Re: [OT] Web Hosting on Linux with ssh access

2003-09-03 Thread Dave Cross
From: duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 9/3/03 9:16:01 AM > www.oneandone.co.uk are good. > > Not too sure about how much CPAN they have installed but > their tech support has always been good at responding to > questions when I've needed to use them I have root access to my own server at onean

Re: [OT] Web Hosting on Linux with ssh access

2003-09-03 Thread duncan
www.oneandone.co.uk are good. Not too sure about how much CPAN they have installed but their tech support has always been good at responding to questions when I've needed to use them Andy Williams wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a hosting company for a website I want to set-up. It'll need the foll

Re: [OT] Web Hosting on Linux with ssh access

2003-09-03 Thread Peter Sergeant
> I'm looking for a hosting company for a website I want to set-up. > It'll need the following: > I've had absolutely nothing but pure joy from Bytemark: http://www.bytemark-hosting.co.uk/index.html £15 a month for a machine with 64MB memory, 3GB HDD and 7.5GB transfer (with more transfer being

[OT] Web Hosting on Linux with ssh access

2003-09-03 Thread Andy Williams
Hi, I'm looking for a hosting company for a website I want to set-up. It'll need the following: - ssh access - a database of some sort (mySQL, postgresql) - perl with a good selection of cpan installed - be reasonbably cheap. - can be on a shared machine but own box would be great. Any sugge

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:05:02PM +0100, Barbie [home] wrote: >On 02 September 2003 09:43 Roger Burton West wrote: >> (All of this >> only applies to the Windows world, obviously; I think the parallels in >> Unix, or at least Linux, would be .tar.bz2, .tar.gz, and dodgy >> commercial software with

Re: Mercury Amalgam

2003-09-03 Thread Philip Hellyer
Quoting Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 03:48:06PM +0100, Philip Hellyer wrote: > > My s.o. also took 10 grams of intravenous vitamin C during > > the procedure. > > Isn't that above the level where vitamin C will crystalise out of urine > and potentially cause damage to the