On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 11:01 AM, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> If there ever was to be a PerlMonth mark 2, i'd like to see it provide
> an option to download ps/pdf[1] so that you can actually print out the
> magazine and read it on the loo or on your way to work - i think this
> would mak
On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 10:33 AM, Leon Brocard wrote:
> David H. Adler sent the following bits through the ether:
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>> I'm going with the "it's better than nothing. Maybe it'll get better"
>> thing...
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> You know, it doesn't have to be paper. If only we had some way of
> distributin
On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 10:42 PM, Dave Cross wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 10:36:51PM +0100, Marcel Grunauer
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 10:32 PM, Robin Houston wrote:
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On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 10:32 PM, Robin Houston wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 09:03:18PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
>> Secondly, what is an easier way to populate %foo?
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On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 10:03 PM, Dave Cross wrote:
> What does the following code print out
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> @a = ("a", 1, "b", 2, "c", 3);
> $i = 0;
> grep($foo{$_} = $a[$#a - $i++], @a);
> print $foo{"c"}, "\n";
(spoiler space)
1
(Rather easy.)
> Secondly, what is an
On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 07:14 PM, Chris Devers wrote:
> FWIW, I was pretty disappointed in the Sysadmin incarnation of TPJ
> that I
> got a month or so ago. It's more "pamphlet" than "journal". I feel bad
> for
> you guys waiting for your copies, because when it finally shows up,
> w
On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 07:35 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
> And now I've got the November SysAdmin, but still no TPJ. I got no
> response
> from Shannon Weaver either. Has anyone got their TPJ yet? Has anyone
> not got
> it? Can someone from the list please respond this time, so I can tel
On Sunday, October 28, 2001, at 08:22 AM, Damian Conway wrote:
> If there are cases where it could do the Thing Righter you should let
> me know.
> The current ToDo list includes:
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> * honour POD
> * auto-detect-and-ignore Perl
> * auto-detect-and-perltidy Perl
...
> *
On Sunday, October 28, 2001, at 12:17 AM, Nik Butler wrote:
> Most of all though as your self this .
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> Did you write your code for your benefit or theirs ?
I have asked myself that; certainly because I enjoy playing around
with new ideas and, as they say, to scratch an itch - so, for my
benef
[ Warning: rant follows ]
Lately I've been wondering more and more why I keep writing and
releasing modules, as no one ever seems to use them or even notice
- there's zero feedback.
It's becoming an academic plaything, which is no good; there are
very few people to reflect on them with. Certainl
On Tuesday, July 3, 2001, at 03:12 PM, Philip Newton wrote:
> Yeah, I heard that you could do system() or die, and figured that
> with "0
> but true", you can already do half of that... but to really support the
> idiom, you'd need something like "3 but false".
Well, Scalar::Properties can do
ation about exports
test using two exporting modules
To see whether `Exporter::Simple' is ok with more than one module
using it. (I don't know why it shouldn't be, but that's what testing
is for).
BUGS
If you find any bugs or oddities, please do inf
On Monday, July 2, 2001, at 06:19 PM, Philip Newton wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> In case anyone's interested, "Buffy im Bann der D‰monen" has just
>> started on ProSieben.
>
> Oooh. I think /me wants a television set after all. On the other hand...
> it's probably dubbed. Never mind, then.
E
On Monday, July 2, 2001, at 10:31 AM, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> So here is the challenge. You have to write a Perl program that takes
> two arguments, the first is the start word and the second is the finish
> word. The Perl program will then use /usr/dict/words to find
> the shortest word chain b
On Saturday, June 30, 2001, at 01:22 AM, Natalie Ford wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 07:09:17PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>> I've done a web page with information and links to Perl 5 modules
>> that may be of interest to those discussing and implementing the
>>
On Friday, June 29, 2001, at 11:09 AM, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 09:52:18PM +0100, Barbie [home] wrote:
Greg (Age 26.95)
>>> robin aged 37.99178
>> (36.75 and a bit)
>
> Lee, how about adding birthdays to the world map?
And in the spirit of forstering Internet p
these are
proof-of-concepts that the respective authors have implemented to show
how things might work in Perl 6.
There's a web page dealing with these modules and proof-of-concepts at
http://www.codewerk.com/perl6/.
AUTHOR
Marcel Grunauer, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
COPYRIG
For all of you interested in trying out Perl 6 concepts today:
I've done a web page with information and links to Perl 5 modules
that may be of interest to those discussing and implementing the
Perl 6 language. Some of them are proof-of-concepts of Perl 6
features that the respective authors have
On Friday, June 29, 2001, at 06:44 PM, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> This is the second time i've had to say this, Spike is not cool, he
> (in my (perhaps less than appropriate) estimation) is ugly and dresses
> like a twat ... Now Angel ...
Not to speak of that bleached hair.
Marcel
--
my int
On Friday, June 29, 2001, at 04:09 PM, Jon Galliers wrote:
> This has been puzzling me for a while, the solution is either I'm being
> a bit dim, or lies within the internals of Perl.
[snip code]
But it does work, once you declare everything properly with my():
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
On Thursday, June 28, 2001, at 02:19 PM, Robin Houston wrote:
> It all sounds great in theory, but I suppose a really lousy course
> might be so demotivating that it would sap my will to do any of the
> other things...
Also, I was talking more about other jobs that might take your mind
off bits
On Thursday, June 28, 2001, at 12:27 AM, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> It would be cool if modules had a RATIONALE section. Quite a lot of
> these
> are to me (I guess an ignoramus or not in on some joke) leave me baffled
> as to why you'd want to do this
RATIONALE
Because we can.
Because
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001, at 10:12 PM, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
> NAME
> Scalar::Properties - run-time properties on scalar variables
[...]
> AUTHORS
> James A. Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Marcel Grunauer, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'd like to a
only one such list for the whole mechanism. The whole property
interface is experimental, but this one in particular is likely to
change in the future.
`passed_on(STRING)'
Tests whether a property is passed on and returns a boolean value.
`get_pass_on&#
During a conversation on #london.pm the topic of rewarding tasks
came up. It seems you can take small projects to completion, but
not big ones; I've certainly never worked for a company that had
seen a big project all the way through. Usually it got changed,
cancelled, or split into smaller, more
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001, at 05:38 PM, Simon Wistow wrote:
> Sorry, should have done that off list really.
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> Unless you happen to be fascinated about where I live.
Everybody else seems to think we are.
Marcel
--
We are Perl. Your table will be assimilated. Your waiter will adapt to
servi
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001, at 09:59 AM, Philip Newton wrote:
> main::mysplit(marcel.pl:13): print join ':' => split($pat,
> $orig, $limit);
> DB<2> print join ':' => split($pat, $orig, $limit)
> he:o cruel world
> DB<3> n
> hello:cruel:worldmain::mysplit(marcel.pl:14):
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001, at 12:33 PM, Natalie Ford wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
>> Leon, who is thinking of leaving London.pm
> Leon is not necessarily the only one...
This is worrying. What seems to be the problem?
Marcel
--
$ perl -we time
Usele
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
sub mysplit {
my ($orig, $pat, $limit) = @_;
$pat = qr/\s+/ unless ref($pat) eq 'Regexp';
$limit ||= 0;
print "orig = <$orig>\n";
print "pat = <$pat>\n";
print "limit = <$limit>\n";
print
On Monday, June 25, 2001, at 12:13 PM, Robin Houston wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 05:24:16PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>> Well, this means that I now have to try and get bleadperl to compile
>> and pass test on OS X... seems like a long way. But it'd be good to
On Sunday, June 24, 2001, at 06:31 PM, Richard Clamp wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 04:18:55PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>
>> But if they're subroutines (as it looks like from
>> the reference), surely they're available in a subclass thro
On Sunday, June 24, 2001, at 05:19 PM, Leon Brocard wrote:
>> Any insight before I fire off a bug report or at least a documentation
>> patch to p5p?
>
> It works in bleadperl.
Thanks, Leon.
Well, this means that I now have to try and get bleadperl to compile
and pass test on OS X... seems lik
use warnings;
use strict;
use Tie::Scalar;
tie my $fh, 'Tie::StdScalar';
open $fh, $0 or die "can't open myself: $!\n";
print <$fh>;
close $fh;
produces an "Illegal instruction" at the open() statement (and
something even weirder in the debugger). Should be a better message
at least, but I had
On Sunday, June 24, 2001, at 05:22 AM, Richard Clamp wrote:
> So I'm sitting here, monkeying with the object hierarchy of A::MC, and
> I hit something of a stumbling block in inheriting constants from a
> parent class.
>
> Properties and methods are easy, and I suppose I could use a method to
>
On Friday, June 22, 2001, at 06:11 PM, David H. Adler wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:07:44AM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>>
>> Hmm. "I don't possess blame" === "It's not my fault"?
>
> Actually, this is probably just an indication
On Friday, June 22, 2001, at 01:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:41:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> A pub quiz is a good idea -- however, it needs to be about something
> other than perl.
Good point.
>> Maybe we could even have an opening of the meeting, readi
Greg wrote:
> I don't think the seating arrangement in PO makes it easy to talk
> to lots of people, even if you already know them. We always seem
> to split up onto seperate tables where you can only really chat
> properly to 4 or 5 people aorund you.
Agreed (from afar).
> Also how about some
On Friday, June 22, 2001, at 01:55 AM, Mark Fowler wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>
>> tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh'a'
>
> Okay, that's going to take more than the 3% of battery power I have left
> on the latop and me trying to translate via the
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 08:29 PM, Mark Fowler wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>
>> It's Klingon for "Read (about) it at amazon, don't buy it!"
>>
>> Marcel
>
> Use the bIjatlhHa'chugh qaHoH
> nottat
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 01:46 PM, Philip Newton wrote:
> Barbie wrote:
>> If you would rather a list that is just Perl code then
>> c.l.p.m is a fine place to start.
>
> ...which is also cliquey and elitist in a way (especially if you don't
> use
> strict and -w), and has more non-Perl (
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 01:52 PM, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:45:58PM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>> amazonDaq DalaD 'ach yIje'Qo'
>
> I tried running this through rot13, it didn't produce anything more
> sane,
>
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 01:32 PM, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Marcel Grunauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> PS: I miss Harvey Nick's Food Hall. A Pret in Vienna wouldn't
>> go amiss either.
>
> Boycotting Pret because of the McD's shareholding
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 01:24 PM, Leon Brocard wrote:
> Marcel Grunauer sent the following bits through the ether:
>
>> PS. "Harvey Nick's" (with a k; Patsy Stone would despise you for
>> this...)
>
> No, it's definitely a hard "ch"
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 01:14 PM, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
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>> Does that mean you unsubscribed him?
>
> Yes. If we want to be cliquey and elitist we can do so without upstarts
> like that coming along and upsetting us.
H
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 01:08 PM, Leon Brocard wrote:
> Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether:
>
>> Yum, does anyone know where I can get wasabi potato chips in London?
>
> Harvey Nichs, baby
careful with those words :)
PS. "Harvey Nick's" (with
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 02:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 12:44:23PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote:
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>> From outside the UK, there's Damian, dha, Paul M, I; Lucy and lathos
>> probably also qualify as far as I can tell. Marcel used to work in
>> London
>> (don't know
On Thursday, June 21, 2001, at 01:01 PM, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, will wrote:
>>
>> This is exactly the sort of cliquey elitism that is not good for
>> perl/linux
>> advocacy.
>
> Cooling off period I think. A short period of reflection before you
> resubscribe might be of
Here are some more books relevant to Perl:
Klingon for the Galactic Traveler (Star Trek)
by Marc Okrand
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671009958
The Klingon Hamlet
by William Shakespeare, Klingon Language Institute
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671035789
The Klingon Dictionar
On Tuesday, June 19, 2001, at 08:36 PM, Lee Goddard wrote:
>> But in all fairness, Attribute::Memoize and ::Abstract have
>> been rolled into ::Util and so shouldn't count anymore, but
>
> If the author in whose directory the file resides deletes it in via the
> PAUSE, it disappears off CPAN.
On Tuesday, June 19, 2001, at 07:02 PM, Richard Clamp wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 04:52:50PM +0000, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>> NAME
>> Getopt::Attribute - Attribute wrapper for Getopt::Long
>
> Ooo, finally an unklunky Getopt. Very nice.
Right; one way of u
On Tuesday, June 19, 2001, at 07:04 PM, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> We now have a new leader on the leaderboard,
>
> http://217.34.97.146/~gem/perl/lpm_cpan_lb.cgi
>
> (It's Marcel if you can't be bothered to look)
Hm. The modlist doesn't show
* Attribute::Util
* Attribute::Overload
* DBIx::
ve to establish defaults afterwards, like so:
my $verbose : Getopt(verbose!);
$verbose ||= 1;
BUGS
None known so far. If you find any bugs or oddities, please do inform
the author.
AUTHOR
Marcel Grunauer, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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