On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
> >> There are good american beers and chocolates. You're
> >> just not very likely to get either one over there.
> >>
> >> Ghirardelli makes decent chocolate.
>
> IIRC a number of us visited a Ghirardelli shop on Cannery Row
> in Monterey last summer. We
Lucy McWilliam wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
>
> > >> There are good american beers and chocolates. You're
> > >> just not very likely to get either one over there.
> > >>
> > >> Ghirardelli makes decent chocolate.
> >
> > IIRC a number of us visited a Ghirardelli shop on Ca
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 06:09:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> > What pretty pictures are those? we got plain colored lights and lights
> > that actually say "walk" and "don't walk".
> >
> I have some vague memory of somewhere where the signs "hel
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 02:45:52PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, David H. Adler wrote:
> > > I should also point out that I haven't paid much attention to the lights
> > > as anything other than vague guides since I got hit by a taxi while I
> > > had the right of way w
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 09:38:32AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > And here I thought you wanted to come back and visit sometime. I'll
> > alert the border guards... :-)
> >
>
> Don't do that, please DHA, the US has the most insanely tight sec
robin szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> A Brit whilst passing through immigration control in Sydney was stopped by an
> Australian immigration officer who asked him : " ... and do you have a
> criminal record?" .. to which the Brit replies "no, I'm sorry I don't ... I
> didn't reallise you
Nicholas Clark wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 06:09:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> > What pretty pictures are those? we got plain colored lights and lights
> > that actually say "walk" and "don't walk".
> >
> > I should also point out that I haven't paid much attention to the lights
> >
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 04:59:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
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>
>
> Oh, the "I'll be ba-ack" guy from 'California Man', known (for some
> reason) in the US as 'Encino Man'.
So as not to confuse the EVIL with the song by the Move, maybe? :-)
dha
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David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 11:17:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 06:09:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> > What pretty pictures are those? we got plain colored lights and lights
> > that actually say "walk" and "don't walk".
> >
> > I should also point out that I haven
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, David H. Adler wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 04:59:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> >
> >
> > Oh, the "I'll be ba-ack" guy from 'California Man', known (for some
> > reason) in the US as 'Encino Man'.
>
> So as not to confuse the EVIL with the song by the Move, maybe
Lucy McWilliam wrote:
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> > On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 02:45:52PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, David H. Adler wrote:
>
> > > > I should also point out that I haven't paid much attention to the lights
> > > > as anything other than vague guides since I got hit by a taxi wh
Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > And here I thought you wanted to come back and visit sometime. I'll
> > alert the border guards... :-)
> >
>
> Don't do that, please DHA, the US has the most insanely tight security
> of any country when it comes to g
> So far the worst passport control experience I've ever had was in
> Toronto, Canada. The USA/UK are tied for 2nd place, and everywhere else
> (various Euro destinations) has been easy-going by comparison.
c.f http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/canada.html
"Try getting through customs with a R
robin szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When trying to get $X+20 kilos of climbing gear into a $X kilo bagage
> allowance: pack anything sharp and dagerous into your hand bagage (ice
> screws, axes, crampons ) as these don't get weighed and are removed from your
> handbagage at the check-i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:29:03AM +0100, Sue Spence wrote:
> > > p.s. Of course the most fiendishly clever part of their security is
> > > the little questionnaire part, "Are you wanted for war crimes?",
> > > "Do you intend to blow up things while in the country?",
On 01/10/01 12:29 +0100, robin szemeti wrote:
> On Monday 01 October 2001 12:00, Simon Wistow wrote:
>
> > The worst experiences I've had have been Marrakech (they thought they saw a
> > bomb in my bag and ask me to unpack 4 weeks worth of hastily packed
> > climbing gear.
>
> Top Tips:
>
> Whe
On 01/10/01 14:05 +0100, robin szemeti wrote:
> still .. looks like Tony Bliar has decided we'll all be having compulsory ID
> cards soon, [ and presumably random stop-and-search powers to go with
> them, or there'd be no point having them ] and since all the terrorists will
> have "Occupation:
On 01/10/01 14:19 +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote:
> Probably shackled in a medieval dungeon with slime and mildew on the
> walls, where burly torturers wearing black hoods visit them twice
> daily for a quick stretching on the rack.
By the way, my tone in that last mail wasn't supposed to be at all
* robin szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> still .. looks like Tony Bliar has decided we'll all be having compulsory ID
> cards soon, [ and presumably random stop-and-search powers to go with
> them, or there'd be no point having them ]
Robin, i expect better from you, than this mad-liberali
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:36:44PM +0100, Sue Spence wrote:
> > Gee, I dunno. Is there anyone reading this thread who thinks these
> > questions are asked to disqualify anyone at point-of-entry? The form is
> > written in that manner simply so the US gummint can hav
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:25:17PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote:
> [civil libertarians are the antichrist]
> I almost broke my radio listening to the news this morning. I
> haven't been so angry since I had to listen to the justification of
> RIP.
This is one of the reasons I listen to Jazz FM i
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:25:17PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote:
> I almost broke my radio listening to the news this morning. I
> haven't been so angry since I had to listen to the justification of
> RIP.
And the Jack Straw interview on Friday?
Well, even if we do end up with ID cards, how can
* Sue Spence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> which may be used to drop-kick your butt out of the country if they can
> show you lied on the form
The real humour here, albeit black, is that governments need to be
able to prove someone lied on a form as it is a quick alternative
to proving them guilt
Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Do you know how many government depts currently suffer from the lack
> of interoperability with other Gov. depts because of the lack of a
> common ID? And what happens, the public complaigns about not having
> one gov. dept talk to another regarding th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:49:10PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> > because their breakfast presenter has such a fucking annoying voice that I
> > absolutely have to get out of bed to turn the damned thing off.
>
> I find Chris Tarrantm uch better for this.
I can als
robin szemeti wrote:
> trust me .. within a *very* short time of introduction they *will*
> be compulsory to carry at all times. the police *will* have powers
> to stop you and ask for yout ID card
That's what we have here in Germany; Germans a required to carry their ID
card with them at all tim
* Sue Spence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I just said that, and in so many words, so I don't quite understand why
> you have cut and retyped it?
Sorry I must of missed that point in the messages for today, anyway
apologies for the duplication your point, i'll try and disagree with you
in future
* robin szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> so i should be prepared to scrifice personal liberty for government
> efficiency ? .. nope .. try again.
so are you happy that you have an NI number so you can get benefits/
health care?
are you happy you have an address and postcode so you can recei
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> at the end of the day you have to give away personal ideals to live
> in a society, the value of the society in terms of personal liberty,
> is not how much information that have on you, but what they do with
> it.
As someone with
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:16:34AM +0100, Sue Spence wrote:
>
> The Move was a British pop/rock band from the days of yore (1960s) which
> eventually morphed into ELO some years later. Roy Wood wrote the (cool)
> song "California Man", IIRC it was The Move's last hit record.
Pretty much. Actual
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:07:18 + (GMT)
Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First time I was let loose in an American town I Jaywalked by way from
> one side to the other. The typical cross halfway, down the road a bit
> cross the rest strategy of road traversal it seems is not apprecia
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> As someone with a large interest in security, what all of your points miss
> is the idea of giving everyone the minimum information possible. Why give
> them an identity card with everything, when you can give them only your
> name or your name a
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:10:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > As someone with a large interest in security, what all of your points miss
> > is the idea of giving everyone the minimum information possible. Why give
> > them an identity card
DHA wrote, even though the quoting on the message I just replied to seems
to imply otherwise :
> Nope. The success of people like Pauly Shore (can't think of an English
> equivalent offhand - which I suppose is a good thing) is still
> unexplained.
Interesting.
Simon, Paul, Celia and I just wa
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:01:47PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > at the end of the day you have to give away personal ideals to live
> > in a society, the value of the society in terms of personal liberty,
> > is not how mu
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:01:47PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > at the end of the day you have to give away personal ideals to live
> > > in a society, the value of the soc
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 07:28:51PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> According to the radio today the subject of ID cards has been dropped.
>
> Now we can untwist our collective knickers.
No, it just gives us something else to argue about. We can play "spot the
conspiracy theory" as we figure ou
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