Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-27 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > >> There are good american beers and chocolates. You're > >> just not very likely to get either one over there. > >> > >> Ghirardelli makes decent chocolate. > > IIRC a number of us visited a Ghirardelli shop on Cannery Row > in Monterey last summer. We

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-27 Thread Sue Spence
Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > >> There are good american beers and chocolates. You're > > >> just not very likely to get either one over there. > > >> > > >> Ghirardelli makes decent chocolate. > > > > IIRC a number of us visited a Ghirardelli shop on Ca

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-30 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 06:09:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > > What pretty pictures are those? we got plain colored lights and lights > > that actually say "walk" and "don't walk". > > > I have some vague memory of somewhere where the signs "hel

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-30 Thread Lucy McWilliam
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 02:45:52PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, David H. Adler wrote: > > > I should also point out that I haven't paid much attention to the lights > > > as anything other than vague guides since I got hit by a taxi while I > > > had the right of way w

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-30 Thread sue gray
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 09:38:32AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > And here I thought you wanted to come back and visit sometime. I'll > > alert the border guards... :-) > > > > Don't do that, please DHA, the US has the most insanely tight sec

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-30 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
robin szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A Brit whilst passing through immigration control in Sydney was stopped by an > Australian immigration officer who asked him : " ... and do you have a > criminal record?" .. to which the Brit replies "no, I'm sorry I don't ... I > didn't reallise you

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-30 Thread Sue Spence
Nicholas Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 06:09:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > > What pretty pictures are those? we got plain colored lights and lights > > that actually say "walk" and "don't walk". > > > > I should also point out that I haven't paid much attention to the lights > >

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-30 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 04:59:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > > > Oh, the "I'll be ba-ack" guy from 'California Man', known (for some > reason) in the US as 'Encino Man'. So as not to confuse the EVIL with the song by the Move, maybe? :-) dha -- David H. Adler - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-09-30 Thread David H. Adler
On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 11:17:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2001 at 06:09:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > > What pretty pictures are those? we got plain colored lights and lights > > that actually say "walk" and "don't walk". > > > > I should also point out that I haven

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Lucy McWilliam
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, David H. Adler wrote: > On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 04:59:42PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > > > > > Oh, the "I'll be ba-ack" guy from 'California Man', known (for some > > reason) in the US as 'Encino Man'. > > So as not to confuse the EVIL with the song by the Move, maybe

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Sue Spence
Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 02:45:52PM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, David H. Adler wrote: > > > > > I should also point out that I haven't paid much attention to the lights > > > > as anything other than vague guides since I got hit by a taxi wh

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Sue Spence
Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > And here I thought you wanted to come back and visit sometime. I'll > > alert the border guards... :-) > > > > Don't do that, please DHA, the US has the most insanely tight security > of any country when it comes to g

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Simon Wistow
> So far the worst passport control experience I've ever had was in > Toronto, Canada. The USA/UK are tied for 2nd place, and everywhere else > (various Euro destinations) has been easy-going by comparison. c.f http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/canada.html "Try getting through customs with a R

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
robin szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When trying to get $X+20 kilos of climbing gear into a $X kilo bagage > allowance: pack anything sharp and dagerous into your hand bagage (ice > screws, axes, crampons ) as these don't get weighed and are removed from your > handbagage at the check-i

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Sue Spence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:29:03AM +0100, Sue Spence wrote: > > > p.s. Of course the most fiendishly clever part of their security is > > > the little questionnaire part, "Are you wanted for war crimes?", > > > "Do you intend to blow up things while in the country?",

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 01/10/01 12:29 +0100, robin szemeti wrote: > On Monday 01 October 2001 12:00, Simon Wistow wrote: > > > The worst experiences I've had have been Marrakech (they thought they saw a > > bomb in my bag and ask me to unpack 4 weeks worth of hastily packed > > climbing gear. > > Top Tips: > > Whe

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 01/10/01 14:05 +0100, robin szemeti wrote: > still .. looks like Tony Bliar has decided we'll all be having compulsory ID > cards soon, [ and presumably random stop-and-search powers to go with > them, or there'd be no point having them ] and since all the terrorists will > have "Occupation:

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Simon Batistoni
On 01/10/01 14:19 +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: > Probably shackled in a medieval dungeon with slime and mildew on the > walls, where burly torturers wearing black hoods visit them twice > daily for a quick stretching on the rack. By the way, my tone in that last mail wasn't supposed to be at all

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Greg McCarroll
* robin szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > still .. looks like Tony Bliar has decided we'll all be having compulsory ID > cards soon, [ and presumably random stop-and-search powers to go with > them, or there'd be no point having them ] Robin, i expect better from you, than this mad-liberali

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Sue Spence
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 12:36:44PM +0100, Sue Spence wrote: > > Gee, I dunno. Is there anyone reading this thread who thinks these > > questions are asked to disqualify anyone at point-of-entry? The form is > > written in that manner simply so the US gummint can hav

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:25:17PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: > [civil libertarians are the antichrist] > I almost broke my radio listening to the news this morning. I > haven't been so angry since I had to listen to the justification of > RIP. This is one of the reasons I listen to Jazz FM i

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:25:17PM +0100, Simon Batistoni wrote: > I almost broke my radio listening to the news this morning. I > haven't been so angry since I had to listen to the justification of > RIP. And the Jack Straw interview on Friday? Well, even if we do end up with ID cards, how can

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Sue Spence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > which may be used to drop-kick your butt out of the country if they can > show you lied on the form The real humour here, albeit black, is that governments need to be able to prove someone lied on a form as it is a quick alternative to proving them guilt

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Steve Mynott
Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you know how many government depts currently suffer from the lack > of interoperability with other Gov. depts because of the lack of a > common ID? And what happens, the public complaigns about not having > one gov. dept talk to another regarding th

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Steve Mynott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 02:49:10PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > > because their breakfast presenter has such a fucking annoying voice that I > > absolutely have to get out of bed to turn the damned thing off. > > I find Chris Tarrantm uch better for this. I can als

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Newton, Philip
robin szemeti wrote: > trust me .. within a *very* short time of introduction they *will* > be compulsory to carry at all times. the police *will* have powers > to stop you and ask for yout ID card That's what we have here in Germany; Germans a required to carry their ID card with them at all tim

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Sue Spence ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I just said that, and in so many words, so I don't quite understand why > you have cut and retyped it? Sorry I must of missed that point in the messages for today, anyway apologies for the duplication your point, i'll try and disagree with you in future

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Greg McCarroll
* robin szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > so i should be prepared to scrifice personal liberty for government > efficiency ? .. nope .. try again. so are you happy that you have an NI number so you can get benefits/ health care? are you happy you have an address and postcode so you can recei

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > at the end of the day you have to give away personal ideals to live > in a society, the value of the society in terms of personal liberty, > is not how much information that have on you, but what they do with > it. As someone with

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread David H. Adler
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 11:16:34AM +0100, Sue Spence wrote: > > The Move was a British pop/rock band from the days of yore (1960s) which > eventually morphed into ELO some years later. Roy Wood wrote the (cool) > song "California Man", IIRC it was The Move's last hit record. Pretty much. Actual

Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-02 Thread Sam Vilain
On Sat, 29 Sep 2001 15:07:18 + (GMT) Redvers Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First time I was let loose in an American town I Jaywalked by way from > one side to the other. The typical cross halfway, down the road a bit > cross the rest strategy of road traversal it seems is not apprecia

POLITICS: Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > As someone with a large interest in security, what all of your points miss > is the idea of giving everyone the minimum information possible. Why give > them an identity card with everything, when you can give them only your > name or your name a

Re: POLITICS: Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation)

2001-10-01 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:10:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > * Matthew Byng-Maddick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > As someone with a large interest in security, what all of your points miss > > is the idea of giving everyone the minimum information possible. Why give > > them an identity card

Films again (was Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation))

2001-09-30 Thread Mark Fowler
DHA wrote, even though the quoting on the message I just replied to seems to imply otherwise : > Nope. The success of people like Pauly Shore (can't think of an English > equivalent offhand - which I suppose is a good thing) is still > unexplained. Interesting. Simon, Paul, Celia and I just wa

Re: ID cards and the New Labour Totalitarian State (was Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation))

2001-10-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:01:47PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > at the end of the day you have to give away personal ideals to live > > in a society, the value of the society in terms of personal liberty, > > is not how mu

Re: ID cards and the New Labour Totalitarian State (was Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation))

2001-10-01 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 05:01:47PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 03:55:33PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > at the end of the day you have to give away personal ideals to live > > > in a society, the value of the soc

Re: ID cards and the New Labour Totalitarian State (was Re: Chocolate/beer (was Film Recommendation))

2001-10-01 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 07:28:51PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > According to the radio today the subject of ID cards has been dropped. > > Now we can untwist our collective knickers. No, it just gives us something else to argue about. We can play "spot the conspiracy theory" as we figure ou