Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-17 Thread Peter Sergeant
> Is this Schengen thing a recent thing? No, it's been around eight years. http://www.eurovisa.info/ It sounds highly possible you've gotten the wrong end of the shtick. +Pete

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-17 Thread Iain Tatch
On Thursday, July 17, 2003, 3:59:35 PM, Toby Corkindale wrote: TC> oh sh-t.. I'm heading to Germany early next month and don't have any special TC> visa's or anything.. TC> I've never really bothered with them before when visiting euro countries and TC> just waved my passport at people on the way

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-17 Thread Toby Corkindale
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 03:50:41PM +0100, Earle Martin wrote: > Some of you may have heard this from me, some not > > My wife, who is not from within the EU, requires a Schengen Visa[0] to come > with me to YAPC::EU. So, I just called the French consulate's visa > appointment booking line (whi

Re: Expletives (was Eurocracy sucks)

2003-07-15 Thread Earle Martin
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:07:48AM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: > Personally I gave up on work subscriptions to lists after a rather > unpleasant morning moving all my mailing lists when a company went > bust... In my case, it was back in 1999, when my boss at the time (a real queen bee type from the

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-15 Thread Earle Martin
Bonjour [EMAIL PROTECTED], You wrote: > But i think , BTW , that among the ideas you were given , the first one > (going to the embassy first thing in the morning and be prepared to spend > the whole day there) has really good chances to succeed . To check this out, I went to the embassy on my w

Re: Expletives (was Eurocracy sucks)

2003-07-15 Thread Richard Clamp
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:18:27AM +0200, Mark Overmeer wrote: > You probably mean > > grep -c 'f.ck' london.pm.mbox You trim too much. >> Obviously they weren't starred in the grep query. That would be >> silly.) -- Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Expletives (was Eurocracy sucks)

2003-07-15 Thread Mark Overmeer
* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030715 11:10]: > On 15/07/2003 at 01:03 +0100, Ivor Williams wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep 'f*ck' london.pm.mbox | wc -l > 216 > echo "cannot unlock my door" | grep 'f*ck' london.pm.mbox | wc -l 1 You probably mean

Re: Expletives (was Eurocracy sucks)

2003-07-15 Thread Roger Burton West
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 10:07:48AM +0100, Paul Mison wrote: >Perhaps that's a good idea. Either that, or collect it via a method >other than your employee's servers. Personally I gave up on work >subscriptions to lists after a rather unpleasant morning moving all >my mailing lists when a compan

Re: Expletives (was Eurocracy sucks)

2003-07-15 Thread Paul Mison
On 15/07/2003 at 01:03 +0100, Ivor Williams wrote: Interestingly enough, this message, and at least four of the replies to it have tripped the corporate dodgy word detector on-site where I am working (lurking). Whilst I fully concur with Earle's sentiments about the attitude of the French authori

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] lacravate
Hi , En ce jour du Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:20:11 +0100, Earle Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> parlait ainsi : > On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 05:19:13PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: > > Would it be possible to write up people's recommendations for visiting > > Paris and stick it somewhere online? > > My girlfri

Expletives (was Eurocracy sucks)

2003-07-14 Thread Ivor Williams
- Original Message - > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 15:50:41 +0100 > From: Earle Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Eurocracy sucks. > Organization: Strike Force for Indolence and Spiritual Beauty > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Some o

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Stéphane Payrard
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 05:19:13PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: > At 15:50 14/07/03, Earle Martin wrote: > > > >Likewise, I booked a room at this hotel: > >http://www.hostelparis.com/hosteldetails.php?HostelNumber=613 > > > >It's just under two miles from the CNAM, in the middle of Paris. The roo

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Earle Martin
I wrote: > Somehow I doubt that. As if that wasn't good enough, "Please note that if you are a citizen of Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Burundi, China (Public Affairs passports only), Colombia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Egypt, Indonesia, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, North Ko

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Jason Clifford
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Earle Martin wrote: > VISA ISSUING PROCEDURE Please note that all persons wishing to apply for > visas to visit France MUST make an APPOINTMENT BY TELEPHONE before > attending and submitting their documents in person at the Consulate. > > THE PHONE NUMBER IS : 09065 540 700 >

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Earle Martin
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 06:18:03PM +0200, Mark Overmeer wrote: > I do not know the exact rules, but you may go to any EU consulate > for a visum. Most will be faster than the French... You can apply for a Schengen visa at either the country the majority of your visit will be spent in, or, if you

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Earle Martin
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 04:47:06PM +0100, Jason Clifford wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Earle Martin wrote: > The solution is to completely ignore all this nonsense about making > appointments and just show up at the Embassy. You will have to wait most > (all?) of the day but you should get seen.

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Mark Overmeer
* Jason Clifford ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030714 17:49]: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Earle Martin wrote: > > My wife, who is not from within the EU, requires a Schengen Visa[0] to come > > with me to YAPC::EU. So, I just called the French consulate's visa > > appointment booking line (which costs a fucking

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Earle Martin
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 05:19:13PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: > Would it be possible to write up people's recommendations for visiting > Paris and stick it somewhere online? > My girlfriend and I have been meaning to go to Paris - though I'm not going > to YAPC. > > Perhaps we could pollute Gr

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Jon Reades
I've also discovered that, for some countries/visas at least, it is possible to have a company help you out (for a fee, of course). I don't recommend this in all but the most urgent cases, but a colleague of mine needed to get to Russia on short notice and found a company that took care of ever

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Alex McLintock
At 15:50 14/07/03, Earle Martin wrote: Likewise, I booked a room at this hotel: http://www.hostelparis.com/hosteldetails.php?HostelNumber=613 It's just under two miles from the CNAM, in the middle of Paris. The room has two beds and ensuite toilet, and costs GBP22 a head per night. Would it be

Re: Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Jason Clifford
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Earle Martin wrote: > My wife, who is not from within the EU, requires a Schengen Visa[0] to come > with me to YAPC::EU. So, I just called the French consulate's visa > appointment booking line (which costs a fucking outrageous pound a minute) > to try and get her one. > > Th

Eurocracy sucks.

2003-07-14 Thread Earle Martin
Some of you may have heard this from me, some not My wife, who is not from within the EU, requires a Schengen Visa[0] to come with me to YAPC::EU. So, I just called the French consulate's visa appointment booking line (which costs a fucking outrageous pound a minute) to try and get her one. T