Re: nms problem on (old) macs

2002-12-13 Thread Jon Reades
I went to http://sourceforge.net/projects/nms-cgi/ and was running OSX but attempted to use only OS9 applications while working with the two doanload packages. No problems encountered. Yes, an alias is *effectively* a symbolic link (I believe that there are some differences under the hood

Re: nms problem on (old) macs

2002-12-13 Thread Simon Wistow
him later: Shirely http://nms-cgi.sf.net/scripts.shtml :) I've just downloaded them both on my Mac (9.1) and Formail is present in both of them. There's no resource fork (oh ex-gruppenfuhrer - am I using the right words) which is fine because nothing apart from macs can read them anyway (resource

Re: nms problem on (old) macs

2002-12-13 Thread Paul Mison
of the world. I got a bit more information from him later: Shirely http://nms-cgi.sf.net/scripts.shtml :) Yes, that got me just now, because I'm only 25% into my bottle of Irn Bru. I've just downloaded them both on my Mac (9.1) and Formail is present in both of them. Yes, Stuffit Expander

Re: nms problem on (old) macs

2002-12-13 Thread Paul Mison
On 13/12/2002 at 11:32 +, Glyn Hughes wrote: If there's anyone out there who's still using MacOS 9 I'd appreciate a little help on an nms problem. I got and email the other day from a Mac user who said: The formmail.pl in your zipped archive is an alias on my Mac system

Re: aliases (was Re: nms problem on (old) macs)

2002-12-13 Thread Paul Mison
On 13/12/2002 at 08:29 +, Jon Reades wrote: On 13/12/2002 at 07:06 +, Dave Cross wrote: I assume that by alias he means some kind of symbolic link. I've Yes, an alias is *effectively* a symbolic link (I believe that there are some differences under the hood, but that's probably

nms problem on (old) macs

2002-12-12 Thread Dave Cross
If there's anyone out there who's still using MacOS 9 I'd appreciate a little help on an nms problem. I got and email the other day from a Mac user who said: The formmail.pl in your zipped archive is an alias on my Mac system, and is missing altogether in the tar.gz version! I assume

Re: nms advocacy opportunity for me ;)

2002-05-06 Thread Newton, Philip
Newton, Philip wrote: I took the opportunity and suggested the look into replacing their formmail script not with Matt's 1.92 but with the nms offering. Let's see whether anything will happen Update: I got this short reply from the Form Mail Abuse Team: Thank you for the information

nms advocacy opportunity for me ;)

2002-05-03 Thread Newton, Philip
My web hoster recently sent me email saying that they were upgrading their formmail script on 13 May and urged all customers who had installed their own copy to do the same. I took the opportunity and suggested the look into replacing their formmail script not with Matt's 1.92 but with the nms

Companies Using nms

2002-05-03 Thread Dave Cross
I'm trying to build up a list of companies using nms to put on the web site. Currently, I've got a number of ISPd who are recommending them to their clients, but it would be nice to be able to lsit some real companies to. Have you instelled nms scripts on any sites? And would they be happy

Re: nms advocacy opportunity for me ;)

2002-05-03 Thread Dave Cross
and suggested the look into replacing their formmail script not with Matt's 1.92 but with the nms offering. Let's see whether anything will happen That's excellent news. If you need any backup from the proejct tema then please let me know. Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay

Re: nms article online

2002-02-28 Thread Newton, Philip
Ivor Williams wrote: Still, I've not come across the programming language called Pen before :-) It's probably related to the language PerI (Per-capital-eye) which was also mentioned in the article several times. Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] All opinions are my own, not

Re: [Nms-cgi-devel] Re: Lightweight template module?

2002-02-28 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Andy Wardley wrote: Well, something like that It'll be great, honest Yeah, we believe you Andy, we believe you :) /J\ -- Jonathan Stowe | http://wwwgellyfishcom | This space for rent |

nms in Linux Format

2002-02-27 Thread Dave Cross
The new issue ot Linux Format (#25 - March 2002) has a small article about nms on page 16. It mentions london.pm a few times and is illustrated with the photo by Jeff Moore that we discussed here a couple of weeks ago. Enjoy, Dave... -- Don't you boys know any _nice_ songs?

Re: nms in Linux Format

2002-02-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 08:45:22AM +, Dave Cross wrote: The new issue ot Linux Format (#25 - March 2002) has a small article about nms on page 16. It mentions london.pm a few times and is illustrated with the photo by Jeff Moore that we discussed here a couple of weeks ago. You going

Re: nms in Linux Format

2002-02-27 Thread the hatter
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 08:45:22AM +, Dave Cross wrote: The new issue ot Linux Format (#25 - March 2002) has a small article about nms on page 16. It mentions london.pm a few times and is illustrated with the photo by Jeff Moore that we

Re: nms in Linux Format

2002-02-27 Thread Dean
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 02:33:23PM +, Dave Cross wrote: It's weird. Their website bears no relation at all to the magazine - other than a brief list of the contents of last month's issue. Linux Format seem to have their server cracked almost monthly[0] so they've probably got bored of

nms article online

2002-02-27 Thread Dave Cross
[x-posted. careful with those replies] See http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/art.html. Dave... -- Drugs are just bad m'kay

RE: nms article online

2002-02-27 Thread Ivor Williams
;-) But I realised that I was looking at a gif and you have OCR'ed the text below (Dohh! again) Still, I've not come across the programming language called Pen before :-) Nice write up though. How much take-up is there so far on NMS? Are there any webcounters on the site? It would be interesting

Re: NMS

2002-02-14 Thread Chris Benson
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:18:31PM +, Piers Cawley wrote: Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 31.5, and the winner is: SPAM: Content analysis details: (49.5 hits, 5 required) Yow! Looking at it, I have to think it is an example of spammer wit. The From: scores 5.8 by itself,

Re: NMS

2002-02-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Following comments here, I installed Mail::SpamAssassin in early January. It is a huge improvement on my previous Mail::Audit blacklist. Some spam still gets through, but way less than before ... What's your high score? Mine currently stands at 31.5 --

Re: NMS

2002-02-12 Thread Robert Shiels
From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 06:11, Simon Wilcox wrote: I shall, I'm interested to make sure that NMS has closed whatever hole is being probed for. Perhaps some of us (and I'm happy to help here) should poke around on more newsfroups, find places where people

Re: NMS

2002-02-12 Thread Chris Benson
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:26:52AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Following comments here, I installed Mail::SpamAssassin in early January. It is a huge improvement on my previous Mail::Audit blacklist. Some spam still gets through, but way less than

Re: NMS

2002-02-12 Thread Sue Spence
--- Robert Shiels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was very interested to find this site: http://www.allthingsperl.com/ particularly this quote: There are more than 500, if not a 1000 web sites out there that have something to do with Perl. The

Re: NMS

2002-02-12 Thread Piers Cawley
Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:26:52AM +, Piers Cawley wrote: Chris Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Following comments here, I installed Mail::SpamAssassin in early January. It is a huge improvement on my previous Mail::Audit blacklist. Some spam

NMS

2002-02-11 Thread Mike Jarvis
Anybody know somebody actually using the formmail.pl from NMS? I read on news.admin.net-abuse.email this morning that people are noticing a surge in probes for formmail.pl, for use by spammers. Might be nice to get a success story or two up on the page. Hell, success stories from users for any

RE: NMS

2002-02-11 Thread Richard Clyne
: NMS Anybody know somebody actually using the formmail.pl from NMS? I read on news.admin.net-abuse.email this morning that people are noticing a surge in probes for formmail.pl, for use by spammers. Might be nice to get a success story or two up on the page. Hell, success stories from

Re: NMS

2002-02-11 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 11 Feb 2002, Mike Jarvis wrote: Anybody know somebody actually using the formmail.pl from NMS? I read on news.admin.net-abuse.email this morning that people are noticing a surge in probes for formmail.pl, for use by spammers. I use it one one small site that we migrated from another ISP

Re: NMS

2002-02-11 Thread mallum
I know ybw.com were getting spam sent across there old formail.pl, I told the admin there about NMS and he dropped in the replacement and was impressed. -- mallum on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 05:29:27AM -0500, Mike Jarvis wrote: Anybody know somebody actually using the formmail.pl from NMS? I

Re: NMS

2002-02-11 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Mike Jarvis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2002-02-11 at 06:11, Simon Wilcox wrote: I shall, I'm interested to make sure that NMS has closed whatever hole is being probed for. Perhaps some of us (and I'm happy to help here) should poke around on more newsfroups, find places where

NMS

2001-11-28 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
I'm just about to try formmail.pl: -rwxr-xr-x dave/dave 2 2001-11-11 17:55:27 formmail/FormMail.pl -rwxrwxr-x dave/dave 20974 2001-11-11 16:48:50 formmail/README The README is nearly twice as big as the code! NMS++

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Dave Cross wrote: http://www.dave.org.uk/scripts/nms/ is more up to date. formmail has been deployed live too, by me for a customer on one of our servers. Somehow there's a little thrill every time I see that (c) London Perl Mongers strapline :-) Simon. -- I

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I thought that the NMS page at http://london.pm.org/cgi-bin/nms.pl was automatically rebuilt from the CVS repository every (mumble) hours. Am I misremembering? there has been some changes to CVS and there is no NMS on there now, if you want to check

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Dave Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/24/01 1:40:46 PM there has been some changes to CVS and there is no NMS on there now, Was this a result of the recent r00ting? Call me old fashioned, but if I put code under source code control then I like it to stay there until I remove

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 08:19:39AM -0700, Dave Cross wrote: My latest work was checked into CVS on Penderel. I'll check and see what I've got in my local copy. I would guess that what you checked into CVS is still in /home/cvsroot.old/nms Presumably that could easily be copied into the new

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/24/01 1:40:46 PM there has been some changes to CVS and there is no NMS on there now, Was this a result of the recent r00ting? indirectly yes, one of the volunteer admins asked if they could

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Dave Cross
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/24/01 5:05:22 PM If the CVS repository on Penderel is going to be transitory, then maybe I'll have to store it elsewhere. there seems to be some new projects now stored under CVS, however as the guys who admin the box do so on a voluntary

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 05:05:22PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: however as the guys who admin the box do so on a voluntary basis, i would take a personal backup of anything important you put on the box Where's the logic in that? Are volunteers more likely to make mistakes resulting in

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Redvers Davies
however as the guys who admin the box do so on a voluntary basis, i Where's the logic in that? Are volunteers more likely to make mistakes resulting in data loss than paid admins? Personally I expect Greg is reffering to accountability and sueability.

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It seems a little insulting to the voluntary admins (whoever they may be) to suggest that they're more likely to make mistakes than highly paid professionals... i was more implying that you had the right to bitch at paid professionals, with the

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Now I remember why I stopped drinking at lunchtimes. I have considered stopping my mail server from sending after pub closing time and then presenting me a list of what i like to term, Crap you wanted to send last night when pissed the next morning.

Re: NMS

2001-10-24 Thread Robin Houston
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 05:45:39PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: i was more implying that you had the right to bitch at paid professionals, with the people who currently admin the box the only right you have is to buy them beer ;-) I agree :-) sorry I misunderstood you .robin. -- Images

Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread Sam Vilain
I hear that one problem with that script is the security problem that if it is not altered, then it is possible to send mail from any address, effectively allowing you to spam with it. What I suggest for NMS scripts is that they have an internal configuration function, whereby the script

Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread Dave Cross
I suggest for NMS scripts is that they have an internal configuration function, whereby the script will refuse to run unless it is configured. In fact, if it is unconfigured, then present a configuration interface, unless they can't find an appropriate place writable to store configuration

Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 09:49:42AM +0100, Sam Vilain wrote: What I suggest for NMS scripts is that they have an internal configuration function, whereby the script will refuse to run unless it is configured. In fact, if it is unconfigured, then present a configuration interface Sound good

Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-18 Thread Newton, Philip
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:06:02PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Incidently, perlfaq9 says that when using sendmail from a Perl script, you should use the flags -oi -t -odq. I found that when I used -odq, the Well, I would have said you can use the flags rather

Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-17 Thread Neil Ford
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:06:02PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: I've just released a first draft of FormMail. It's at http://www.dave.org.uk/nms/ This appears to be 404ing :-( Neil.

Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-17 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 11:06:02PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: I've just released a first draft of FormMail. It's at http://www.dave.org.uk/nms/ I would have put it in CVS on penderel, but it seems to be configured so that only Greg can use it :) Incidently, perlfaq9 says that when using

Re: NMS [formmail]

2001-09-17 Thread Dave Cross
On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 06:09:21PM -0400, Chris Devers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Dave Cross wrote: I've just released a first draft of FormMail. It's at http://www.dave.org.uk/nms/ Trying trying again yep: 404 not found. You followed a broken or out