Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread Harry Lavender
Hi, You will need to install a different window manager, for example MATE, or LXDE, and then use it when logging in via LightDM, you can then set this as the default. MATE and LXDE do not use Compiz as their backend, so will not have the issues you are facing.

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike Cammilleri
I want to thank everyone for their suggestions. I'm definitely seeing better performance when trying different desktops. I guess I'm just surprised that LTSP documentation doesn't emphasize how useless an out-of-the-box install is with Ubuntu. Unity would be the default for anyone installing

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread Harry Lavender
Hi Mike, It's worth noting that quite a lot of people aren't using Ubuntu, and if they do, they install using the 64 bit 'Server' edition of Ubuntu, located here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server The above doesn't ship with a desktop environment, leaving people to install their own. I

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike Cammilleri
I may have just confused myself by blindly installing ubuntu-desktop package at the same time as ltsp-server using some online LTSP installation instructions. So perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what the 'default' setup would likely be. I always struggle with finding the best instructions for

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread John Hupp
You have to see the right source reading, which is hard to find, but I was aware that Alkis G and other prime movers don't much like LTSP with Ubuntu 14.04. Alkis' summary is (in Greek) at http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=5857.msg66678#msg66678 Google translates this roughly as

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike Cammilleri
More info! I was using a Zotac ZboxSD-ID13 for my thin client which has Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3150 graphics. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173036 I added 4GB of RAM when I was troubleshooting. I also had Firefox and Google Chrome running as local apps.

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread John Hupp
Good to know. I was aware that graphics chipsets and drivers can make a big difference, but it's always helpful to get specific info about what works and what doesn't. Someone may know how to make the Intel GMA 3150 perform better via entries in LTS.CONF or otherwise, but I myself don't have

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-17 Thread Mike Cammilleri
Another easy question (I'm assuming)... I originally installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit Server (Alternate CD) and then I installed various desktop environments like Awesome, Xfce, MATE, etc. Is there an advantage I'm missing out on by not installing Xubuntu, Lubuntu, or some other flavor that

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-16 Thread James Linder
On 17 Nov 2014, at 7:09 am, ltsp-discuss-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: I have tried setting up an LTSP server as a VM and I have the same problems. So perhaps it is my thin-client. A couple things regarding Harry's suggestions as well How does one get rid of compiz or

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-12 Thread Paweł Ptasznik
kupa kupa kupa 2014-11-11 9:56 GMT+01:00 Harry Lavender harry.laven...@severndelta.co.uk: Hi Mike, Unity works very poorly, it's unusable in my experience. If you remove compiz, Unity will cease to function. Instead, install a different window manager, such as gnome flashback. But, if you

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-11 Thread Harry Lavender
Hi Mike, Unity works very poorly, it's unusable in my experience. If you remove compiz, Unity will cease to function. Instead, install a different window manager, such as gnome flashback. But, if you use gnome, make sure the backend is metacity, both are installed by default. Another option

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-10 Thread Harry Lavender
Are you sure you're not using Compiz? Compiz is horrifically slow for us using LTSP, and isn't even slightly usable, so instead we use either metacity or MATE. Good luck! On 10/11/14 00:56, Michael Pope wrote: Mike, On 08/11/14 07:23, Mike Cammilleri wrote: So I've been experimenting with

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-10 Thread jef peeraer
could QT be the problem? We experienced some serieus slowdowns with the new QT rendering, see https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:KIWI-LTSP_troubleshooting at the bottom of the file. jef Op 11/10/2014 09:49 AM, Harry Lavender schreef: Are you sure you're not using Compiz? Compiz is horrifically

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-10 Thread Mike Cammilleri
Thanks Michael, I have tried setting up an LTSP server as a VM and I have the same problems. So perhaps it is my thin-client. A couple things regarding Harry's suggestions as well How does one get rid of compiz or disable it? If I apt-get remove compiz it will also remove ubuntu-desktop.

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-10 Thread Mike Cammilleri
By the way, this is my thin-client - and I'm using the VGA connection. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173036 On 11/10/2014 09:34 AM, Mike Cammilleri wrote: Thanks Michael, I have tried setting up an LTSP server as a VM and I have the same problems. So perhaps it is

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-10 Thread Mike Cammilleri
Hi Harry, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS out of the box, so I'm getting the Unity desktop environment which I think uses compiz does it not? Perhaps I should be trying other desktop environments such as Xfce and see if there's better performance? I've never tried metacity or mate. Our users have

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-09 Thread Michael Pope
Mike, On 08/11/14 07:23, Mike Cammilleri wrote: So I've been experimenting with various hardware for our LTSP servers. Everything from VM's to this current Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz (12 core) with ~48GB of RAM. (Dell Poweredge). Thin client is a Zotac ZboxSD13-ID13 with 4GB

[Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-07 Thread Mike Cammilleri
So I've been experimenting with various hardware for our LTSP servers. Everything from VM's to this current Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz (12 core) with ~48GB of RAM. (Dell Poweredge). Thin client is a Zotac ZboxSD13-ID13 with 4GB of RAM and an Intel Atom D525 (1.8 GHz, dual-core).

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-07 Thread Mike Cammilleri
Oh and i should mention I've been running both Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 LTS. And scrolling is one of the biggest problems. Scrolling a PDF in either firefox or Acroread is bad, and just scrolling web pages. Waiting for big chunks at a time. On 11/07/2014 02:23 PM, Mike Cammilleri wrote: So I've

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-07 Thread Richard Doyle
On 11/07/2014 12:23 PM, Mike Cammilleri wrote: So I've been experimenting with various hardware for our LTSP servers. Everything from VM's to this current Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 0 @ 2.30GHz (12 core) with ~48GB of RAM. (Dell Poweredge). Thin client is a Zotac ZboxSD13-ID13 with 4GB of

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] slow performance, where to start?

2014-11-07 Thread James McQuillan
This sounds like a video driver issue on the client. It's probably using the default Vesa driver. Unfortunately, I've been away from ltsp too long to remember what you need to change it to, and how to change it. Jim McQuillan j...@ltsp.org On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mike Cammilleri