[luau] Re: language services

2003-02-22 Thread Roderick Gammon, Ph.D. (AEG, Inc)
Aloha- Eric's comments on GET are great, although a little different from my own pov. Regarding GET out-of-state exemptions, "True, true." I've benefited from them and I see at least one reason for them- to 'incentivize' bringing mainland money here. But I'd still argue for a full consultant G

[luau] THIS ENDS NOW

2003-02-22 Thread Warren Togami
LinuxDan wrote: Scott How can you say this when there are three non-profits here on Oahu that support Opensource. Not only that but your one of your Directors of HOSEF personally threatened the DOE, that is Warren Togami who threatened Wes Koga. Why would someone be so stupid to threaten the D

Re: [luau] Linux makes the cover of Business Week

2003-02-22 Thread Jim
LinuxDan wrote: Scott How can you say this when there are three non-profits here on Oahu that support Opensource Remember the guote: "The enemy > is We" ,... Believe it was Pogo who said;"We have met the enemy and he is us" possibly Walt Kelley,the author,

[luau] Spam

2003-02-22 Thread xxd
Congratulations guys: I'm gone. Two days on this list was more then enough for the rest of the decade. -- xxd -- ___ Lo Tek Sym Designs )_ ( '-,) ) _( )

Re: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-22 Thread Vince Hoang
Please, take it offline. Otherwise, the trolls win.

RE: [luau] Linux makes the cover of Business Week

2003-02-22 Thread LinuxDan
Scott How can you say this when there are three non-profits here on Oahu that support Opensource. Not only that but your one of your Directors of HOSEF personally threatened the DOE, that is Warren Togami who threatened Wes Koga. Why would someone be so stupid to th

Re: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Saturday 22 February 2003 06:25 pm, LinuxDan wrote: > Scott > I believe the Directors should resign and allow the > original LUAU creators to return and run it more proficiently. That is a great suggestion. I have no idea who they are, but surely they can return and make

RE: [luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-22 Thread LinuxDan
Scott I believe the Directors should resign and allow the original LUAU creators to return and run it more proficiently. I would say that fewer than 1% of all list emails fall into the category of flames. Sadly, these are generated by the name calling of Joe Linux and the t

[luau] Trolls win when people quit

2003-02-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
I would say that fewer than 1% of all list emails fall into the category of flames. Sadly, these are generated by the name calling of Joe Linux and the tauntings and teasings of Linuxdan. Simply blocking these subscribers, or ignoring their posts, will free you from the burden of the ensuing

[luau] Linux makes the cover of Business Week

2003-02-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/toc/03_09/B382203linux.htm Above is the link to the online article. Don't you feel the change coming? Aren't you glad that you belong to an Open Souce community like LUAU? Other than getting frustrated with the occasional flames on this list, what have yo

[luau] users meet

2003-02-22 Thread Vince Hoang
Apologies in advance to the non-Oahu members. Given the recent threads (both high and low quality), I am wondering if the list members would be interested in a little get together. We can talk about geeky stuff, like why vim rocks, how a dual BSD/GPL license is essentially BSD, what I got wrong i

RE: [luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-22 Thread LinuxDan
Unsubscribing also. Those of you whom are mature enough and dedicated as well to Opensource can address me personally also. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MonMotha Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 2:45 PM To: [

[luau] MonMotha Leaving

2003-02-22 Thread MonMotha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To make sure people see it in case they've tuned out the flame fest threads, I'll post this as a top level thread. I'm unsubscribing from LUAU due to the recent flamefests. I'll return once "JoeLinux" has either been removed or controls are in place

Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread Vince Hoang
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 01:44:45PM -1000, LinuxDan wrote: > THIS LISTS NEEDS A REFEREE Please stop feeding the flames. The only mediator needed is the one buying the beer when people meet face to face. Simple list guidelines that work not just for luau, but any list: 0) Do not reply off topic 1)

Re: [luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-22 Thread MonMotha
MonMotha unsubscribing. Please address me personally if you need something. --MonMotha

RE: [luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-22 Thread Dustin Cross
I apologise to the list for that, I ment to send that to Dan only. Dusty

RE: [luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-22 Thread Dustin Cross
Dan, Please take your ANTI-LUAU/ANTI-HOSEF crap somewhere else!! Dusty > I love this list. I have gained so much support for my non-profit > group so keep up the good work :o> >

Re: [luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-22 Thread Dustin Cross
Tom, Please don't leave the list! These types of e-mail should not be allowed, but I don't think we want a moderator, so this will happen. Everyone should ignore it and send a personal e-mail to the offender asking them politely to NEVER do that again. All of the conflicts on this list revolve

RE: [luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-22 Thread LinuxDan
I love this list. I have gained so much support for my non-profit group so keep up the good work :o> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Donahoe Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Moderation--of al

RE: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread LinuxDan
THIS LISTS NEEDS A REFEREE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Goad Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming How about a little diplomacy? This list should have

[luau] Moderation--of all kinds

2003-02-22 Thread Tom Donahoe
On 2/22/03 10:36 AM, "Kevin Goad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about a little diplomacy? This list should have a mediator. > > Hi All-- Kevin, I agree a little more diplomacy is in order. It is disappointing that there has been so much pettiness on this list of late. I thought we were

[luau] Re: language services

2003-02-22 Thread Eric Jeschke
| As for legislation- here's what language services (and tech consulting) | needs to take off- - ** exempt consulting from the GET ** Only two states in | the union tax consulting income such as tech support and translation. Whip | out a slide rule, give yourself an extra $0.04 on each dollar and

Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread MonMotha
Joe Linux wrote: Just a friendly reminder. You never sent me the money for the disk drive as your stated publicly on this list. Please send it promptly or I will have to take further action. Being almost completely neutral here I will state this. THIS WAS UNCALLED FOR. This should have b

RE: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread Kevin Goad
How about a little diplomacy? This list should have a mediator. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Togami Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming Joe Linu

Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread Warren Togami
Joe Linux wrote: Just a friendly reminder. You never sent me the money for the disk drive as your stated publicly on this list. Please send it promptly or I will have to take further action. Excuse me? On two occasions I sent you a direct e-mail after that point asking if you could pick up

Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
It is against list policy to discuss another member in the way that you have so I will ask you to please respect the civility of the list by abstaining from such taunts. Contact this individual personally if you have issues. I promise you, Joe, we are far more aware of your feelings than any o

[luau] Givebacks & A Little History

2003-02-22 Thread Joe Linux
The facts of the matter are that this is not a "giveback" in the true sense of the word; because on many occasions Warren, after insulting me in an unfounded and non factual manner, would then "offer" to give me the money for the drive back. When I finally said yes, I would take it, Scott Belf

Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread Joe Linux
I already sent it to both you and Warren in a previous private email; however, it is Warren who constantly insulted me in an unfounded manner, not you or any other member of HOSEF.  I would have been glad to contributed to HOSEF, with my time and labor, but Warren ended up making it very uncomf

Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Saturday 22 February 2003 07:22 am, Joe Linux wrote: > Just a friendly reminder. You never sent me the money for the disk > drive as your stated publicly on this list. Please send it promptly or > I will have to take further action. Now that LUAU and MPLUG are sponsored by HOSEF, I will arran

[luau] Re: our economy

2003-02-22 Thread maddog
I have lived here for nine years now and have to agree with Scott and partly with Vikram. Part of it is our payment in "sunshine dollars" but the biggest part is a good ole boy mentality with a small group of businessmen controlling most of what goes on in this economy. Why would they want thing

Re: [luau] Friendly Reminder - Quote Trimming

2003-02-22 Thread Joe Linux
Just a friendly reminder. You never sent me the money for the disk drive as your stated publicly on this list. Please send it promptly or I will have to take further action. Warren Togami wrote: Hi. This is a friendly reminder about "Quote Trimming", a usual bit of etiquette that makes re

Re: [luau] Redhat Linux Certificated for Gov't use

2003-02-22 Thread Casey Roberts
--- Karen Lofstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the same vein, I suppose everyone else saw the > bit on Slashdot re the NSA enhanced security version > of Linux? I didn't explore the links in > detail. Are we going to be able to see the source > code on that or do we have to trust the NSA and u

Re: [luau] HOSEF is lonely without you

2003-02-22 Thread Casey Roberts
Scott- I apologize for not coming by, especially since it is so close to the house, but I wasn't sure about the experience needed. Now that I know that I can help more than hinder, I would like to come by on Tuesday, since of the two days that would be better for me. Is there anything I can brin