and then add
more later. I bought one and the fan is silent. You need their latest
rev though. I heard earlier revs had louder fans.
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. And since you'll
misinterpret me no matter what I say, there's really no point in
responding...
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! :)
As the saying goes, 2 + 2 = 5, for sufficiently large values of 2
Slashdot doesn't think so: http://images.slashdot.org/topics/topiced.gif
I'm buying you one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/60f5/
What size do you weear?
Thanks, for proving my theory.
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This is all very odd...
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of this was that you did find one mistake I
made. If there's an error in a technical discussion, the members of this
list deserves to know about it. I think that's appropriate for this list.
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make
them the same.
Many people appear to mistake Scott Belford for HOSEF, are you one of
them?
Scott Belford created HOSEF. When the creator of HOSEF says HOSEF=LUAU,
that has implications.
I'll respond to your critique of my earlier posts in another reply.
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see what tune Scott has changed. But I
haven't read much from Scott about the GPL lately. So I'll have to take
your word for it.
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, what
did you think I meant when I said 'sharing of this source code?
Looks like disagreeing with me has become your hobby...
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P.S. Just as an experiemt: 2 + 2 = 4. And I mean it too! :)
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Vince Hoang wrote:
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 11:52:20PM -1000, Jimen Ching wrote:
I think if you subscribe to this list for a while, the ratio
of bickering to technical discussion should go down. ;-)
I certainly welcome more bickering/debates on technical merits
succeed or not. Only time will tell.
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Jim Thompson wrote:
(sections of the above are lifted from a recent speech by Eben Moglen)
Very zen. I wonder if he talks like that in court rooms. ;-)
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on LUAU before? When people are passionate
about something, heated debates will occur. This is free and open source
software. It's all about the passion. No one is getting paid for
this, so what else is there if not passion?
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not publicly) for choosing to do what they do. Again, that's
just the way I am. I guess our philosophy of life is very different.
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on me? Jim
Ok. I have to admit. Wayne got a little preachy there...
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else to maintain that
software which your livelyhood now depends. Oh great, now I'm getting
dramatic. ;)
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. And I know
for a fact, she's not lazy, and she doesn't have an agenda. At least not
about Free Software.
Sheesh, ease up a bit...
What I said.
Ditto.
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really annoying. It's like you're trying to pick an argument or
something. Am I that hard to understand?
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006, Jim Thompson wrote:
Wayne is not your mother.
You never know... ;)
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006, Julian Yap wrote:
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 13:25 -1000, Jimen Ching wrote:
YOU don't NEED to care. A lot of people don't NEED to care. As long as
there are people who do care and are willing to fight for those rights.
You'll continue to enjoy the benefits. That's how
. As long as
there are people who do care and are willing to fight for those rights.
You'll continue to enjoy the benefits. That's how it worked in the past.
That's how it's going to work in the future. What you're seeing now is
just the process...
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back into
history and find out why ESR creatd this term in the first place; how this
term differs from 'Free Software', and then think about what Microsoft and
Novell is doing to redefine what is considered 'Open Source'. Then,
you'll understand...
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will provide
directions.
Anyone know if I can configure the modem under Linux? Has anyone gone
through the setup procedure and can give me a description of what happens?
Thanks...
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/0,39020330,39277835,00.htm
I followed this link and couldn't figure out what 'directed self-interest'
means. How does one apply this term to FOSS?
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is an extreme act,
and not the norm of skillful activity.
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is a manual labor type
work, rather than intellectual type work. For instance, you don't hear
lawyers or doctors hacking at anything. When someone use that term for
doctors, it is usually meant in a derogatory manner. I.e. 'that doctor
did a hack job on his patient.'
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was a relatively recent event.
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up
looking at a computer monitor anyway.
A face-to-face meeting is good for brain-storming and other group related
activities. Programming is not just sitting at the keyboard and typing.
Good programming should also involve interactions with peers and end
users.
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The benefit of seeing an entire page of code is orthogonal to the size of
the screen. I've read code that is 5 pages long on a GUI (with the IDE
maximized). There are benefits of 80 column limits beyond that of vt100
terminals. Viewing source code side-by-side, for one.
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, I'm using the Debian testing distribution. libflash (GPL Flash)
isn't available for this distribution.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Hi all,
I've just re-installed the package and it works now. Sorry for the noise.
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discussing electric cars, powered by fuel
cells, batteries or even (plug in) hybrids.
You sure have a knack for missing the point, or at least misunderstanding
it.
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Wayne was trying to do. And isn't that the FOSS way?
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operations over the network isn't
going to be fast.
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that we aren't using anti-matter or something? This just
shows the gap in the CS world between those who understand and those who
don't. In this day and age, you'd think the gap is narrowing. But it
seems to be widening...
/soap box
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as:
http://lists.hosef.org/mailman
Following that link gives an error.
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Hi all,
Is an archive of this mailing list available?
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believe it's 14.4k, I
haven't used it in almost 10 years. I don't know if it still works. It
was working last I used it. If you want to give it a try, you can have
it for free.
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that is totally devoid of Redhat.
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of the available options. My conclusion is that it's
not a filesystem problem. It's the buffer cache, I'm sure of it.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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, Qt was new to us, so
modifying it wasn't an option.
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was to reduce risk, we try to accomodate Redhat as
much as possible. And we also needed Qt support, which pulled in X.
So we needed about 128meg. Although we didn't need all of it. We want to
improve on this, of course.
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Jim Thompson wrote:
Sure. Lots of people get started this way. If you want an afternoon of
me coming in to explain the challenges (my only fee is that the coffee
must be good) and pitfalls, just ask.
I'll keep you in mind when we get deeper into it. Thanks.
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, how long will it be before we see an 8051 clone that
actually could boot linux?
Is there a requirement for the 8051? I believe the 2.6 kernel supports
the H8/300 microcontroller. Granted, the H8/300 is more powerful than the
8051, but it's still a microcontroller.
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Jim Thompson wrote:
hi, my name's jim (kimo?), and I'm a {gentoo, debian, embedded, but
never red hat if I can help it} linux user.
What kind of embedded work do you do?
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(is this still what the department is called?) has changed a
lot since then. Though the ICS department weren't known for their cutting
edge research, even with a few famous professors.
When you say embedded Linux, do you mean uClinux or just a stripped down
distro?
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the PowerPC route, but we never built a
linux system from scratch before, so we chose x86 and Redhat to reduce
risk.
I'll go checkout this Familiar distro...thanks.
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, MonMotha wrote:
Jimen Ching wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, MonMotha wrote:
but I need to make sure that if an X server gets shutdown or
disconnected, the app doesn't die (just sits in the background, still
running, but not visable) until I can attach it to another X server
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, MonMotha wrote:
but I need to make sure that if an X server gets shutdown or
disconnected, the app doesn't die (just sits in the background, still
running, but not visable) until I can attach it to another X server.
You can do this with VNC.
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in it.
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Debian does it. Of course, Debian also
distributes patch packages. I was never able to find patch packages in
Redhat.
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that might expose the problem in the vanilla
kernel.
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.
Then, there is the issue of whether the GPL will bind you forever. Both
issues have been advanced by David Boise of SCO.
The GPL is based on copyright law. It binds you for the same duration as
copyright binds you.
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to
leach off others. What is that? How does one justify something like
that?
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, gdb can only hit this breakpoint once.
1
2 int main()
3 {
4 int x = 0;
5 for(x = 0; x 10; x++)
6 {
7 printf(the value of x is %i\n, x);
8 }
9 return 0;
10 }
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/2003/10/14/cz_dl_1014linksys.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL
How about http://www.bitlaw.com/?
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interpretations are open. There's really no point
in theorizing.
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, the concept of shared libraries haven't even been
developed yet.
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.
However, because size of the OS plays a big part in embedded systems you
are limited on what you can and cannot do.
Usually, RTOS' are very small. Or they can be configured to be very
small. Even Linux can be small, if you removed all unnecessary features.
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still might run into problems. The question is, how much hand-holding do
you require? Its all a matter of risk management.
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used script/enscript to capture
everything at the console and email it to us.
The alternative is to bring your system to HOSEF tomorrow. I'm sure
someone there would be able to help you. Unfortunately, I'll be busy
tomorrow, so I can't be there.
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is built into
the kernel, try building a module instead. Or if its a module, build it
into the kernel.
As for the hanging. I would disable networking during boot. Then
manually configure it after bootup until it works. Then, you can
re-enable networking at bootup.
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destination. If you can get to this site, then
it could be a router problem. I also don't see the router in your arp
table.
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(buffer, 0, sizeofbuffer);
used somewhere once, but after a long day, that looks wierd to me.
If by weird, you mean it will crash. Yeah, this is weird. ;-)
I think you meant memset. memcpy takes two buffers.
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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Randall Oshita wrote:
Same drive but different label. Get SCSI if you want performance and
reliability. Cost more though.
What is your source for SCSI drives?
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On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Randall Oshita wrote:
Oh yea, I almost forgot try CompUSA as they can be reasonable on the
business services.
I cheched CompUSA. I didn't find any SCSI drives in the hard drive
section (i.e. next to the video card section). Is the SCSI drives
somewhere else?
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experience.
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performance benchmarks. I did
some searchs on hyperthreading benchmarks, and none of them indicate
anywhere near that kind of performance increase. The performance
improvements are usually under 10%.
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that need a 64bit
processor.
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of
changing the hostname?
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subscribe and see what I can
learn. Thanks again.
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because of the hyper technology. He had to disable this feature to get
the kernel to boot.
I would be interested in finding out if you were able to get linux to boot
with this feature enabled.
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user intervention. Is this what we are talking
about?
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, then it should be reported as a
bug. Please let me know if you find a case where it doesn't work
properly and I will report it through the proper channels.
I'll bring this up at work. Thanks.
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is
not as mature as Linux on x86. But for the parts that I care about, it's
close enough. ;-)
Below is an email I wrote to the HMAUS mailing list.
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Here
like to know if there
are security and privacy issues with DHCP. If such issues exist, they
should be brought up with the IETF working group. After all, the link I
provided earlier was to a draft only.
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mainly looking for hardware information, since I have no plans to
install MacOS X on my system.
Thanks in advance.
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explaining what behavior you are experiencing.
Explain it in as much detail as possible. You'll get more help that way.
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host name is not only safe but also something that the Internet community
considers useful.
Let this be the end of this thread. Thanks.
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, LinuxDan wrote:
The first is bolder (46869)
On my screen, it's only slightly bolder. Hardly worth mentioning.
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with it is via a serial port or a JTAG emulator. Comparing these two
environments, its pretty clear which one is 'embedded'.
Every time I hear someone talk about 'embedded Linux', I just have to give
off a little chuckle. ;-)
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of this year and next, that
Jimen Ching be the IO, and that Ray Strode be the TO. All this would be
officially conducted within the context of a meeting with minutes. Feel
free to decline or suggest others. Keep in mind that in the decades to
come, there is time for everyone to lead
project ongoing with a workable model
that is really interesting. Maybe someone out there would like to get
involved and gain some background knowledge at the same time.
Is there a mailing list for this project? Where can one go to
participate?
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g++ is actually
getting the library and the assembler/linker. Knowing where it is
searching only tells us where it _might_ get these files. The -v tells us
where it _actually_ gets it.
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the
compiler was built.
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the wrong files. If you send me the output of
the compile and link, I can comment whether they are correct.
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guess if you've done it before, you have the
benefit of experience. But if I were to start from scratch, I wouldn't do
anything GUI based in C. The GUI domain is perfect for the OO
methodology. And like Eric said, using C to emulate OO is just evil.
;-)
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applications that run on top of the microkernel.
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a group is in brainstorming sessions. You
can throw out an idea and have instant feedback. Using email requires
lots of preparation. IRC helps a little. But trying to explain things
with IM is really annoying. Maybe it's just me.
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, that is the purpose of a troll.
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, and the members seem to do
fine without one.
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in what I believe to be the wrong
direction, or get into a flame war. In both cases, it is a lose-lose
situation.
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of
policies will change that.
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is getting ridiculous.
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On 18 Oct 2002, Warren Togami wrote:
Yes, and now you're going on my blacklist. I can't stand you.
Could you put me on your blacklist as well? And I'll do the same for you
on mine. Thanks.
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tend to put it all in the same email. It is easier for me to
compose the email and follow the thread.
This is just how I do things.
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a group. I knew people from work who contribute to free
software. But we have different interests, so we never hooked up.
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read anything that suggests I can't use /proc instead of /dev. Has anyone
done this before?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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