Re: reinstalling ubuntu 12.10

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hello Paul, 250GB is the capacity of your HDD You do have an External HDD 2GB RAM And your partitions are a bit of a mess :D Well, this is what I would do if I were you: 1- BACKUP each and every important file to my external HDD 2- IF and ONLY IF you want to get rid of the whole thing and start

Before buying a new hardware, read this story :)

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
> My wife needed a new printer. I went in to PC World intending to get an HP > Deskjet 2510 all-in-one printer. The Nottingham branch of PC World doesn't > stock it, and showed me instead an Advent Touch Print printer as this was > the same low price - ?30. > > I'm really pleased with everything ex

Fwd: Cadence Week 10 -- Readying for the final release!

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi, I know I'm *not* in charge of Lubuntu QA nor doing this on someone's else behalf, I'm just someone who is trying to help as much as he can so I'm forwarding this email and I guess it is my last forwarded email for this cycle :D I won't bug you more with this kind of emails :D But you need to

Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
All: I have been observing a problem where on slow (450 megahertz) machines, the software updater window disappears, and the updates are applied in the background, with no notification of completion. I tried applying updates using terminal commands: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
I always use: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade at the command line. "dist-upgrade" is equivalent to "upgrade" + it removes obsolete packages. When upgrade gets back at the command prompt, the upgrade process has finished (reasonably). Ioannis Vranos http://www.cppsoftware.net

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Dear Aere, I'm really sorry, I couldn't read each and every word because this is indeed a very long email but I did get the idea :) Please, read this carefully: 1- When you have LESS than 1GB RAM, SWAP Partition MUST be as twice as your RAM. Having that said, Your SWAP Partition in your case MUS

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Further to my previous reply, I forgot to include two links: 1- This will explain how important it is to have SWAP and how important it is to have it twice as RAM when Physical RAM is 512MB - http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/04/howto-heavy-testing.html

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/13/2013 12:19 PM, Ioannis Vranos wrote: I always use: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade at the command line. "dist-upgrade" is equivalent to "upgrade" + it removes obsolete packages. When upgrade gets back at the command prompt, the upgrade process has finished (reasonably)

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 18:28, Aere Greenway wrote: All: I have been observing a problem where on slow (450 megahertz) machines, the software updater window disappears, and the updates are applied in the background, with no notification of completion. I tried applying updates using terminal commands: sudo

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Mr Wislr
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Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 19:47, Mr Wislr wrote: zram can be very helpful in very low ram situations as well I have found zram to be quite useful in machines with 128MiB to 1.5GiB of RAM. Below 128MiB it seems to slow things down too much and above 1.5GiB it doesn't seem to matter whether zram, a swap parti

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 20:08, Yorvyk wrote: On 13/04/13 19:47, Mr Wislr wrote: zram can be very helpful in very low ram situations as well I have found zram to be quite useful in machines with 128MiB to 1.5GiB of RAM. Below 128MiB it seems to slow things down too much and above 1.5GiB it doesn't seem to

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, one of things not yet done is to have a test of the lubuntu updates, As with laptop testing being called in at Beta2, I only ask for update ISO to be tested at RC time. If our testers have time, they can check out the terminal command for a forced upgrade along with the ISO at any point. Well

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/13/2013 01:08 PM, Yorvyk wrote: On 13/04/13 19:47, Mr Wislr wrote: zram can be very helpful in very low ram situations as well I have found zram to be quite useful in machines with 128MiB to 1.5GiB of RAM. Below 128MiB it seems to slow things down too much and above 1.5GiB it doesn't se

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
Yes, dist-upgrade= update+ remove obsolete packages. It does NOT upgrade you to another Lubuntu version. My original text should have been: "dist-upgrade" is equivalent to "update" + it removes obsolete packages. When update gets back at the command prompt, the update process has finished (rea

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
I really messed this text today. The correct version: "dist-upgrade" is equivalent to "upgrade" + it removes obsolete packages. When updating gets back at the command prompt, the update process has finished (reasonably). Ioannis Vranos http://www.cppsoftware.net -- Lubuntu-users mailing list

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/13/2013 02:02 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: one of things not yet done is to have a test of the lubuntu updates, As with laptop testing being called in at Beta2, I only ask for update ISO to be tested at RC time. If our testers have time, they can check out the terminal command for a forced

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
To Upgrade to the next stable version: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Upgrading_from_12.04 To force upgrade to the next Beta version: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_12.10 Note: Force upgrade to Beta versions is NOT for daily use. Only for testing :

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 21:24, Ioannis Vranos wrote: I really messed this text today. The correct version: "dist-upgrade" is equivalent to "upgrade" + it removes obsolete packages. This may be a misunderstanding of what you mean by obsolete but dist-upgrade doesn't delete obsolete packages. From synaptic

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Thanks Steve, there are moments when I could strangle our comms TL; but, he does try things from a newcomer perspective. I only ask that he post up working results and leave the rest for his blog. Regards, Phill. On 13 April 2013 21:43, Yorvyk wrote: > On 13/04/13 21:24, Ioannis Vranos wrote:

Live Example - "apt-get upgrade" VS "apt-get dist-upgrade"

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hello, Long Story: *sudo apt-get upgrade * sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic The following packages will be upgraded:

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/13/2013 10:28 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: > Repeating the "sudo apt-get upgrade" step responded with something about > the (new kernel) change being "held-back". > > This made me lose all trust in the terminal method of updating, because > when I apply updates, I want them all to be applied -

Re: Live Example - "apt-get upgrade" VS "apt-get dist-upgrade"

2013-04-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Ali, On 04/13/2013 01:52 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > apt-get dist-upgrade can upgrade your Kernel. > apt-get upgrade can not. > > That is all :) Please do man apt-get to understand the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. Your above statement perhaps happened t

Re: Live Example - "apt-get upgrade" VS "apt-get dist-upgrade"

2013-04-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 22:09, Jonathan Marsden wrote: Ali, On 04/13/2013 01:52 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: apt-get dist-upgrade can upgrade your Kernel. apt-get upgrade can not. That is all :) Please do man apt-get to understand the difference between apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade.

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
Yes, today is not a good day for me. :-) I confused apt-get dist-upgrade, with other distributions' package system (yum upgrade). Sorry for the confusion. Anyway, to be accurate, from apt-get documentation: dist-upgrade dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, let us not even start with yum Vs apt :P Why is Alien available :D Regards, Phill. P.S. And before grammar nazis start to complain, alien does a pretty good job. On 13 April 2013 22:17, Ioannis Vranos wrote: > Yes, today is not a good day for me. :-) > > I confused apt-get dist-upgrade,

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/13/2013 12:26 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: Now, please, follow these steps: 1- Make sure your SWAP is 1GB at least. 2- From LXTerminal or whatever Terminal you are using, please run: sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo apt-get autor

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
"dist-upgrade" includes the functionality of "upgrade", so no need to do both. Ioannis Vranos http://www.cppsoftware.net On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 04/13/2013 12:26 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: >> >> Now, please, follow these steps: >> >> 1- Make sure your SW