>Hope the folia was by Corbetta!
Probably more Marais oriented. The Corbetta folia in Dm at the end of
Le Guitar Royal is too harmonically sophisticated for their usages. I
did here some substitution chords though. It would be a nice
soundtrack album to have.
>I don't think I have seen the fil
Hi Benjamin,
I use Finale 2004 and have great results. I've been using the program since
version 3.0 and find it quite easy to use. The version I have now let's me
create templates for any number of strings and tunings and prints out
beautifully. People complain about the learning curve, which is
I interviewed Crawford Young a year and a half ago. The editors of
the LSA Quarterly have been encouraging me to finish transcribing the
interview for an upcoming issue. I transcribed about 30 minutes and
still have another 60 minutes or so to go. I just have been so busy
and it's been hard to
Dear lutenists
Dr. Marion Ceruti wrote:
> Maybe a musicologist will discover a
> manuscript that explains all this so we can stop wondering about it.
> Until that time, I will try to keep my left thumb out of sight of the
> audience when playing.
Well, in an original and old (about 1990) phot
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>From : "Roman Turovsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To : "Vance Wood" [EMAIL PROTECTED],"lute list" lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Cc :
Date : Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:32:45 -0500
Subject : Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes
> > As to the u
Monica Hall wrote:
> Another example perhaps of how uninformed film makers are about musical
> matters. Everything is authentic to the last detail except the music.
You've seen a period movie in which everything is authentic to the last
detail?
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I have been working on the layout of the next LSA Quarterly and there is an
ad from the Boston Early Music Festival which mentions the Borus Goudenow
opera that they are putting on and in the small print it mentioned (along
with a nice lute duet concert by Paul O'Dette & Stephen Stubbs) a concer
I agree with Jim. For my lutes, I always have the "acceptable &
appropriate" position of the thumb behind the neck,. but when I play my
alto & soprano vihuelas, the thumb pops up naturally. No, I do not stop
notes with the thumb.
ed
At 09:43 PM 2/14/2005 -0500, James A Stimson wrote:
>De
> One thing to bear in mind when looking at 16th-century portrayals of
> lutenists is the character of the lutes and their necks. If the neck is
> narrow, as on a five- or six-course lute, with an "elliptical" shape, the
> neck naturally settles in the "V" between the thumb and forefinger. For
> th
Dear All:
One thing to bear in mind when looking at 16th-century portrayals of
lutenists is the character of the lutes and their necks. If the neck is
narrow, as on a five- or six-course lute, with an "elliptical" shape, the
neck naturally settles in the "V" between the thumb and forefinger. F
Now all this discussion has me wondering if
F. da Milano might have used his left thumb
for the following passage at the end of one of
his fantasias:
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That may be true, but were the playing complex counterpoint and doubled
strings? If this is so perhaps we should study Gypsy 7 string guitar
technique.
VW
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Sent: Monday, Febr
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From: "G.R. Crona" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:16 AM
Subject: [Vds: Sv: lute siting]
>
>>
>> Fra: G.R. Crona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Dato: 2005/02/14 Mon PM 02:21:41 CET
>> Til: Ed Durbrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> CC:
> As to the use of the LH thumb to stop strings. In order to do this it is
> necessary to couch the neck in the palm of the left hand. If this was an
> occasional event the musician was required to make this shift and then shift
> back to the more raised fingers anchored thumb position. I find t
To whom it may concern:
Not meaning to be rude but due to the way this site is set up it is
sometimes impossible to determine whose message I may be responding to.
With that in mind I will share some of the things I know and some of the
things I think I know and perhaps guess at a couple of others
>Another example perhaps of how uninformed film makers are about musical
>matters. Everything is authentic to the last detail except the music.
>
>Cheers
>
>Monica
>
Oh yeah, its sometimes just ridiculous:) --like for example on this movie i
saw sometime ago, there was this real romantic scen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Indeed, there are lute tablatures available on the programme. However, not
> for several important tunings
if one is to generalize the software so it can deal with any tuning, and one
expects the program to handle playback, there will be a need for the program to
be
Roman Turovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> One major problem in Sibelius is that the input is MOUSE based, which means
> it is a lot more harmful to hands and wrists than DJANGO and FRONIMO that
> permit keyboard input for the bulk of labor.
well, my software allows and encourages the use of the
Denys Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Dear Vance,
> Forgive me for challenging you on this, but it's my understanding
> that the lute typically in use for the greater part of the 16th century
> was a 6 course instrument
however, it was towards the end of that century that wider necks with mo
In a message dated 2/14/05 3:29:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Fronimo had MIDI playback capability from the very beginning, even directly
from tablature. 8^)
Francesco >>
Hi, Francesco --
Woops, very sorry for the oversight! I must have remembered this detail
incorrectly because when I
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Denys Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: Re: Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes
In fact, one
> of the
> prime examples of pictorial evidence of what we are talking
> abou
Dear Denys,
>Dear Marion,
I think it's probably possible to play the entire
6 course lute repertoire without ever resorting to
using the left hand thumb to stop a note. I think too,
that one could argue that a left hand technique
for the lute closely based on modern classical guitar
methodology is
> Dana Emery's re-emergance onto the lutenet has reminded me of a quetion I've
>
> been meaning to ask for ages. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what
>
> programmes to use for editing tablature? (On a Mac?)>>
>
> I use Sibelius and love it, and have learned to do basically what I want wi
In fact, one
> of the
> prime examples of pictorial evidence of what we are talking
> about is the well known supposed portrait of Francesco da Milano, which
> could give us cause to reappraise our ideas of what his playing
> technique was actually like. We can be sure that he habitually played
Dear Marion,
I think it's probably possible to play the entire
6 course lute repertoire without ever resorting to
using the left hand thumb to stop a note. I think too,
that one could argue that a left hand technique
for the lute closely based on modern classical guitar
methodology is the most effi
> Fronimo is great for Windows platform, though it doesn't have
> the feature I love in Sibelius, which is its midi playback capability.
Fronimo had MIDI playback capability from the very beginning, even directly
from tablature. 8^)
Francesco
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Dear Denys:
Actually by the 1650's the Lute was having additional courses added to it
and most of the six course instruments were being converted. I agree, it is
possible on a six course Lute. However I don't see how it would be possible
to play much of Milano's music that way and still preserve
Hi, Benjamin --
In a message dated 2/14/05 9:36:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Hello,
Dana Emery's re-emergance onto the lutenet has reminded me of a quetion I've
been meaning to ask for ages. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what
programmes to use for editing tablature? (On a Mac
Dear Vance,
Forgive me for challenging you on this, but it's my understanding
that the lute typically in use for the greater part of the 16th century
was a 6 course instrument, and that the few surviving original necks
are narrow (e.g. Gerle& Magno Dieffopruchar). Using left hand thumb
stopping of
Dear All,
I did some research on this several years ago and
subsequently wrote an article for the Lute Society
which goes into the issue in too much length to reproduce here.
However, the first paragraph might help to support the
view that the left thumb was used to stop basses on
6 course lutes:
In reality; unless you have only a six course Lute with a narrow neck I
don't see how using the thumb to stop anything (but the mobility of the
other four fingers) is going to be possible unless your thumb is very long,
your neck very narrow and you are not playing counterpoint.
Vance Wood.
-
Hello,
Dana Emery's re-emergance onto the lutenet has reminded me of a quetion I've
been meaning to ask for ages. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what
programmes to use for editing tablature? (On a Mac?)
I recently did some work for the Finn twins who created Sibelius, and they
gave me
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From: LGS-Europe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 14, 2005 2:57 AM
To: Stephan Olbertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: temperaments
Of course musicians complain, they're human. Especially fretted members.
Singers don't notice, they just sing out o
At 05:19 AM 2/12/2005, Martin Shepherd wrote:
>The modern 12-string guitar is tuned in octaves on the lowest three courses.
More often, the lowest four, only b and e' being in unison.
Best,
Eugene
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>
> yes - after sending my previous message I thought the player in the
> painting would look a bit like a Rock- or Blues-Guitarist.
>
> Best wishes
> Thomas
>
Its strange; I must have completely misremembered a discussion of the left
hand thumb to fret notes in some lute music.
Perhap
yes - after sending my previous message I thought the player in the
painting would look a bit like a Rock- or Blues-Guitarist.
Best wishes
Thomas
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Thema: Re:Antwort: left hand thumb to stop bass notes
> This would apply
> This would apply on the early romantic guitars with the more narrow neck
> less than to modern classical guitars.
Or in the blues guitar!
Paolo
>
> Best wishes
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> am 14.02.2005 00:27:41
>
> An:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Kopie:
>
> Thema: left hand th
Dear Stephan
>>
Do in your experience other ensemble members ever complain over having to
cope with the cembalist's irregular temperament with lots of different half
tone steps, thirds etc. ?
<<
;-)
Of course musicians complain, they're human. Especially fretted members.
Singers don't notice,
Hi!
I don't think it makes much sense stopping strings with the LH thumb on the
lute. Most old tutors suggest a position of the left hand similar to modern
guitar technique (with the left hand thumb in the middle - or below - of
the back of the neck).
I don't think the lute player in the pai
Dear David,
thanks for your answer. You wrote:
> Jägermeister III. I have to play irregular temperaments occasionlly.
> Werckmeister-variants, 'Bach' temperament (...?); things harpsichordist
> invent. I can do this a little when playing continuo, because I can choose
> which notes to use and whi
Yup, completely different wrist position. I can't speak to the lute, as I'm
too new (but I'm not sure I could find a use for a thumb stop except for an
unusual "open" chord, or sequence. But the painting you direct us to could
also be a "soft thumb" as the player turns to his fingers on the first
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