for those of us who are curious and extremely well
off, over on mike's oud site there's this mention of
an interesting, very old (1733), six-string lute for
auction on ebay (us) with a swan's neck peg box:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-6-chord-Lute-by-Johann-Christian-Hoffmann-1733_W0QQitemZ7405469411
for those of us who are curious and extremely well
off, over on mike's oud site there's this mention of
an interesting, very old (1733), six-string lute for
auction on ebay (us) with a swan's neck peg box:
I would tend to think it is a fake.
In the late 19th century they often used more or less original labels to
increase the value of their fake instruments.
The instrument itself very much looks like a wandervogel instrument and as far
as I can judge watching the pictures i don't see any parts
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: 1733 ebay lute for a mere ...
I would tend to think it is a fake.
In the late 19th century they often used more or less original
labels to increase the value of their fake
Acoustic instruments usually have higher action than electric guitars and
consequently a great absolute error tolerance. And gut (and nylon) are
considerable more forgiving than steel.
Beyond that, it's careful measurement, careful construction, and a good
set of files for adjusting the nut and
in this week's economist (apr 1-7) there's an article
on a pipa player - wu man, by name - in which the
sound of her instrument is likened to pearls falling
onto a jade plate.
would anyone care to wax lyrical over the sound of a
lute?
- bill
early music charango ...
Hello,
lutes have the additional advantage that the action can be corrected be moving
the string up and down at the bridge. No need to file or even switch to nasty
German rasp-work.
Nevertheless, it is correct what Doctor Oakroot says about the various aspects
of lutemaking where a certain
I'm with Thomas. The very open rose and the moustach-looking bridge remind me
of the wandervogels we see on ebay regularly. How about the frets? They
certainly aren't tied. Are they fret slots cut with a very fine saw and
intended for modern metal frets?
On the one hand, the guy has
From what I am hearing about this instrument I would take a close look at
it, in my rear view mirror moving away from it at a rapid pace. I think you
are going to get taken if you purchase this instrument.
Vance Wood.
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From: Steve Ramey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
All,
I have brightened, enhanced and enlarged the pictures and made them
available at http://RobDorsey.com/Lutes/Hoffmann.htm . My comments are at
the bottom of that page. If interested, take a look and draw your own
conclusions.
Best,
Rob Dorsey, Luthier
Florence, KY
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At 12:01 PM 4/7/2006, Rob Dorsey wrote:
All,
I have brightened, enhanced and enlarged the pictures and made them
available at http://RobDorsey.com/Lutes/Hoffmann.htm . My comments are at
the bottom of that page. If interested, take a look and draw your own
conclusions.
The scrap of paper above
It appears to be a 19th or 20th century conversion or rip-off of an older
Lute. It obviously has metal or Guitar like frets, the peg box is not
original and the bridge again looks like it might possibly have, or at one
time had, a saddle like a Guitar. This is what we used to call a Galute.
The
The very open rose and the moustach-looking bridge remind me of the
wandervogels we see on ebay regularly.
Wandervogels do not have double courses. Double strung replicae only
started to appear from Markneukirchen in the 1960ies. But this
instrument appears to be a little older than that.
I
In a message dated 4/7/2006 9:38:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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would anyone care to wax lyrical over the sound of a
lute?
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on Francesco da Milano:
they remained deprived of all senses save that of hearing, as if the spirit,
having
In a message dated 4/7/2006 9:38:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
in this week's economist (apr 1-7) there's an article
on a pipa player - wu man, by name - in which the
sound of her instrument is likened to pearls falling
onto a jade plate.
would anyone care to
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for the pearles are not to be cast before the Swine
Unless the swine have jade plates.
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And a luthier will not be inclined to use a Holtzapffel lathe.
I prefer my wooden apples carved and rasped, not turned.
--
Dana Emery
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and Caroline Usher
Does a good lute builder know everything about fine woodworking?
Or are there areas of cabinetmaking, carving, modeling, etc which
require interesting knowledge that a lute builder doesn't need?
well, not all who build lutes will be
On Mon, Apr 3, 2006, David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
In reference to modeling, specifically shipmodeling: even though
It's possible to build a model ship without ever actually having put
to sea, wouldn't some sort of sailing experience constitute part of
the accomplished ship
As the movie trailer said, Hee's back,
Woodworking and luthiery. I haven't read the entire thread as I've been a
bit busy with all the damned doctors keeping me alive (and they've done a
good job, I expect make it another 30 years and check out when I reach three
digits, or later).
I do work
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