[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-13 Thread David Tayler
You can't put a price on instant gratification. On the other hand, you can get a world class theorbo in six months for euro 5000. I think you have to play the instrument first, then see if you want it. some of van der waals instruments are very nice. I would pay a high price for a really good in

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-13 Thread sterling price
Hi-I have often wondered about van der Waals, like is he still building and where? Does he still take orders? Sterling - Original Message From: Alfonso Marin To: Arto Wikla ; lutelist Net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:16:00 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-13 Thread Alfonso Marin
Dear Arto, Nico van der Waals is an emblematic maker with a reputation as solid as Michael Lowe. I payed 8250 Euro for this theorbo back in 2002. You certainly can get cheaper instruments but if you are really interested on playing something really special by one of the pioneers of lute m

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-13 Thread wikla
On 2/13/2009, "Alfonso Marin" wrote: >I am offering my Theorbo by NIco van der Waals for sale. .. > Selling price is 7900 . The instrument really looks very beautiful! But is this really the price level of today? 7800 euros for a quality theorbo? In that case I am a rich man! On the othe

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Leonard Williams
Martyn-- I'll second the recommendation for abctab2ps. It does a variety of tab styles as well as staff notation (multiple staves, an assortment of clefs, lyrics), and tab with staff. And it's free. Christoph Dalitz keeps the program well-maintained, and the manual for it is very clear.

[LUTE] Re: Lute song pitch for singers

2009-02-13 Thread David Rastall
On Feb 13, 2009, at 4:18 PM, wrote: > If a singer needs to sing it lower, that is more than a whim. > Often vocal > material is composed at the extremity of the average range to > achieve a > particular musical effect; when the original pitch was not aD0 this > further strains the vocalist. Agre

[LUTE] Lute song pitch for singers

2009-02-13 Thread demery
I both sing and play (tho not at the same time, a limitation). If a singer needs to sing it lower, that is more than a whim. Often vocal material is composed at the extremity of the average range to achieve a particular musical effect; when the original pitch was not a=440 this further strains th

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread David Rastall
Transposing any song is easy. You just sing it lower, or higher, or whatever. I imagine it's transposing the lute part that poses the problems. If you're particular about playing the exact thing that Dowland wrote, only to pitch it a step lower, then the best thing would be to play it on a lute

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel Winheld
>I could tune down to 415 but I'm not sure she'll go for that. If your string tension is not too light, down a half step often works. Depending on other factors, of course, the lute may sound even better. Down a whole step could be disaster without a whole re-stringing job, and we do not wa

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread demery
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009, Martyn Hodgson said: Several have mentioned lilypond. It is a work in progress and has demonstrated to me a lot of growing pains and inconsistancies. It can do nice work, but at some cost; rather like the initial versions of Quark Express. You will need lots of room on dis

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel Winheld
Rebutting myself here, any new mind tricks for a new situation (good practice at home) can go right out the window once you're actually doing stuff live in concert; if you have the time written out transcriptions in any format that you can read/play in your sleep is going to be far preferable o

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread Daniel Winheld
Read the notation as if you were playing in the original key on an A lute. Any experience reading guitar notation (except for the 2 staff actual octave pitch) one simply pretends to be back on the guitar, but with an additional high a string. Of course A tuned theorbists would also find this pr

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread demery
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009, Caroline Usher said: >I could tune down to 415 but I'm not sure she'll go for that. so long as it holds for the whole program and doesnt delay things, why not? Best if you restring so the instrument is still lively. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see l

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread David Tayler
I routinely play lute songs down a whole step and that is normally the best transposition. If reading it down a step is daunting, just download the Fronimo file from Sarge's website and have the computer do a rough transposition. You will have to clean up some of the voice leading. I also keep

[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread alexander
Tune the lute down to English consort pitch (a-392, the whole step below a=440). A very nice sound, really! On the other hand, "Time stands still" plays quite well in F, with F 7th course. "Come ..." not as well. alexander >A singer has asked me to accompany her on "Come heavy sleep" and "Ti

[LUTE] Transposed Dowland songs??

2009-02-13 Thread Caroline Usher
A singer has asked me to accompany her on "Come heavy sleep" and "Time stands still." The problem is, she wants to sing them in F (down a whole step) because it's a better range for her voice. Has anyone tried transposing them down? Any thoughts on how well (or not) this works?

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Another nice facility of the full version of Finale over the very severely limited Finale Notepad is that the full version of Finale does have a fully-functional "Rapid Entry" tool based entirely upon keystrokes. With a little practice, the basics of notation move very quickly with it. ..And did

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Finale Notepad does have some pretty severe limitations (or at least did) compared to the full version, like the inability to notate modulation or time signature changes. However, its greatest current limitation may be that the new version of Notepad is no longer free. You can download it for US$

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread William Brohinsky
Caveats for Finale Notepad: This is a very very pared-down version of finale. That means that you get all the problems without the facilities to fix them (spider-thin staff lines and barlines, which are more than an annoyance to folk with less-than-perfect vision, including us older folk) and the

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Taco Walstra
O > >All these programs do not run easily on windows, but it's possible to > > install even on windows or apple OS a virtual pc with linux where you can > > run this. > > This is not true. > In the past installing Lilypond on a Windows system was a nightmare but now > it is very easy Denemo, NoteE

[LUTE] Re: Gabriel-Bataille

2009-02-13 Thread Anthony Hind
Chris, it was Arto kindly brought the site to our attention. and also mentioned the Bataille facsimiles of which there are six on the site. I just scanned the data base for "luth" and found two other facsimiles : Robinson's TheSchooleOfMusicke and Antoine-Francisque's Le-Tresor-dOrphee http://ww

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
-Original Message- From: Taco Walstra [mailto:wals...@science.uva.nl] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:51 AM To: hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk; lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views? On Friday 13 February 2009, Martyn Hodgson rattled on the keyboard: >I'm sorry fo

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > Dear Martyn, > There is a simplified free version of Finale called 'Notepad' > which is worth trying - see www.finalemusic.com I'd second that: excellent program. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www

[LUTE] Theorbo by Nic. Nic. B. van der Waals for sale

2009-02-13 Thread Alfonso Marin
Dear all, I am offering my Theorbo by NIco van der Waals for sale. It is an excellent instrument in mint condition. I am selling it because I am developing some back problems and I would like to concentrate on my archlute continuo playing. It is also quite large (82 / 167 cm) for my

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread denysstephens
Dear Martyn, There is a simplified free version of Finale called 'Notepad' which is worth trying - see www.finalemusic.com Best wishes, Denys Quoting Martyn Hodgson : > > >I'm sorry for introducing a non-lute note into these communications, >but I'd be grateful for views on the

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread jan
Martyn, if you are happy with a somewhat old-fashioned user interface (i.e. typing in text, like to 'tab') have a look at abctab2ps, which can produce beautiful scores and handle lute tablature as well. [1]http://www.lautengesellschaft.de/cdmm/ Best regards Jan Johansson

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Taco Walstra
On Friday 13 February 2009, Martyn Hodgson rattled on the keyboard: >I'm sorry for introducing a non-lute note into these communications, >but I'd be grateful for views on the best FREE computer software for >writing staff notation; ie something like Sibelius or Finale, but >free.

[LUTE] Re: Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Omer Katzir
Try Lilypond. It's not like Finale or Sibelius, but it's much better, and free. It's take a while to hang on in it, but it worth the time. On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: I'm sorry for introducing a non-lute note into these communications, but I'd be grateful for v

[LUTE] Staff notation software - views?

2009-02-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'm sorry for introducing a non-lute note into these communications, but I'd be grateful for views on the best FREE computer software for writing staff notation; ie something like Sibelius or Finale, but free. I've tried Muscore which, seems to me, to have some problems but perhap