[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread Ron Andrico
What I find most shocking/surprising in this kind of music (as it is realised in modern editions) is seeing what looks like a simple melodic line which, if it were in 4/4 would be a simple as could be. But it's not on the the beat at all! But there is a beat and some

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
The main problem with modern performers trying to read old music in modern editions is that musical phrases are disguised and truncated by bar lines, which said performers seem to need. there are a few editors who address this issue, ogni sorte for example; even one older editor

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
French Secular Music of the Late Fourteenth Century edited by Willi Apel? that repetoire is more than juicy; its the renaissance equivalent of bebop jazz. More reasonable will be found in Odhecaton, Canti-B, Canti-C and the Lieber der Fridonlin Sichery (Schott edition by fj geisbert may

[LUTE] Re: French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-12 Thread Stephen Arndt
Arto wrote: Yes, I do know this is an ad in vain..., no interest in the List -- as usual. Dear Arto, Please do not assume that lack of response equals lack of interest or appreciation. I, for one, greatly admire your work and have enjoyed your videos over and over, and I am quite

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
Jon Banks has been championing a repertoire (some textless chansons and other things) from around 1500 which he argues is for lute trio (or a trio of plucked instruments, probably of different sizes). 1500 is probably publication date, well after that material was new and popular. Printing

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread demery
nedma...@aol.com wrote: You all must have been really good sight readers! At the time I was paying with a Collegium Musicum that was the typical repetoire, and, yes, we were all at least good at sight reading from necessity. I was also active in church choir, a madrigals group, and a choral

[LUTE] Re: French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-12 Thread wikla
Dear Stephen (and all), thanks! I understand, and I think you are right. I just had a little bit too much wine, and a temporary Net depression... Now I am a little ashamed... And everything is ok again... :-) All the best, Arto On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:59:23 -0500, Stephen Arndt

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance

2009-09-12 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Dana, I do agree that barlines are a nuisance and have to be, if not forgotten, at least used for what they are : a mere division of the sheet in more or less coherent cells, but of course by no means a rhythm dictate, the musical discourse generating its own rhtyhmical fluency. On the

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance - not much juice

2009-09-12 Thread Stuart Walsh
Ed Durbrow wrote: Please do. On Sep 12, 2009, at 7:35 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: (I can put up some juicy examples if anyone is interested) Well I'm going to have to backtrack a bit here! Maybe 'juicy' was over-colourful. I'm an amateur and approach these things from the perspective of an

[LUTE] Lute shopping advice?

2009-09-12 Thread seth . appel
Hello! I am brand new to this list but have already been very entertained by the conversation. Recently someone asked for some advice on purchasing a lute and I was a bit surprised by the lack of responses. I am assuming a public forum is not a comfortable place to discuss the pros and

[LUTE] Re: French baroque, Lully and theorbo

2009-09-12 Thread Thomas Schall
I wholeheartedly second Stephen's opinion. All the best Thomas To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Imbalance - not much juice

2009-09-12 Thread Nedmast2
Thanks, Stuart. Fun stuff! I would say get a couple of other lutes (preferably), or recorders or viols and enjoy yourselves. Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lute shopping advice?

2009-09-12 Thread Guy Smith
If it's your very first lute (i.e., you don't yet own a playable instrument), one important issue is how long you will have to wait. Some luthiers can satisfy an order within a few months to a year, others have waiting lists of many years. I recently received a lute from a well-known luthier that