Dear lutenists,
Esaia Reusner's famous compositions Neue Lauten-Fruechte (Berlin,
1676) and Hundert Geistliche Melodien Evangelischer Lieder (Berlin,
1676) are widely recognised as brilliant landmarks in baroque lute
history. The printed version of Neue Lauten-Fruechte contains
On 30 August 2011 10:27, andy butler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Beginner's questions.
Is the superiority of gut down to the shorter sustain time
that someone mentioned earlier?
Is string damping really unpopular? (unnecessary?)
No such thing as a beginner's question.
Superiority is not
On 30 August 2011 10:38, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
imprefect in many ways.
As is my spelling ...
[On] another level, their imperfectiong
.. and my grammar.
David - doing something else in the mean time, no multi-tasking for me
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I agree with David. However, from the dimmest corner of my memory bank,
I think Mersenne (or someone else!) indicated the bass strings should
have a sustain of 20 or so heartbeats [forgive me if I am getting this
all wrong!]. How long that might be depends on whether you are playing
The superiority of gut is chiefly that it was the material used by the
Old Ones. If we have any pretensions to attempting to reproduce the
sounds these early lutenist composers expected and their auditors
heard, it is necessary to employ the same string materials.
MH
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There is a great likelihood that our gut is rather acoustically different
from their.
Lets not forget to use the honest modifier approximation of.
RT
- Original Message -
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; andy butler akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
I agree that gut strings are very pleasant to play on, but the biggest
contribution to the sound of the instrument comes from the musician. A
great lutenist can draw a much better quality of sound from a poor lute
with nylon strings than a poor lutenist can from a very fine lute
I agree totally with you and I will add: I don't want to spend so much money
in fragile and expensive strings to play most of the time only for myself,
and I dont want to spend so many time to tune my instruments, while my
playing time is limited (as I have a daily job outside of music...).
I
Or, As I enjoy assuming, the old ones used the best they had, and if
they'd had epoxy glue and nylon strings that's what they'd have used... :-)
Things can get endlessly circular in these beliefs. I just like how well
the early music is written! The stuff plays itself without a lot of
Reminds me of the cover to this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Your-Accomplishments-Suspiciously-Hard-Verify/dp/1449401023
Chris
--- On Tue, 8/30/11, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings?
To:
Well, maybe not epoxy...
In any event, all arguments of what *they* might have done if they'd had
*whatever* on hand are moot if they didn't. Corbetta had no fluorocarbon;
Bach didn't own a Steinway grand; etc. I have no idea what musical tools
may be available five decades into the future, but
in a -
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/audio/338.mp3
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/images/338.pdf
in c -
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/audio/337.mp3
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/images/337.pdf
in g -
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/audio/336.mp3
This discussion would make a lot more sense if posters explained what gut is
being compared to. In some cases, it's overwound strings, and in others, it's
plain nylon.
On Aug 30, 2011, at 5:00 AM, andy butler wrote:
Are there any players who reckon that damping is essential?
Tympanists,
On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:45 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote:
However, from the dimmest corner of my memory bank,
I think Mersenne (or someone else!) indicated the bass strings should
have a sustain of 20 or so heartbeats [forgive me if I am getting this
all wrong!]. How long that might be depends
I think the most important idea that Chris has brought up here is that
we need to consider the other sounds that musicians would have had in
their heads from the other instruments and music that was part of their
world.
Nancy
My dissatisfaction with gut rests primarily on
Cantio Sarmatoruthenica XXXVI -
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/audio/339.mp3
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/images/339.pdf
RT
in a -
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/audio/338.mp3
http://torban.org/sarmatoruthenicae/images/338.pdf
in c -
Hello...
May be any of you know...Is there any lute event in Italy by nov 25 to
mid december? I'm also interested in medieval or renaissance concerts
even if not totally lute oriented.
(life has this strange things...should have gone there for the Spello
course and couldn't...)
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