Greetings,
I have been looking at the performance of Hurel by Christopher Wilke on
his CD and have a couple of questions:
1. Between the Menuet de l'Opera and the Chaconne composee pour
Melle De la Balme on the last track there is an interlude that is not
clear to me
Hi-
Even with gut strings on say a baroque lute it is still good to damp
the strings, otherwise it sounds messy. Also just for articulation. If
you listen to the top players of today damping basses is very
common. There are different techniques for damping and it soon becomes
As any good luthier will tell you today, hide glue is still superior to
modern glue for several reasons.
--Sterling
Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings?
Or, As I enjoy assuming, the old ones used the best they had, and if
they'd had epoxy glue and nylon strings that's what they'd
Valid points, Chris.
My take is that each instruments has its imperfections which by good
players are turned into positive characteristics.
Organ is an impossible instrument for me because of its relentless
sustain combined with utter lack of dynamics. How can you make _music_
on an instrument
Sterling,
Agreed. Ideally, one wants the bass line to be articulated in the same
manner as any line played on the fretboard. In fact, basses frequently cross
between fretted notes and diapasons. Presumably these two types of passages
should be performed in the same manner even though
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But Sterling... Iâm (or was) a luthier...I used hide glue for years,
becoming an alchemist with the stuff adding nitrogen fertilizer and such to
alter
I wonder how many of today's lutenists are using double gut frets? It
would seem that until the time of Thomas Mace (who I think was the
first to mention the use of single frets), and maybe for some time
after that double frets were the norm. Players who have used them will
I know that some top lute makers (and by 'top' I really do mean names
that cause avaricious salivation when they are uttered in the company
of lutenists) use a number of different glues for different joints in
an instrument - notably aliphatic resin (Titebond), but also hide glue
Historically double fret loops seem to have been the norm; there was an
exchange of emails on this topic some time ago - see the archives.
Other than Thomas Mace, who mentions single loops but when explaining
how to tie the fret knot describes the normal double loop, I'm not
Yes, regular old rubbing alcohol mix and a bit of heat is the standard joint
softener.
-Original Message-
From: William Samson
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:33 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: long strings?
I know that some top lute makers (and by 'top' I
Absolutely Martyn! I'm already a convert, despite needing twice as
much fret gut; ergo costing twice as much - Important to a Scotsman
;o) . I have found they don't slacken off as easily as a single loop
- no doubt for the reason you mention. And, as you say, they do last
I have tried it. Many lute methods and builders books give different
methods. The Ian Harwood instructional I built my first lute from has the
double, and I tied them. I didn't notice any tonal difference though.
Again, and now I'm starting to feel like a contrary, I use the single. The
I resemble that description... :-) Oaf is accurate also. You know, you
guys almost have me trying gut, but they are so dang expensive! I get a
complete 8-course set for less than sixteen dollars in nylon. Gut, besides
the fact it's animal guts, is priced beyond my practical means...
It really depends upon application and luthier, even amongst those with a
great deal of hide glue experience.
Best,
Eugene
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Behalf Of sterling price
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:31 AM
To:
From: [1]garrywar...@hotmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:49 PM
To: [2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Double fret loops
Thank you. I think you'd have to eat your strings to get mad cow,
which is possibly necessary after going broke buying them... I
However, gut lasts a great long time (if you don't fray the finer strings
with nail or quill in the kinds of quirky applications I sometimes expect of
it). It is especially long-lived compared to metal-wound basses. In the
long term, it may work out to be more economical depending upon your own
The news has been showing some very distressing pictures of flooded areas in
New Jersey and New England. Three members I can think of in the New Jersey
area are Cezar Mateus, Lynda Kraar, and Joseph Mayes. To them - and all
effected by Irene - I send best wishes and hopes that you've not been
Hi-- I have glued ribs and all the other parts of a lute with hide glue
too. I do know there are some places for titebond such as when carving
the rose and a piece breaks, or making the mold...
Sterling
But Sterling... I'm (or was) a luthier...I used hide glue for
years,
Lynda's house is well elevated near the Palisades cliffs. She should be
totally OK.
Cezar's house hshould be OK as well, is has some elevation.
Sot sure where Joe lives.
Irene passed more to the East, some of my friends who live near Princeton
say that things are generally OK in the area.
RT
Very cool! I stand in shame at my arrogance... I found the stuff a
misery, actually, and as for the reversal properties I tended to do
more damage than good. I got to where I just planed the hunk off and
made a new one from scratch. Epoxy actually separates better for me.
That
Thank you, Roman, for your kind wishes. I am high and dry. Didn't even loose
power. (One of my fig trees fell over before the storm, however.)
Joe
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Roman
Turovsky
Thanks for that reassurance, Roman. Irene has been a more devastating storm
than I would ever have expected from it's wind speed. But the amount of water
it dumped was obviously the killer.
Ned
On Aug 31, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Lynda's house is well elevated near the
I talked with Art Ness... he is OK as well.
At 04:52 PM 8/31/2011, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Lynda's house is well elevated near the Palisades cliffs. She should
be totally OK.
Cezar's house hshould be OK as well, is has some elevation.
Sot sure where Joe lives.
Irene passed more to the East, some
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