[LUTE] Re: Reconstructing Thibault MS

2020-05-17 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hi Sarge Most of the files are in the Google drive which address I had sent to the new group. You can also access them via the new Fronimo mini site, which is the official repository for the software too. https://sites.google.com/view/fronimo/home I transferred most of the f

[LUTE] Re: historically accurate concerts

2019-11-18 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Well, that's a truly flattering firing :-) Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu mail.cs.dartmouth.edu> Per conto di Frank A. Gerbode, M.D. > Inviato: lunedì 18 novembre 2019 16:17 > A: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: historically accu

[LUTE] Re: Thomann Canterella and LLD lutes

2019-09-20 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Exactly. In my opinion the right violation can be only on the brand mark, if it has been registered and if Thomann lutes had it on them. There could not be a copyright on a lute design, in my opinion, as they are from historical designs which are public domain. Probably if the LDD rosette was a ver

[LUTE] Re: Italian translation help

2019-09-02 Thread Francesco Tribioli
That is a typo. As a couple of lines over, it should read "penano", that means "to do with effort/sufference" or in this case "to take more or less time". "Penare poco", in Tuscan dialect, means "to do it quickly" Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmout

[LUTE] Re: Spanish tab in FRonimo

2019-01-02 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Right, maybe Milan's tablature would be more correct Francesco > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu On Behalf Of > Daniel Winheld > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2019 9:47 PM > To: tribioli ; Rainer online.de>; Lute net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Spanish tab in FRonimo > >

[LUTE] Re: KF vs. new Aquila bass strings

2017-08-30 Thread Francesco Tribioli
I wonder what is left of the original idea of playing instruments, built as the original ones were built, with historically informed technique. Single strung archlutes, foldable theorbos, short theorbos strung with wound strings, instruments with different vibrating lengths always tuned to 440 even

[LUTE] Re: To Franceso

2017-02-06 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Rainer Please try to use my personal address (ftribi...@gmail.com) The one you are using is the work one. It should work but we are more strict with rules trying to block spam... Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmou

[LUTE] Re: Another question to Francesco

2017-02-06 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Right Francesco > -Messaggio originale- > Da: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Per > conto di Rainer > Inviato: lunedì 6 febbraio 2017 14:04 > A: Lute net > Oggetto: [LUTE] Another question to Francesco > > German tab with more than 6 courses is impossible, r

[LUTE] Re: A Fronimo question

2017-02-06 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Not exactly so. In regular installation, if one uses another font for the tablature letters the signature characters are still taken from the Fronimo symbols font (Ouverture.ttf). Sometimes though it happens that the installer is not able to correctly install the fonts. It must be run as Admini

[LUTE] Re: [Fronimo_editor] Font for German tab

2014-04-23 Thread Francesco Tribioli
http://www.fontspace.com/category/fraktur: a good source for free fraktur fonts. Francesco > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of mathias.roe...@t-online.de > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:38 PM > To: Arne Keller > Cc:

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness - Poll

2013-08-12 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Konrad Ragosnig 6 lp set for Archiv and even more a double lp with Eugen Dombois playing Weiss and Bach and Michael Schaeffer playing French baroque. Absolutely beautiful. It was the l'Infidele sonata (the wonderful Musette) and the Tombeau pour M. de Logis that convinced me that I wanted to pla

[LUTE] Re: In memoriam loaded gut

2013-05-28 Thread Francesco Tribioli
As far as I know Mimmo has completely stopped the production of loaded gut strings and no one knows if he will ever start it again. My impression is that the answer is no. I asked him many times to make the four basses needed for my 11c and the answer has always been negative. At the end Martin man

[LUTE] Re: Pronunciation of Fuenllana's name.

2012-03-27 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> I pronounce it the same way as I pronounce "quesadilla" or "que." In other > words, like the English word "day." I don't insert a "w" sound in there, but > the Spanish I learned (last year) was Mexican Spanish (and I may not be > pronouncing that correctly). So, I pronounce it "Fayn-yah-na." I

[LUTE] Franco Pavan course in Vicenza

2012-02-09 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear all, as many of you already know the next 16th of April a big band of lutes (~50) coming from all around Europe and Italy will play a concert inside the amazing Teatro Olimpico of Vicenza, Italy, which is the first stable theater in Europe, designed by Palladio in late XVII century. W

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Opps prime matter = raw material sometimes language assonances tricks me hehe Francesco > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Francesco Tribioli > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 4:23 PM > To: 

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Mimmo confirmed me a few days ago, when I phoned him, that the problem with Sofracob was indeed related with this EU law about gut. Then, as far as I know, it is the same company that sells gut stripes to every string maker (except Toro and Stoppani perhaps? I don't know and Toro doesn’t make lute

[LUTE] Re: Gut Strings

2011-11-16 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Mimmo wrote on facebook that most if not all the string producers use now beef gut, because sheep gut is available only in limited amounts and would not be enough for a sustained production. Beside this he says that to use sheep gut doubles the production time. The use of sheep gut would result the

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread Francesco Tribioli
What about abc/abctab? It's a textual format, like Wayne's TAB format, Django as far as I know supports it (partially, completely? Export only or both ways?), and might be an alternative to XML. The problem I see with it is that it's complex and quite not user friendly for editing with a textual ed

[LUTE] Re: Italian translation

2011-05-03 Thread Francesco Tribioli
"diritti" and "rovesci" might mean ascending and descending slurs. "Slissi" might be the plural of "slisso" which is a Venetian dialectal for "liscio" that is smooth in English (whatever that might mean in guitar playing) but he seems to be from Turin and published in Bologna, so really I don't kno

[LUTE] Re: O felici occhi miei

2011-05-01 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Here it is the only one I've found but the text is clean and with the correct punctuation: http://www.freehandmusic.com/sheet-music/o-felici-occhi-miei-from-354395. I think it's correct also because, according to the Italian rules for counting the syllables in a verse, it is formed of two stanzas e

[LUTE] Re: O felici occhi miei

2011-04-30 Thread Francesco Tribioli
e goes to glaze at the sea but it seems meaningless to me... So I think the only solution is that there is a space added or a dash forgotten, as the text was probably extrapolated from the lyrics. Francesco > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dar

[LUTE] Re: O felici occhi miei

2011-04-30 Thread Francesco Tribioli
"rei" here means guilty, harsh etc. "Reo" is someone who is recognized responsible of a crime. "Rei" is the plural of "reo". King is "re" and the plural is again "re". The English "regal" in Italian is "regale" so it's not the case here. The object of the lyric is a male. "gli" is male, female wou

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

2011-02-02 Thread Francesco Tribioli
outh.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Matteo Turri > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:23 PM > To: Francesco Tribioli > Cc: Lute Net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society > >... and what do you do with a microfilm today? - ot

[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society

2011-02-02 Thread Francesco Tribioli
It is also available on microfilm from the LSA. Francesco > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Stewart McCoy > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:08 PM > To: Lute Net > Subject: [LUTE] Future facsimiles from the Lute So

[LUTE] Re: In Italia

2009-04-09 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Thank you Leonard! I've phoned to Maurizio Pratola, the lutenist in L'Aquila, many times but his cell phone doesn't answer. Thanks God he's not in the list of the victims but might well be that his house went down or is heavily damaged. The town is for the most part inaccessible as most building d

[LUTE] Re: Tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Tom, indeed it is built into Fronimo. Just choose MIDI Files as the file format into the standard Fronimo file open dialog box. In other words, there is not a specific import command but the import is done by opening the MIDI file. Best wishes, Francesco > -Original Message-

[LUTE] Re: Lute concert

2007-09-25 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Even recordings that are "unprocessed" are processed (unbeknownst by > the original engineer) by goofballs at the pressing plant who don't > know how the machines work. This is the big problem... people are used to listen to edited recording and are not aware of this. So when they attend a conce

[LUTE] Re: copy

2007-05-01 Thread Francesco Tribioli
You can find the music that was in the internet lute society at this address: http://www.gerbode.net/ Have fun! Francesco > -Original Message- > From: hera caius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:56 PM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] copy > > a

[LUTE] Re: nylgut tensions

2007-03-27 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Talking about Nylgut, does everybody calculate tensions as for gut or > do > they add a little more (i.e. 0.40 gut = 0.42 Nylgut) > Sometimes the tensions with Nylgut can feel a little slack to me > > Nigel Yes, it's better to add a little bit to the gauge. Nylgut stretches a lot before stabiliz

[LUTE] Re: ebony etc

2007-02-15 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Anthony and Rob, Martin recently made a 6c for me with a walnut body and I can say that it sounds very well (it's beautiful too). I can feel the bowl vibrating against my stomach when I play, much more than other lutes I have and had, so I wouldn't say it absorbs resonance, but perhaps it p

[LUTE] Re: jane pickering MS

2006-12-11 Thread Francesco Tribioli
A microfilm of the Jane Pickering manuscript is available from the LSA. Ciao Francesco > -Original Message- > From: Manolo Laguillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:17 AM > To: LUTELIST > Subject: [LUTE] jane pickering MS > > Good morning, lutelisters, >

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

2006-10-13 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Have you had any good result with so thin strings? Whenever I've tried a 0.38 it didn't last more that a few playing hours (3-4 hours). I guess that a 0.36 is even more prone to hairs and breakage. Perhaps a couple of hours can be enough for a concert, but... Francesco > >> called standard a=415H

[LUTE] Re: Too soft to live

2006-10-13 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Toyohiko was at the LSA seminar in Cleveland this past > summer, and he is proof that this can be done... a great > sound, very projective. He does this in part with lower > tension of the strings... Maybe as low as 2.3 to > 2.5 Kg per string. With a slacker string, it is not too > bright.

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

2006-10-09 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hello Stephen, > > I'm not certain what you meant by that last statement. If > you mean that no curiosity will be generated because of the > 'bad sound/music', or maybe you meant that less curiosity > will be generated than if the sound/music was 'good': I will > politely disagree. What I w

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

2006-10-09 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> the modern world. Otherwise, what is the point of the > 20th-century lute revival? Simply to amass information for Passing over your easy irony and attacks to the HIP police 8^), in my opinion, the point is to play music in a way that is the closest possible to the way it might have sounded,

[LUTE] Re: The last word goes to Sting

2006-10-09 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> I have if on good authority that the Labyrinth sales in > Germany have already exceeded 30. > RT There is an incredible amount of advertising of this CD here in Italy too. Every morning after the radio news there is an extract of Come again sang by Sting with the advise of buying the CD "in

[LUTE] Re: Problems opening Fronimo files

2006-10-08 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Stephen, there was in the past a problem with some browsers (I don't remember which browser actually) that misrecognised the content of a Fronimo file and tried to "adjust" it adding or removing carriage returns. I don't know if this is the case though, lately no one complained anymore

[LUTE] Re: Sting? - Lute awareness?- Fantasy instrument - 30 Years of EM

2006-09-25 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Sting/Karamazov have nothing to be embarassed about. Some of > my favorite CD's are of actors singing, like Gizela May, Nis > Bank-Mikkelsen, Fred Aackestroem, Martin Bagge, Marjana Sadovska etc. > S/K sound perfectly in place. > RT Not embarrassed? They both should flee away for the shame!

[LUTE] Re: strings: direction of vibration?

2006-09-05 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Dear Francesco and All: > Isn't there an inventory of the Maler workshop on his death > indicating several hundred lutes in various stages of > construction? That would indicate a lute every few days. > Perhaps his was not a typical operation and probably employed > many masters and apprenti

[LUTE] Re: strings: direction of vibration?

2006-09-04 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> ... On the other hand it could just be another example of the > old makers working very quickly and even sloppily, taking Just a curiosity... Has anyone an idea of how big might have been the production rate of a lute builder workshop? How much was the lute diffused in that time population? I g

[LUTE] Re: strings: direction of vibration?

2006-08-26 Thread Francesco Tribioli
I would say that the direction of the plucking should be almost irrelevant. The bridge represents a node of the wave while the antinodes (where the mass of the string moves) is in the middle of the string (if you are not playing harmonics otherwise there are more nodes and antinodes but always a no

[LUTE] Re: Francesco da Milano

2006-08-10 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> - Original Message - > From: Caroline Usher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:06 am > Subject: [LUTE] Francesco da Milano > > > Francesco's birthday is coming up - Aug. 18. What will you > be doing? Sorry, my birthday is Jan. 23... I guess I'll drink a glass of P

[LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte

2006-07-29 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Now comes a question to those of us who have to play, on > occasion, with modern instrument ensembles that do baroque > music once in a while - does anyone think a louder continuo > archlute might be useful? Perhaps, IMHO, with a modern orchestra a modern instrument would be better. Perhaps a

[LUTE] Another book on eBay

2006-04-25 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hello again, if you are interested check also this other book on eBay, sold by Allan too: a very nice copy of "The Lute and Its Music" A drop of coffee stain on the front. All in French from CNRS http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7410013786 Francesco To get on or off

[LUTE] LSA and LS publications on eBay

2006-04-24 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear all, I'm sending this on behalf of my friend Allan Alexander which is temporary out of the list. He is selling various publications on eBay because almost ready to move in a new house. Here it is the list: 19 Quarterly Lute Society of America editions, Quarterlies Volume XXIX, No 1 2

[LUTE] Re: Joulupukki - Santa C. Was: Arto...

2005-12-21 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Of course he must exist, there are even videos showing him > speaking!! Of course! And he's drinking Coke all the day... <8^( Nah... I prefer to believe to the Befana. For all you that don't live in Italy, she is a very old and proverbially hugly woman riding a broom in the nightly winter skies

[LUTE] Re: UnHIP overspun strings.

2005-11-08 Thread Francesco Tribioli
For me the gut basses are the *real* reason to play with gut strings. I can bear high strings in nylon, even carbon chanterelle, the difference is not so big, but I really don't bear overspun basses, especially for Reinassance music but I would say for all music expect late Baroque. Their overboos

[LUTE] R: g-string blues

2005-10-31 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> So, what's the moral? Sh$t happens, strings do break. Could I > have avoided this? Of course, I was stubborn and used 0.40mm > first strings. 0.38mm would have been better because of the > lower tension. Secondly, I was a miser to use up my supply of Not at all. As many times it was pointed o

[LUTE] Re: Playing renaissance (7, (fwd)

2005-10-20 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> For that matter, how about taking the strings off. This > would mean that when you put them on again they would take a > while to come up to tension, but it means that a beginner > would not be confused by all those extra strings, if the > beginner was playing 6 course music. > > When I st

[LUTE] Re: New Fronimo 3 mirror

2005-09-12 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> -Original Message- > From: jim abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:19 PM > To: Lute Net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: New Fronimo 3 mirror > > Once again, does not work. File not found. > Now it is everything ok... Francesco To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] Re: New Fronimo 3 mirror

2005-09-12 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hm... Yes, you are right. I'll say to Andrew... Francesco > -Original Message- > From: jim abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 3:19 PM > To: Lute Net > Subject: [LUTE] Re: New Fronimo 3 mirror > > Once again, does not work. File not found. > To get o

[LUTE] New Fronimo 3 mirror

2005-09-12 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear all, there is a new mirror repository for all the "New Continent" based lutenists: http://www.theaterofmusic.com Thanks to Andrew Hartig for setting this up. Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Changed location for Fronimo

2005-09-07 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear all, Federico has moved the Fronimo 3 files to a faster server. The easy way to reach them is from to the home page of Federico (http://www.marincola.com), which is by the way worth a visit by itself, following the link "Software". Francesco To get on or off this list see list info

[LUTE] Fronimo 3 released

2005-09-07 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear all, sorry for sending a message that might be a little bit contrary to the netiquette. I just hope that you might be interested and you will forgive me. As the members of the Fronimo Yahoo group already know, the new main release of Fronimo is ready. Anyone interested can down

[LUTE] Re: Microfilm

2005-08-29 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Sandy, I've used a scanner but it was not exactly straightforward. Scanners work very well with color films but not as well with b/w films. The reason seems to be that the color films are all transparent while the b/w are an agglomerate of very small crystals, some transparent

[LUTE] RE: AW: Re: V. Galilei

2005-08-17 Thread Francesco Tribioli
2005 2:34 PM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] AW: Re: V. Galilei > > If I recall correctly you will find the complete "Il Fronimo" > on the Fronimo site of Francesco Tribioli. > > Best wishes > Thomas > > > > >Ariel, > > > >My mess

[LUTE] R: Re: What you say lingers on...

2005-08-16 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> As Russians say "Words written with a pen cannot be deleted > by an axe" > RT As the Romans (not many RTs... the inhabitants of ancient Rome 8^))) said even before: Verba volant, scripta manent. Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~

RE: Duets in guitar notation?

2005-07-12 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Dear Mathias, > > I think your initial question was correct. I only have a > demo version of Fronimo, but I have not found a way of > tranforming a tab staff into a notation staff. As Alain > said, this can be done automatically in Django, and probably > in the other notation based progra

R: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-04 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Thanks for the information. I was too busy to explore your > site thoroughly. Do you mean I can download the tablatures > in German tablature, should I wish to do so? (I don't. But > I'd like Italian lute music in Italian tablature. Not French.) Yes, it is possible to convert on the fly t

R: French Lutenist about to release a worldwide first- the Book of Perrine

2005-07-04 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Arthur, > > I had to join that group in order to see Doug Towne's work. > But I cannot open the files. Do I have to buy Fronimo to do > that? How much does it cost? Wouldn't it be more convenient > to have them in *.PDF format, like wayne does? of course if you want to purchase a Froni

R: Details

2005-06-07 Thread Francesco Tribioli
This kind of messages with "Details" subject, "Here is the file." body and an attached .pif or .scr or .exe file are known mail worms (Netsky or Bagle, I don't remember exactly, but I've read their description just today). If one opens the attachment the virus installs itself in his mailer program

R: Which meantone temperament to use on fixed fret instruments?

2005-06-04 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hello Dana, > A few years ago I had brief conversation with Pat O'Brian on > the subject of temperament for fixed fret instruments, as I > recall he, and others he plays with, were exploring 1/6 comma > meantone. > > I find some online information that should enable me to do > the calculation

RE: Ornamentation of Delacourt Pavin

2005-05-26 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> BTW I re-typed this piece in Fronimo, but could not find a > dot to go before a note. I could place a dot under (first > finger RH), or dot after, (which may mean something entirely > different). The only alternative was to print it out and > write these dots in by hand. The ornamentation

RE: Willams Concert

2005-04-06 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> I have yet to open any of your cheesy products, > I'm not about to start now. > Michael Thames > www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com Just because I like logic: how do you know they are cheesy if you have never opened one of them? 8^) Francesco To get on or off this list see list inform

RE: Continuo, d-minor and meantone

2005-03-11 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> The majority of music was simply out of tune most > of the time, and badly played too. Which, by the way, is still true 8^)) Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

R: Lute Editing Programmes

2005-02-14 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Fronimo is great for Windows platform, though it doesn't have > the feature I love in Sibelius, which is its midi playback capability. Fronimo had MIDI playback capability from the very beginning, even directly from tablature. 8^) Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at

RE: horizontal spacing in tablature

2005-02-08 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Fronimo's spacing is easy to achieve, if you know the > parameters you are entereing (1.5 for most durations). This is how it will be in version 3.0 because the space between notes changes in a continuos way. In the 2.1 the space can change only in fixed steps and you have to set the number of s

R: Tombeau de Mezangeau

2005-01-08 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Wayne, there is a PDF copy from Perrine at http://www.polyhymnion.org/tombeau/tombeaux/perrine.pdf Francesco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

R: Broken string

2004-11-28 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Caroline, without knowing the length of the string it's impossible to say if it's tuned too high. In any case an early break might depend on many parameters. One of them is humidity. It weaks a lot gut strings and they broke a lot early. Or it might be a defective string. Eventually ev

R: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-28 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Martin, > > I agree completely that the sources suggest even "feel" > across the strings, and 13N or whatever is implausibly > low. I don't know how to resolve the apparently > impossible combination of clear, stiff, non-roped, > non-loaded strings thin enough to go through bridge > holes,

R: R: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-27 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Ed, ah, ok, but then you should tune at a lower pitch because they hadn't string thinner than 0.40mm. In any case I'm wondering if there were instrument built and used for playing in consorts and instruments built for solo and if they actually used different tuning (meaning the chantar

R: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-27 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Martin and Ed, > > historical fact. I have found the same results with roping, > that it gives a rather dull sound. The lower tension > solution seems to be logical. Do you really think that one could play with basses with a 1N or more less tended than the other strings? It contrasts with

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-24 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Stephan and all, > > At least with my hands it's in no way easier to play thumb-out > on low bass courses. If I want to keep the little finger on > the soundboard and away from the first course, the thumb > virtually is _in_ when lying on e.g. the 11th course. > Interestingly it only seem

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-23 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Elias, > Gaultier-Portrait shows the little finger even behind the > bridge. 3 different positions, 3 different moments, 3 > different painters, etc. How should a painter of our days > do a piano player's hands showing "typically Russian" > technique? Would someone be able 500 years la

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-22 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Right, but actually the possibilities are *not* endless. They are portrayed, more or less, all in the same position. 8^) Then what about the portraits of Mouton and Gaultier? They are not exactly unknown lutenists and if I was a famous master I would have liked to be portrayed more or less in a co

RE: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-22 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Stephan, > > it has been argumented that playing close to the bridge > produces better (brighter) basses. However, it occurs to me > that the extreme thumb-out positions we see on old paintings > result in darker basses and brighten the sound of the upper > register. If the aim had been t

R: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-21 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hi all, I think the trick of lowering tension cannot work. If you lower tension you would need thinner strings or otherwise the pitch would be as low as a third or even more below the "standard" 415Hz A. Many historical baroque lutes are already too much longer to accommodat

R: Rubato and rolling chords

2004-11-01 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> in some way. Not quite lute, but Carcassi stated that all > all chords should be > rolled in his early 19th-c. guitar method. The same holds for ornaments. Piccinini says: "In tutti li luoghi dove si deve fermare assai, o poco, quivi si deve fare il Tremolo, & hora si fà un sorte di Tremolo,

R: Mary Burwell Tutor

2004-10-26 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hi all, > > I'm interested in the Mary Burwell lute tutor, reprinted in facsmile > > years ago by the Severinus Press (am I right?). > > > > Where can I find it (I mean the facsimile, of course...)? > > In march 2004 I asked them, and they said: > > **

RE: Hercules, Catholic mass, and vihuelas.

2004-08-31 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> OK. The mass is for a nobleman named Ercole. Two questions: The original Messe by Josquin is for Ercole I, Duke of Ferrara. Not just a nobleman but a sort of absolute sovereign in his small duchy. He employed for a short time Josquin at his court in 1471. > 1. Why does the title, in the origi

R: R: HIP, Renbourne & O"Dette

2004-08-30 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> The most current Mac version for OS9.2 has no files listed in > the XML doc. RT > > IE6.0 likes it. > > ft Mac?? What is Mac? 8^)) ft

R: HIP, Renbourne & O"Dette

2004-08-30 Thread Francesco Tribioli
IE6.0 likes it. ft > > http://www.cbsr.ucr.edu/wlkfiles/Publications/Unicorn/Unicorn.xml > > > > Note: this is an xml document, and some browsers may not like it... > > Alain > IE doesn't, Mozilla does. > RT > >

R: HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

2004-08-30 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Oddly enough Francesco and Michelangelo were both awarded the > title Il Divino, do you think they were called that? I am > not sure how you know what FDM was called in his time. If > Michelangelo was known as Michelangelo why was it not > possible for FDM to be known as Francesco understan

RE: HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

2004-08-30 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> are going to be unhappy. I would wager most in the Lute > community would instantly understand that Francesco is most > surely Francesco Canova Da Milano Da Parigi. The point is that Francesco da Milano was never called just "Francesco" at his times as it was for, say, Michelangelo. Perhaps it

HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

2004-08-29 Thread Francesco Tribioli
and call people with their right name. Thanks a lot in advance! Francesco Tribioli

R: Unusual time signatures

2004-08-24 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Dear Stewart, Fronimo 3 will have both this irregular meters, like 5/8 and 7/8, and the way to change the default association between |\ and the mensural notation value (it may be wrong but often I prefer the old equivalence for transcriptions 8^)). It will have the possibility to have a di

RE: TOMBEAUX for Lute > The E-Library

2004-08-11 Thread Francesco Tribioli
imo editor discussion group, on Yahoo. Francesco > -Original Message- > From: Roman Turovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 12:24 AM > To: LUTE-LIST > Subject: TOMBEAUX for Lute > The E-Library > > > FYP&D, > Francesco Tribi

RE: R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

2004-06-14 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Of course, Francesco Tribioli, an astronomer(?) himself, would name his Yes, indeed. I would say a former astronomer as in the last 15 years or so I've worked fulltime with computers, here at the Florence Astrophysical Observatory. > tablature program after Vincenzo Galilei's

R: R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

2004-06-13 Thread Francesco Tribioli
>Dear Ed; > > And so was Galileo himself a lutenist. Or so I've heard. > > Gary It has been reported that Galileo Galilei was an accomplished lutenist, more skilled than his father Vincenzo. Even in his latest years he was co

R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

2004-06-12 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Was it this Tycho that has the large crater on the moon named > after him? Sure, it is. Tycho designed many instruments and was the first to do very accurate astronomical observations. His observations of the motion of the planets were used by Kepler to formulate his famous three laws. The most

R: Manuscript of Per Brahe - Skokloster

2004-06-11 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Wasn't Per Brahe a famous astronomer? His lute book at the That was Tycho Brahe... Francesco

R: R: Seeking advice for 4th course

2004-02-18 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> > My teacher says that if you want longevity, use carbon. > > But if you want a good sound my hear says: definetively use > > gut. 8^) > > Francesco > And a modicum of masochism... > RT Not at all! I'm very happy with gut. My 3 lutes and my baroque guitar mounted gut strings from the be

R: Seeking advice for 4th course

2004-02-18 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> My teacher says that if you want longevity, use carbon. > But if you want a good sound my hear says: definetively use gut. 8^) Francesco

RE: Current ongoing topics

2003-12-12 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> It resulted in the multiple "Lute" prefix that obliterated > the subject after 2 responses. > RT Which of course is a highly desirable side effect, considered the quality of the recent threads... Francesco

RE: Beer bottles and lute rosettes: a frank discussion

2003-12-10 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Dear Robert, >I don't know much about beer bottles, but I do know about guitars. > Anyone can perform a simple experiment, By covering the > sound hole > on your guitar, with a piece of cardboard , One will then notice no > change in the volume or treble, however, it is very striking t

R: Size of the lute world

2003-12-07 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Timothy Motz wrote: > I have noticed that there is an ebb and flow to the flame wars that > coincides with the full moon. We are just reaching a full moon right > now Should we consider RT, MO, MT and all the fighting gang on this list belonging to the family of lycanthropes?!? WOW!!! Till n

R: For Francesco Tribioli

2003-11-26 Thread Francesco Tribioli
> Francesco, > > your account is broken - in the hope that you have another one :) No Rainer, I was just away these last three days for work (yes, I admit that sometimes I actually have to work! 8^)) About the PDF in Fronimo thread I cannot say more than the collective wisdom has already said. Ju

RE: copying bars with Fronimo

2003-10-28 Thread Francesco Tribioli
>From release 2.1 the right mouse button is used to bring up the pop-up menu. To select measures hold the Ctrl key and left click on the measures. Francesco > Has anyone been able to select/copy single bars in Fronimo > using the right > mouse button as described in the help. I can't seem to get

RE: Fronimo files

2003-09-23 Thread Francesco Tribioli
Hi, it's a change in the Yahoo policy. Unfortunately, from the past month, it's no more possible to set the file permissions inside the File area of any of the Yahoo groups to be readable by people which is not registered to Yahoo, but fortunately the registration is still free. Also the me