Monday 26^th March BBC4 (UK-TV)
âThe Lost genius of British Artâ - Documentary about 17thC painter
William Dobson.
Lute-music playing throughout, plus a consort playing in one setting.
(Anyone we know?)
Includes information about William Lawes. Lute composer, killed in
Anyone had one of these? What does it mean?
Ron (UK)
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My apologies for coming a bit late coming into this discussion. I can see
where some are asking for clarification on measuring bridge dimensions. I
haven't noticed anything from David van Edwards but perhaps he has other
ideas. But these ideas may help. As I say, these are only ideas. I would
I am late getting onto this thread, so apologies if this has been covered
before.
Stringed instruments are at a disadvantage to most others for the player to
think about their expression throughout their playing. They have to think
about the way they hold the instrument, their hand-position,
OK - I'll agree that a lot of folks who get into SCA and go to
Renaissance Festivals have a very non-HIP viewpoint on what it's all
about. For them it's basically play-acting, in the same way as those who
attend Civil War Re-enactments, or Rendezvous Re-enactments. It creates for
them
I have just come across this page and hope it may be of interest to new
US players
[1]http://www.susato.com/konakart/SelectCat.do?catId58prodsFound=6cat
egory=Lutes%2C+Ouds
Just for info. I have no connection or other interest.
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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References
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CASTING CALL:
Any Lute players able to work in Wales tomorrow? (Fri 31 Aug)
Rate for the day is -L-120. No travel expenses.
ANY age / gender!
Call ROSIE in the office 020 7269 7925 before midday if you can do
this.
If anyone is free in that
Lucas asked recently about this and I didn't notice any replies.
Here is a link:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77225363/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sylvius_Leopold_Wei%C3%9F.jpg
From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
[mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
Mathias wrote...
Don't know why so many of us like to play in churches, but I for one
won't hesitate to accept speakers if I'm offered.
For my 2 pence, I suggest that the acoustics are better (more
authentic) in a stone built church being the closest resemblance of
castles
Copy/Paste the link as far as the capital E.
Great rendition after only five months! Such nimble fingers and, a
nine-course lute which is rare nowadays, yet it is known John Dowland played
one.
Well done
Ron (UK)
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
I'm pretty sure these are available in the UK to absorb damp in caravans.
It comes as a kit. Usually it is a rectangular plastic container, with a
clip-on lid. This is slotted, or has holes to allow in the surrounding air.
It comes with a packet of crystals, which looks more like white salt.
[1]http://www.economist.com/node/18114327
I just read this article which infers it will soon be possible to
create any item in 3D in various materials, simply by scanning and
pressing `print'.
Obviously there will always be some assembly necessary as it would only
copy
There have been a few lute-players in Australia that made lutes on David van
Edward's on-line projects in 2000/2002
They may still be on this list. But hopefully, they can also be located via
eg. Lute.ning.com. They probably still possess tools to trim pegs and ream
peg-boxes. Maybe they have
IMHO A lute-tablature transcription will not convince a judge that it is a
copy of modern printed sheet-music. He will compare the two and say, 'It
looks nothing like it'. Case dismissed.
How will a public performance be judged in court against a copyrighted song?
Will the judge listen to the
For anyone in the UK interested, `The BBC Proms' is featuring music by
JS Bach on TV right now. 8pm - 10pm (BBC2)
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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I vaguely remember this sketch with David Walliams being apprehended with a
lute. He looks to be a natural left-hander!
It is not a bathrobe he is holding, but a common plastic carrier-bag the UK
are trying hard to phase out.
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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From:
Hi Anthony,
At this time of year, when the demands of the garden are taking over from
lute-playing, it is difficult to find compatibility for both hobbies.
Obviously it is important to wear gloves to protect the skin from cuts,
abrasions and the forming of hard-skin. Also use plenty of hand
I can second Stewart's comments.
I live in Loughborough which lies between three cities, Leicester,
Nottingham and Derby. All are about 30 minute drive in either direction.
My preference is always Nottingham. Thanks for the info about the display
at Nottingham Castle. Might even meet Stewart
more Alan A'Dale's...
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
-Original Message-
From: Monica Hall [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:26 PM
To: Ron Fletcher
Cc: Lutelist
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Robin Hood
Well - don't forget to visit Sherwood Forrest whilst you
It is just amazing I can sit out in my UK garden under bright sunny clear
blue skies, 21C and not a plane to be seen anywhere and, I'm only 8 miles
from the East Midlands airport!
I will not wash my car until the ash cloud passes over, but there's still no
debris from the volcano falling here. I
Its another vanitas picture. The character in the back row next to the
lovers - the one smiling while pointing to them and looking out at us - is
obviously gaunt and skeletal. This person probably represents death or
disease creeping into the midst of the group that is having such a good time
Yes, I think Mark has summed up the usual reason for a lute going out of
tune. The ambient temperature of a room changes from overnight when it is
at its coolest, to daytime when the temperature rises.
I find this with nylguts here in the UK, so I guess many other parts of the
world do too.
A belated reply to this theme. Two B strings together on a clarsach
(knee) harp? This message comes from a friend who performs on various
instruments including this one...
We are of the opinion that the earliest picture of an undeniably wire
strung harp referred to in writing
(Note that one puny bongo drum, played lightly by an inexpert player,
can easily cover up the sound of 50+ classical guitars.)
Is that what happened to the 50 Guitars of Tommy Garrett? - Driven off by
half a bongo!
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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Hi David all list members,
December in the UK has been rather wet and windy from the south west. But
last week, it changed round to the east. It must be really cold where Arto
lives! Now it blows down from the north, (where Rob lives) which brought
only a dusting of snow for us with a hard
Over here in the US, we had a similar event in the early 1980s, when the US
congress decided to stop funding the Dayton Miller collection of
historical flutes, and the Library of Congress was forced to put the
instruments in cardboard boxes in the basement of the library. I know
that
I can symathise with those customers on this list who feel let down by
Luciano Faria. One can surmise all kinds of reasons for his lack of
response.
After three years waiting, I would suggest someone make a personal visit to
him to get to the truth. I don't recall his address being published,
] On Behalf
Of howard posner
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:34 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Ron Fletcher wrote:
It is better to know the truth than to ruin this man's reputation
as a good
luthier by speculation and hearsay.
The truth
I have the 'Bach on the Lute' box-set by Nigel North (4-CD's)from
Amazon.co.uk
There were varying prices available for this set. Also each of the four
discs could be bought separately.
Somehow, this particular set (new) was priced at less than one separate
disc. If it is still there, look
Stravinsky was arrested for using a 7th chord in the Star Spangled
Banner, BTW.
Oh? - So it wasn't homicide, of the bra-strangled stunner?
Sorry for the divergence
Back to topic
Ron (UK)
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You've got Britain's Got Talent. What could be better than that?
DR
If you have never seen these shows, I can reveal that the first five or six
are absolutely chronic, but enough to be comedy. Maybe there are the
exceptional one or two acts that are passed for later in the series.
It has
The final movement was met with rapturous applause...
The performance was equal to that of an electronic pest-controller and is
not recommended for those who shudder at the sound of fingernails on a
blackboard.
Ron (UK)
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Hi Friends,
As we are on the thread of lute-bowls for the would-be builder (if it
wasn't so difficult) I'd suggest a kit from The Early Music Shop.
[1]http://www.earlymusicshop.com/product.aspx/en-GB/1000511-ems-7-cours
e-renaissance-lute-kit
They state the lute is designed
Hi all,
I would hope that in these days of equality and maybe political correctness
this male dominated area of music-geeks has moved on enough to respect our
female colleagues. If these examples are still prevalent or still being
cited as normal behaviour, I'm sure even our male colleagues
Hi Everyone,
As Laura pointed out, there are many females on Lute-ning.com that play the
lute and several more that have a great interest. I would love to see more
females on both lists to even the balance.
It has been mentioned that the flute and harp are considered as having
female bias. So
Er stimmte seine Laute länger, als er darauf spielte--tell me about it!
(He tunes his lute longer than he actually plays)
Only those with guts I think...
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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Mathias wrote...
Okay, found it out. The term was invented in the 20th century. No
Erzlaute in Grimm's dictionary. The term may sound ancient in German,
but in fact it is an artificial term, created in order to categorize
types of lutes. I'd say, forget Erzlaute.
Ersatzlaute perhaps?
Ron (UK)
Interesting, however I'd like to have more info about this papal decree
and how it is related to Dowland's pavan...
the answer is very simple: nobody knows.
Rainer aus dem Spring
Here in the UK, it is still illegal to not have an 'audible warning
instrument' fitted to their bicycle. Many
Another way could be to say that, provided the phrase is used the papal
way, Solus cum sola is an Elizabethan way of alluding to intercourse of
the sexes (not necessarily sexual intercourse).
Mat
Solus cum sola non cogitabuntur orare pater noster.
A man and a woman, alone together, will not
Slightly of topic...
If anyone remembers 'Mork Mindy' the TV comedy series with Robin Williams,
Mindy's father ran a music-shop in Boulder, CO.
Hip-hip Ouray...The Boulder Early Music Shop has been found again!
Ron (UK)
They are at:
Boulder Early Music Shop
731 Main Street (in back
Stephan has said my thoughts exactly. I'm sure a lot of us only play for
our own pleasure, but would love to be able to improve and play properly.
Thanks to Rob and a few others who are willing to bring beginners and
students on to a more competent level.
Sharing video-clips is an excellent
'Justa one couranto...Play it to me.
Delicious lute-tune...from Italy'...etc.
UK residents will recognize the connection (sung to 'O Sola Mio').sp? A
TV-ad. shows a young couple in a gondola, snatching an ice-cream from one
passing in the opposite direction.
Ah, memories...
Best Wishes
Ron
Hi Ed, et al
Line 23 'When blood is nipped' I would understand as having no circulation
usually in the fingers and toes (from the cold), the flow of blood has been
'nipped' or stopped by pinching.
'The ways be foul' I would understand as 'The roads (lanes) are muddy,
making travel difficult,
Also, isn't there a greater possibility that fingering at a thicker fret
will distort the pitch for that given note according to the pressure
applied?
Ron (UK)
-Original Message-
From: Martyn Hodgson [mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:24 AM
To:
During my days of historical re-enactments, we were warned of the dangers of
lead poisoning. Most of us used pewter tankards and plates. It was a big
no-no to polish them as this exposed more lead into the food and drink.
The drinking technique was to put both lips into the liquid, thus
JarosBaw Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl schrieb:
There is a difference in using some dangerous metals for ordinary items
and
musical strings. With former your contact is limited (like a mirror - you
rarely touch it). With later providing you play a lot, the skin contact is
enormous.
You
As I understand it.
We have standard theorboes and we have toy theorboes.
So if French poodles are anything to go by, there should also be miniature
theorboes.
I have waited two weeks for someone to ask this.
Now who knows the centimetres to tell the difference?
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
The phone number appears genuine...but it is not a land-line
http://www.ukphoneinfo.com/search.php?GNG=07024038157Submit=Submitd=nl
0044 is the international dialling code to the UK
This replaces the first 0 for national calls.
Over to you
Ron UK
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From: Anton Birula
Stewart wrote...
In the pop world, we don't see singers' glued to their music. Imagine
Madonna performing with a folder in her hand.
Precisely...Just wouldn't see the point bg
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This is what I call playing the stock-market!
Microsoft created a computer program called Songsmith to generate
songs from the input of numbers.
So this composer asked himself; Why not put in some actual economic
data. The results are really funny.
As I understand, 'feather' means lightly brushed over.
Like the blade of an oar passing over the water, tilted by the rower to
avoid dragging on the 'out' stroke.
'Feathering the prop'. Used where the propeller-blades of a variable-pitch
propeller can be turned so as not to produce any
Well, it started life as a mandolin, but somewhere along the line it has
been fitted with a guitar 'trapeze' tail-piece and bridge. The headstock
has also been sawn back from eight to six tuners to carry 6 single strings.
Yes...Poor thing.
I also own one of these Neopolitan mandolins, brought
On Jan 24, 2009, at 4:42 PM, David Tayler wrote:
...and the
leather shoes that some insist on wearing, sigh.
Why do so many people wear trainers? - Training for what?
I do not own any trainers, - probably because I rarely wear jeans. Trainers
go with nothing else, -unless you live in
My take on this is that children from about 1 year begin to scribble with a
crayon with a particular hand, then stick with it. By the time they start
school at 4 - 5 years and taught to write, they are already set in their
ways.
Ron (UK)
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From: Stephan Olbertz
I suppose on that note I am a lefty too. I draw and write with my left hand
(does that make me a pen-pusher?). I also use a spoon and toothbrush
left-handed. But in all else, I am right-handed.
I would give my right-arm to be ambidextrous!
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
Miles wrote...
What an
IMHO The piano keyboard has remained standard with bass to the left and
treble to the right. This is because the right hand is normally more
dextrous to cope with the fast playing required at that end.
The left hand, being slower can more easily deal with the bass notes.
But the question
Slightly off topic, but I thought I should share this recent message...
Subject: Thought Provoking
A man sat at a metro station in Washington DC and started to play the
violin; it was a cold December morning. He played six Bach pieces for
about 45 minutes. During that time, since
My own opinion is that talent is wasted in the open-air, no matter how good
a player, or how good the instrument. Buskers must play loud to be heard
above the traffic. Their skill is often forfeited in this environment to
catch people's ear amid the bustle.
Classical musicians are mostly
Thanks Dana,
There is nothing like a captive audience. Sometimes you wonder what you are
in for when the performer asks if the theatre doors are all locked yet!
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
No one ever mentions that in the NY subway musicians often draw a
gigantic crowd of people who stop and
Thanks Chris,
It does have six strings and six tuning pegs, a carved rose, and what looks
like a tie-on bridge with carved ears much like an early 19th. c. guitar.
There are three (!) low, apparently wooden frets, widely spaced, and glued
or tacked onto the rather long neck. Perhaps the Kingdom
Yes, The Tale of Despereaux is the one I reported early in December, before
the film was released on Dec 19th. Unfortunately, these YouTube clips are
far too brief to discern exactly what the king is playing.
I think we'll have to watch the film to find out more, for the full picture
of the
Hi all,
My old dictionary gives this meaning...
Tocsin: (tok-sin) [M.F. toquesing (O.F. toquer, to TOUCH, sing, SIGNAL)], n.
An alarm-bell; the ringing of an alarm-bell, an alarm-signal.
Church-bells have been used as an alarm in times past. Is this another
possibility?
Ron (UK)
Coming soon...
`The Tale of Despereaux' is an animation-film about a heroic mouse who
tries to save a kingdom from a lack of love and light. The despondent
king sits in his chamber playing a lute, quite tastefully I might
add..
This Christmas release has excellent detail and
I use Nylgut for my lutes for their longevity. It may not be recommended,
but I wind all the spare string onto the peg, leaving very little over at
the bridge.
It has been my experience when a string has broken, either near the nut or
the peg, there has been sufficient unused string to draw from
Luddites were machine-wreckers who sought to halt the industrial revolution
in knitting-machines - right here in Loughborough UK.
Well before my time, I might add!
Modern knitting machines are operated by computers, which can't be too far
from tablature.
Any ideas which piece would knit up into
I copy/pasted the URL into my search-engine, it didn't find it. It kept
switching it to johndowland.com!!! (It found lot's of other John Dowland
sites). After five pages, I decided another tactic...
I copy/pasted it direct into my browser window - got it fist time!
Just a thought if anyone
I would have thought nought of playing under a fair maiden's balcony!
-Original Message-
From: Herbert Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:46 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Informal performing situations.
In the past year or two,
The Audacity 1.3.5 version I'm running has an effect called Bass Boost.
You set which frequency you want to boost and how many dB to boost by.
Very simple to use.
Many thanks Stephen (The other).
I have now located Audacity's Bass Boost in the Effects menu. I'll give
this a try next time I
Many thanks for this information which, to serious recorded-music
enthusiasts will be essential reading and to quite a few on this list.
For me I was only seeking a simple answer to being able to play some of my
vinyl-records in the car. (They are a bit cumbersome for that), so serious
quality
Hi Stephen et al,
I have used Audacity to copy vinyl MP3 CD but found the end result has
very little bass to it. There is no bass-setting on my USB-turntable. So
the settings on the stereo only enhance the audio output from the turntable.
The USB-cable goes direct into the PC. Bass just isn't
I concur with Gary on this.
I have to say, I'm not sure I agree with this policy of banning people
from posting on the lutelist. I know that some people engage in ad hominem
arguing, name calling, insults etc., but it seems to me one can always use
the delete button to eliminate postings
David vO wrote...
I'm into bits of fret gut, held in place with tape, these days. The
tape painters use, and lute makers btw, that doesn't leave sticky bits
on your fingerboard. Though on one or two instruments I still have the
wires, they look cool. ;-)
I assume this is what I know as
There was a documentary on UK TV this week about the evolvement of the
guitar.
It contained a short clip of a visit to Mike Tyzak(sp.?) somewhere in
London, for a demonstration of the oud and it's cousin, the lute. It
moved on to baroque guitars, Spanish guitars and finally,
http://www.scottsabbotsford.co.uk/
Here's a link to the location for those too far away to visit.
It is a beautiful house overlooking the River Tweed on the Scottish border.
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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From: Rob MacKillop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September
Daniel wrote...
I have always
hated the clunky look of nearly every builder's 10 course lute, and
thought that if I wanted a 10 course custom built I would merely
order one based on the 11 course model. I have been pleased to see
that some 10 course lutes are now, in fact, built on the 11
I am eager to hear all the possibilities in bringing a dormant lute back
into use. It sounds like a challenging and worthwhile project.
However, the time spent on restoration could take longer than learning to
play for a scholarship. Why not rent or buy an instrument and get
practicing, before
Excellent David!
So, this is Zamboni? I really must look into his music, - if Rob says it is
easier than Weiss. I think you just made it look easy!
Well done.
Ron (UK)
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From: David Rastall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 7:22 PM
To: Lute Net
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00794j3.shtml?order=aztitle%3Aalphab
etical
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b00794j3.shtml?order=aztitle%3Aalpha
beticalfilter=channel%3Abbc_fourscope=iplayerchannelsstart=1version_pidb006pd2r
I have asked the collective wisdom about this anomaly a few weeks ago. I
also approached the Fronimo Users Group. Francesco Tribioli himself offered
advice, but either it was too complicated or I simply misunderstood a point,
it didn't work for me.
I need a remedy for setting the tablature
Mark wrote...
Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the
main problem with a lute is that it lacks a leg that shines.
Are we leading on to the cello-pin thread again?
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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Sorry, I should have attributed this to Peter N.
Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the
main problem with a lute is that it lacks a leg that shines.
Are we leading on to the cello-pin thread again with this one?
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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Zarlino, in _Istitutioni harmoniche_, 1558, wrote: Matters for the singer
to observe are these: First of all he must aim diligently to perform what
the composer has written. He must not be like those who, wishing to be
thought worthier and wiser than their colleagues, indulge in certain rapid
The problem being, this garbage gets recycled!
BTW To a player, maybe long-neck lutes continuo (into infinity)!
BTW 2 The 'Continuo' link leads to a French language Lycos-page. Sorry to
disappoint you guys... Whatever it had has been removed.
Ron (UK)
Steve Kenyon wrote...
There's more garbage
I bet it was CUTE!
You probably need some new glasses!! bg
Ron (UK)
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On Apr 12, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Ron Fletcher wrote:
I bet it was CUTE!
You probably need some new glasses!! bg
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Does 'getting smarter' from our e-mails, mean he will return one day - with
some polished 'netiquette'?
Ron (UK)
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Thank you Stewart,
This is a nice find. I see that the first page uses almost the same edifice
as the first page of 'Variety of Lute Lessons'.
Copy/Paste is nothing new!
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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From: Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25,
http://www.lautenist.de/Ostinato.mp3
Hope you'll like it
Thomas
Of course I like it! There is nothing amateurish about this one.
A beautiful historic sound.
I'm hesitant to say 'It takes me back...'
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Dear collective wisdom,
I have left a message on the Fronimo forum (Feb 9th) but no one has replied
of late.
Basically, since installing Fronimo 3 (build 27 Demo) on my PC, I have
noticed that all my 'saved files' (- in e-mail attachments and recent
downloads to Desktop), now have a
Dante wrote...
Then fasten the end of the string upon some hook, or nail, to the top of
the seiling, so, as the weight may well-nigh touch the bottom of the floor;
and when this is done, set it to work, after this manner, viz.
Take the weight in your hand, and carry it to one side of the room,
Hi all,
I have been on-line and using M$ Outlook for the past 12 years without any
problem. I have heard that M$ Outlook-Express is more likely to be targeted
with problems as most users have now moved onto this. I have stuck with
Outlook.
I sometimes get a list-message turn up in my Junk
Paul Keiffer wrote...
All this talk about the last chord: yes i understand it is written major
and its what dowland said, but i dont think it is that big a deal when you
take the interpretation as a whole. Edin's performance was remarkably well
crafted, and imo he brought out the structure of the
The first question I ask is...
How long is a piece of string?
Then I can begin to get organized!
Ron (UK)
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From: Ed Durbrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:05 PM
To: LuteNet list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: string organization
I hope I haven't
The next time you order from Dan Larson, if he asks you, How long do you
want the string?,
reply,: I was hoping to keep it!
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Chris Wilkie wrote...
Now, let's be positive: Ron(Andrico)- do you have any ideas
about getting young folks involved?
I think Betsy Small had the right idea, introducing children at a young age
to the lute. Those impressions can last a long time.
BTW Her website http://www.storyminstrels.com
Hi Roman, Ed and other interested parties,
In discussing the possibility of reversal of the painting of the lutenist on
http://www.aquilacorde.com/lutes.htm
I recently suggested the painting is NOT a mirror image on the basis of the
subject's hair style.
Roman replied...
Is hair parting
I was watching local TV-news last night when there was a feature on an
Elizabethan period performer from Lincolnshire.
He has recently discovered a book of 'bawdy drinking-songs' written by Henry
Purcell, a composer we would not readily associate with this type of music.
Dante Ferrara is an
- You can be pretty sure a lot of people were doing it.
Best to all,
C.
I always thought secks was what the posh people had their coal in...
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Hi Ed,
IMHO I would say that it is a sword. I have a cup-hilt rapier with
identical quillions (the cross piece). The curved metal bar is the
knuckle-bow (to protect the knuckles). The handle and pommel seem quite
short in comparison to mine. The actual 'cup' is obscured in this painting.
The
two pence
Happy New Year
Ron (UK)
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From: Ron Fletcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 3:26 PM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: RE: [LUTE] metal contraption/RH on the bridge?
Hi Ed,
IMHO I would say that it is a sword. I have a cup-hilt
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