[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-14 Thread Anthony Hind
Anthony ___ De : Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com À : lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Envoyé le : Dimanche 12 février 2012 18h51 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes The dumpes question seems to have settled down again but I have to wonder, could they simply be a lullabies

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-14 Thread Sean Smith
18h51 Objet : [LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes The dumpes question seems to have settled down again but I have to wonder, could they simply be a lullabies? The repetitive, hypnotic character is like no other kind of composition and they never really get what you could call exciting. I'm thinking

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-14 Thread Stephen Fryer
The earliest dompe that I know of is My Lady Carey's Dompe, an English keyboard piece from around 1530 (longtime favourite of mine). Does anyone know of anything else? The Affect of these pieces (Dumps, spelled how you will, and Downs) is melancholic, but the meaning of that word has changed

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-13 Thread Denys Stephens
[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Tayler Sent: 13 February 2012 06:55 To: lute Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes Well, we may never know, but it probably is like ground d __ From: Sean Smith lutesm

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-13 Thread David Tayler
. __ From: Denys Stephens denyssteph...@sky.com To: lute net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Mon, February 13, 2012 2:36:59 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes Dear All, The words of the song 'Where griping grief...' from 'Romeo Juliet' are quite

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-12 Thread Sean Smith
, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: Bernd sent me the following (I don't think it got to the whole list): -- Forwarded Message From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:51 +0100 To: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [LUTE] Dumps and Downes I have

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-12 Thread David Tayler
Well, we may never know, but it probably is like ground d __ From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sun, February 12, 2012 9:51:49 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-09 Thread Leonard Williams
Bernd sent me the following (I don't think it got to the whole list): -- Forwarded Message From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:38:51 +0100 To: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [LUTE] Dumps and Downes I have only 2 dumps and thought them

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-09 Thread tom
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Dumps and Downes I have only 2 dumps and thought them to be quite humpty-dumpty, but read this: ** Dump. A type of instrumental piece occurring in English sources between about 1540 and 1640. Some 20 examples are known, more than half of them for lute and most

[LUTE] Re: Dumps and Downes

2012-02-07 Thread Leonard Williams
Thanks, all! I'll be looking up LGV Publications next, I suppose. Leonard On 2/6/12 7:49 PM, Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net wrote: What can the collective wisdom share about a style of composition called down(e) or dump? I have four of these: two from Holmes (ff. 12, 94) and two