[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-08 Thread Sauvage Valéry
-Message d'origine- À : LuteNet list Objet : [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette and the sound is very likely what you would have heard 15 feet from the lute (or what one of Marco's contemporaries would have heard him playing from down the banquet table). I'm not sure about what

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-08 Thread howard posner
Sauvage Valéry wrote: 'm not sure about what you said above, because halls at that time had tapestry All of them? Without exception? How do we know this? and people during banquet were making much noise... so I believe the result of reverb would have been very different... ;-))) I

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-08 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette To: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, 8 September, 2010, 5:37 On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Narada wrote: Yes Howard, you are right, I didn't read the notes. That's what happens with a lot of lute players who get

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Narada
a little 'wetness' to the sound, not drowned it. Very dissapointing. Neil -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Durbrow Sent: 04 April 2010 00:16 To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette On Apr 3

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread howard posner
On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Narada wrote: I recently purchased this CD. ..but didn't read Paul's insert notes? The sound quality is awful, it is completely washed out with 'Hall Reverb' The individual notes can hardly be seperated in some of the faster passages. This recording needs

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Alexei Nicolai
, September 07, 2010 1:43 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Narada wrote: I recently purchased this CD. ..but didn't read Paul's insert notes? The sound quality is awful, it is completely washed out with 'Hall Reverb' The individual notes can hardly

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Narada
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of howard posner Sent: 07 September 2010 21:44 To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Narada wrote: I recently purchased this CD. .but didn't read Paul's insert notes

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Narada
To: LuteNet list Subject: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Narada wrote: I recently purchased this CD. .but didn't read Paul's insert notes? The sound quality is awful, it is completely washed out with 'Hall Reverb' The individual notes can hardly be seperated

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-09-07 Thread Christopher Stetson
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Narada wrote: I recently purchased this CD. .but didn't read Paul's insert notes? The sound quality is awful, it is completely washed out with 'Hall Reverb' The individual notes can hardly be seperated

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-17 Thread wolfgang wiehe
in the booklet exactly the sources.. Greetings W. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Denys Stephens Gesendet: Samstag, 3. April 2010 15:08 An: 'lute-cs.dartmouth.edu' Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette Dear All

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-04 Thread David Tayler
Two Schoeps omnis, either the MK2s or the MK2H, depending on the date of the recording and when the MK2H was available. Just a guess :) d At 01:06 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote: Not to beat this issue of recorded sound to death, but I just listened to a CD I'd forgotten I had: The Renaissance

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-04 Thread Nedmast2
Thanks for that informatinon, d. Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-03 Thread Denys Stephens
Dear All, My apologies for digressing from the interesting discussion on the use of microphones. My copy of the Marco CD arrived this morning, and having listened to it intently, I agree with many of the sentiments expressed here about the sound, particularly when played through a speaker system,

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-03 Thread Nedmast2
For sure many good recordings have come from the Decca tree set-up (I'm not sure if I've heard any other than orchestral). I hope d will have time this summer to put some mixes on line - I'd like to compare them. Ned -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-03 Thread Nedmast2
Not to beat this issue of recorded sound to death, but I just listened to a CD I'd forgotten I had: The Renaissance Lute, by Ronn Mc Farlane on Dorian. To me this is one of the better recent (well, 1994) lute recordings I've heard. I'm familiar with Dorian as a company well

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-03 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:55 AM, [1]nedma...@aol.com wrote: I'm sceptical that - assuming the positioning of a main pair of mics is very good but not perfect - that adding in other pairs that are necessarily even less well placed will provide improved sound. Like DT said,

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-02 Thread David Tayler
Well, the sound is different, that is for sure. The sound signature is due to multiple reflections and positioning the mics such that the reflected sound is as strong or stronger than the direct sound. However, because it does not sound quite like sitting at the back of the church, I supect

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-02 Thread Nedmast2
Well, recorded sound is a matter of taste, to be sure (it seems clear that there is no reference for good recorded sound). But I would be curious as to why dt feels so many - 6 or more - mics are necessary for recording a single instrument. Whether it's multi-micing or too much

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I totally concur, Ned ! 2 excellent mics and proper acoustics are largely sufficient for a lute ! Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 02-04-2010, 16:55:11 == Well, recorded sound is a matter of taste, to be sure (it seems clear that there is no

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-02 Thread Jarosław Lipski
So do I. Generally there are 2 schools of recording: 1/with lots of mics to catch various plans of the room acoustics which gives later bigger choices in mixing 2/purist - just pair of stereo mics to sound as natural as possible. I prefer the latter. Please have a look at the spacing of mics

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-02 Thread Nedmast2
Did anyone else have a problem bringing up the site Jaroslaw provided? I would like to see his microphone set up. Regarding dt's reasons for using several mics, the ones regarding malfunctions or surround sound recording make perfect sense (though I'm sure that any engineer would

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-02 Thread Nedmast2
P.S. Just to offer a bit of perspective to my previous comments: I've done quit a number of recordings of violinists, pianists, and chamber groups (string quartets, piano trios, etc.) with two good (not super) quality mics and unsophisitcated electronics that resulted in

[LUTE] Re: Marco dall'Aquila / O'Dette

2010-04-02 Thread David Tayler
The additional mics will make it sound better AND more natural, if used skillfully. But, as I said before, you can turn them off in post, so you have it both ways. Why not have it both ways? There can be no good reason to not put them up, then remove them later if not needed. Anyone who has