Hello Mr. Isbin
I can only answer your questions from my own perspective - naturally. I have
tried to do so below:
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of
Gilbert Isbin
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:33 PM
To: LS LUTELIST
Subject: [LUTE] Some qu
A great number of instruments survived the ages since composers and
players wrote music and applied techincs that fitted the spirit of that
moment. So why not the lute.
It's a challenge for contemporary composers to make modern music for
this beatifull instrument. Do not only look ba
Could part of the answer be that you see/hear/know a limited set of
lute players, a set that tends to gather in this forum, and don't
see/hear the more broadly minded lute players in this world? Or perhaps
does this forum tend to talk mostly about hipp lute playing, even
though many
"modern" compositions?
Regards,
Leonard Williams
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From: Wim Loos
To: gilbert.isbin
Cc: LuteNet list
Sent: Wed, Mar 14, 2018 5:56 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
A great number of instruments survived the ages since com
Well said, Joe.
RT
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> On Mar 14, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Mayes, Joseph wrote:
>
> Hello Mr. Isbin
>
> I can only answer your questions from my own perspective - naturally. I have
> tried to do so below:
>
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Dear Mr. Isbin,
I admire your hard work and innovative approach. Emphasis on
improvisation is
a great way to bring the lute back into the modern world.
A major hurdle is that people seem to gravitate toward
the familiar. Kids nowadays seem to want their ears blasted
out and e
Gilbert;
I am in full agreement with David van Ooijen and Joseph Mayes (his
response copied & pasted below David's for continuity/clarity.
You obviously do not know me- not your fault, of course, because unlike
David- a most out-there & publicly active musician I am now pretty much
Maybe because, firstly much of the music composed for lute today is
incredibly trite and uninteresting when set against the works of the
great composers of the renaissance and the baroque period (personally I
feel there is so much historic repertory yet to discover that I am not
at a
> On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Matthew Daillie wrote:
>
> Maybe because, firstly much of the music composed for lute today is
> incredibly trite and uninteresting when set against the works of the
> great composers of the renaissance and the baroque period
Wow! You must have heard some of m
A number of years ago at the Sydney Conservatorium there was a
performance called the Two Robert Johnsons, played on lute.
Regards,
Charles Moller
From: Gilbert Isbin
To: LS LUTELIST
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2018, 8:34
Subject: [LUTE] Some questions
Why is the lute w
Here's my answers to your questions. I don't know if this is actually
true or not, but I feel that way.
Am 14.03.2018 um 22:33 schrieb Gilbert Isbin:
Why is the lute world ruled by early music ?
It's just that the music is SO good that it's hard to think of anything
else so much fun, int
I think this is not the first time this question is raised - back in the
early 20th century there were several revivals of early music. We
remember them because of the effect thy had on modern music: Ravel,
Manuel Ponce, Respighi. But at the time, the question was to revive
music from the past.
On 15/03/2018 01:45, Ron Andrico wrote:
I don't usually bother to respond to your sniping noises,
There is no stature to be gained by treating the work of others with
disdain while claiming a morally superior position
Goodness Ron , those are comments that could definitely have grant
Actually we do have some of them and this is one of the topics that I have
dealt with in my thesis (modern and contemporary Lute music), it's a very
interesting research that goes on, looking for new aspects still to be dealt
with
Best regards to all
Silvia
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> Il giorno 15 ma
On 15/03/2018 00:16, howard posner wrote:
Maybe because, firstly much of the music composed for lute today is
incredibly trite and uninteresting when set against the works of the
great composers of the renaissance and the baroque period
Wow! You must have heard some of my stuff.
OK,
: Matthew Daillie
Cc: Ron Andrico ; LS LUTELIST
Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 7:53 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Actually we do have some of them and this is one of the topics that I
have dealt with in my thesis (modern and contemporary Lute music), it's
a very intere
It's not fear, it's taste. People play music that appeals to them.
A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
Francisco Goya
On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:16 PM, howard posner <[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
wrote:
On Mar 14, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Matthew Daillie
On 15/03/2018 18:38, Ron Andrico wrote:
I'd like to draw particular attention to your pointing out that
narcissism motivates the many reactions that deride new music by those
who appear to enjoy "shooting from the lip" on just about any
lute-related topic. Spot on. Without passing jud
dea of not composing for the lute is an anachronism.
RA
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of Tristan von Neumann
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:43 AM
To: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some
That has been my argument for the last 20 years.
RT
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> On Mar 15, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Ron Andrico wrote:
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> The very idea of not composing for the lute is an anachronism.
>
> RA
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I TOTALLY support that- also, maybe the occasional transcription of a
post-l historical lute era piece? Obviously some guitar stuff, but
perhaps others. I have an archlute version of Debussy's "La fille aux
cheveux de lin" made years ago, I forget which lutenist. I made my own
transc
and what are the exceptions, in your opinion?
RT
On 15/03/2018 00:16, howard posner wrote:
Maybe because, firstly much of the music composed for lute today is
incredibly trite and uninteresting when set against the works of the
great composers of the renaissance and the baroque pe
Just to be clear, in case anyone has forgotten, the remarks Roman is addressing
are Matthew’s, not mine. I was quoting Matthew.
> On Mar 15, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>
> and what are the exceptions, in your opinion?
> RT
>
>>On 15/03/2018 00:16, howard posner wrote:
>>
>>
Let's collect some ideas what late 19th/20th century music to play on
the lute :)
I suppose many pieces of Erik Satie would sound great on the lute.
Ravel's "La Vallée des Cloches" is probably nice for Baroque lute,
though you would need an expert to transcribe this adequately.
https://www.yo
The publication that has the Debussy does, in fact, have a couple of
Satie's Gymnopedes..
I'll post the details if I can find it. Apparently some of this work
has already been going on, if a bit under the radar.
Dan
On 3/15/2018 5:22 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
Let's collect some ideas what
"Claude Debussy & Erik Satie - 4 Pieces for Lute"
Arranged and Intabulated by Jonathan Rubin
Tree-Edition, Munchen - Tablature Copied by Albert Reymann
Copyright 1986
On 3/15/2018 6:24 PM, Dan Winheld wrote:
The publication that has the Debussy does, in fact, have a couple of
Satie's Gymnopedes
Has been done. There's a cd with satie on lute.
David
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:24, Dan Winheld <[1]dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote:
"Claude Debussy & Erik Satie - 4 Pieces for Lute"
Arranged and Intabulated by Jonathan Rubin
Tree-Edition, Munchen - Tablature Copied by Albert Reyma
Satie arranged for the lute by G. Isbin
Gnossienne 1, 2 and 3, Elegie, Marche de Cocagne
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l1HziUDIIM&list=PLoNMcNOgUKFkmXdv7V
tYvR25wKBfmBOdg
3 Nick Drake Songs arranged for the lute by G. Isbin
[2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_0nIQ63JJw
There are many great songs by Hugo Wolf - the piano score would need to be
reduced in ambitus to fit in the range of any lute.
Johann Kaspar Mertz is the only "real" guitar composer of the romantic period
AND often (not all of it) is fairly hard to play. What is even more
interesting about Mer
the publication is
4 pieces fo archlute
by Claude Debussy and Erik Satie
arranged and intabulated by
Jonathan Rubin
available from TREE EDITION
in their
tree today series
of contemporary lute music
TREE EDITION
Albert Reyerman
Finkenberg 89
23558 Luebeck
Germany
albertreyer...@kabelmail.de
w
: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
There are many great songs by Hugo Wolf - the piano score would need to
be reduced in ambitus to fit in the range of any lute.
Johann Kaspar Mertz is the only "real" guitar composer of the romantic
period AND often (not all of it) is fairly hard to pla
If it seems odd to want to play modern music on a lute it is surely
odder to only play a lute and only ever to play music that was composed
centuries ago.
Perhaps no one is odd enough for that! If there were such a person - who
would only, ever, play centuries' old music (however gem-laden i
On 3/16/2018 9:26 AM, WALSH STUART wrote:
If there were such a person - who would only, ever, play centuries'
old music would it be enough to say that this choice was the harmless
choice of a free being?
Yes indeed. It would be quite enough! Most of my students over the years
have been just
everyone else.
Does anyone here not have or play any instrument at all but the lute?
Wayne
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> From: WALSH STUART
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
> Date: March 16, 2018 at 12:26:07 PM EDT
>
> If it seems odd to want to play modern music on a lu
thing modern. Especially when we need
to be as loud as everyone else.
Does anyone here not have or play any instrument at all but the lute?
Wayne
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> From: WALSH STUART <[1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
play any instrument at all but the lute?
>
> Wayne
>
>
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>> From: WALSH STUART
>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
>> Date: March 16, 2018 at 12:26:07 PM EDT
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>> If it seems odd to want to play modern music on a l
play modern music. I for
one prefer to pick up the guitar for such purposes.
Mathias
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Everybody is free to do with their lutes, or should be so, what they
like best.
Gilbert's initial observation was, though, that some 90% of this tiny
community don't seem to be interested in newly compose
aybe we are
>> overlooking contemporary lute music because we tend to pick up a different
>> instrument to play something modern. Especially when we need to be as loud
>> as everyone else.
>>
>> Does anyone here not have or play any instrument at all but the lut
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> Since you asked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ3kCnbnSnc
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> > On Mar 16, 2018, at 2:09 PM, John Mardinly
Trick question: When Paul O'Dette plays an arrangement of a ragtime on
lutes, it that early music or modern music?
I am reminded of a quote by a jazz player (whose name escapes me now):
there are only two kinds of music, the good one and the other one. Which
one should we play on which instrum
Especially when we need to be as loud as everyone else.
Does anyone here not have or play any instrument at all but the
lute?
Wayne
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Date: March 16,
Alain Veylit
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:28 PM
To: lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Trick question: When Paul O'Dette plays an arrangement of a ragtime on lutes,
it that early music or modern music?
I am reminded of a quote by a jazz player (whose name escapes me now):
there are
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[mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Veylit
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:28 PM
To: lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Trick question: When Paul O'Dette plays an arrangement of a r
guitarists to read lute-tabbed recercari than to play later music on
the lute.
Leonard
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From: Mathias.Roesel
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 2:28 pm
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Everybody is free to do with their lutes, or should
From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
[mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Alain Veylit
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:28 PM
To: lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Trick question: When Paul O'Dette plays an arrangement of a ragtime on
lute
Hi dear lutenist friends
I've played many unorthodox lute thingies to the YouTube, oftenmost very
badly. ;-) Here are links to some of them:
* Pietre Rotolanti: Dipingi nera quella porta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuyf4uha8fs
* Something very different: short teenage memory ... ;-)
h
eorga on my Mind' at present. My attiorbatos have a range
of 5 octaves.
Sterling
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Hi dear lutenist friends
I've played many unorthodox lute thingies to the YouTube, oftenmost
very
badly. ;-) Here are links to some of them:
* Pietre Rotolanti: Dipingi nera quella porta:
h
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To: lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Trick question: When Paul O'Dette plays an arrangement of a ragtime on lutes,
it that ear
g on my
version of 'Georga on my Mind' at present. My attiorbatos have a range
of 5 octaves.
Sterling
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lable, and so was my
curiosity for new shores to explore.
Mathias
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> Cc: lutelist Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
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&g
and the
instrument will thrive in the future.
RA
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Tristan and Mathais, you have hit upon a very important point.
While
not as expensive as they should be relative to the demanding
craftsmanship of construction, lutes are too costly for professional
musicians to *collect*. That is a
55 AM
To: Lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Funds may be the pivotal point. For my first ten years with the
lute
I
used to play just anything on my one and only 8c lute that Larry
Brown
had built for Budget Instruments Ltd. By
the age of
trump(;
Sterling
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From: Tristan von Neumann
Date: 3/17/18 9:37 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: lutelist Net
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Yes, but they are not "collecting"
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Yes, but they are not "collecting" lutes I guess. They have them
because
they can play the music intended for it.
Lute collectors seem mostly wealthy amateurs :)
If I don't play an instrument enough, I give it away or sell it.
Am 17.0
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Sent: Sunday, 18 March 2018, 4:25
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
Yes, but they are not "collecting" lutes I guess. They have them
because
they can play the music intended for it.
Lute collectors seem mostly wealth
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Date: 3/17/18 9:37 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: lutelist Net
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Yes, but they are not "collecting" lutes I guess. They have them
because
they can play the music intended for it.
Eh!
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Some questions
It shines through in this forum. :)
Am 18.03.2018 um 09:32 schrieb Martyn Hodgson
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Datum: 2018-03-18T13:40:59+0100
Von: "Tristan von Neumann"
An: "lutelist Net"
Well, it is about the use of the word "collect" then.
You just own six lutes.
Also, you did not mention that you built most of th
Well, people will sometimes hear a dog whistle that’s only audible to them.
Allow me to touch on a couple of your original points that I don’t think have
been discussed. You asked why lutenists who try to do something else with the
instrument are looked down on. Presumably by something else you
Thanks for your answer Daniel
Indeed when I toured in California with bassplayer Scott Walton (USA)
in some conservatories - in one of them we did a workshop on
improvisation-, galleries, and other places I got the feeling that
there was more openess. We even played in a jazzclub. Bu
Dear Jorg,
Your first question is as to whether or not the
notes should be played "Germainic " or
straightforward, or "French", using
inegale. That is not an easy question, and I am
not too certain as to the appropriate
answer. Certainly, this is French like music in
origin, but keep in m
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