[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Valéry, As for your initial question, the rondeau on fol. 51v is listed by Peter Steur with ten concordances: 1. A-ETgoëssV / 28v | 2. CZ-Bm189 / 108 (mandora) | 3. D-Gs84k / 40 | 4. GB-HAB2 / 181 (Sm 505) | 5. PL-Wn396 / 15v | 6. S-Klm 4a / 4v (keyboard) | 7. S-Klm21072 / 7

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
> So I wonder why, from folio 48r to 60 the tab use a low course, some notes > below the fifth line of the tab, often (if not all time ? I have to look > again) open string, and it is not used any more from folio 61 to the end of tab ? > For me this last part of tab is perhaps intended for guitar a

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Valéry Sauvage
t' Objet : [LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare > > Indeed I noticed the gallichon tuning, and wrote: "Interestingly > > one tuning on fol 6 is given as for the 'Calledono' which I presume > > refers to the gallichon thus once again showing an interchange i

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
> > Indeed I noticed the gallichon tuning, and wrote: "Interestingly > > one tuning on fol 6 is given as for the 'Calledono' which I presume > > refers to the gallichon thus once again showing an interchange in usage > > between the mandora and gallichon - though the tuning given is not > > one I r

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
hias RAP:sel < <mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de> mathias.roe...@t-online.de> >wrote: > > From: Mathias RAP:sel < <mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de> mathias.roe...@t-online.de> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare > To: "&

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
rary sources such as the Deisel MSs work best with this arrangement. But mere speculation of course.. Martyn --- On Mon, 26/3/12, Mathias RAP:sel wrote: From: Mathias RAP:sel Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare To: "'Lute Dmth'"

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
>The tablature is for guitar or mandora (a 6th course is required on the >earlier folios). Folio 48r shows the tuning with a 6th course (at nominal G ie a tone >below the 5th course) so this certainly looks like mandora music. The intervals >between the highest five courses is ident

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
>The tablature is for guitar or mandora (a 6th course is required on the >earlier folios). Folio 48r shows the tuning with a 6th course (at nominal G ie a tone >below the 5th course) so this certainly looks like mandora music. The intervals >between the highest five courses is ident

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- tho' some seem familiar ( a bit like Deisel's output) but the later staff notation pieces include music from Lully's (I think) Bellepheron. Martyn --- On Mon, 26/3/12, Valery Sauvage wrote: From: Valery Sauvage Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Tablature M

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Monica Hall
In modern terms, the ms. is neither for the guitar nor for the mandora, but for archguitar (see http://youtu.be/CNJaYInbbhs), as you can see on p. 48v. The required instrument has 12 (twelve) courses. The headline nevertheless reads: Accordo Cytharræ et Mandoræ. As far as I could make out t

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
> [1]http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/92004/8BBCF27BFD3362850AA8C1 > 98 >B985D9AD99E3393B.html?query=Losy+guitar > > >This is an interesting Ms with tabs for Mandora (Galichon ?) and >baroque guitar (from F. 48r, 6 courses, from 60v for 5 courses) Some >bibliographical inform

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Valéry Sauvage
You have to put together the two lines as there was a cut in the link... (all what is between < and > ) V. De : Martyn Hodgson [mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk]