Dear All:
In my experience the bass recorder is the instrument of the recorder
family that blends best in the English consort.
By the way, why not use the term English consort? Isn't there some
historical basis for that?
Cheers,
Jim
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On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
More recently the gittern tuning (with highest string
on the first
course at g') seems to have
.
Thanks for pointing out the inadequacy of the term Broken Consort
Ron. Confusing as it is, I decided to use the term when starting this
discussion because it's still the one most people are familiar with,
and I wanted to hear as many peoples comments about this repertoire as
possible!
All the best,
Sam
I have had the same experience as Nancy, and playing consorts with a recorder
was not a problem at all. You can just check that by listening to The Sacred
End Pavin ( http://tinyurl.com/54jvhd ) and the Galliard to The Sacred End (
http://tinyurl.com/4tw9mp ). No bandora, a bass lute in D
No wire strings??? What IS this world coming to...
(very nice just the same)
On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
I have had the same experience as Nancy, and playing consorts with a
recorder was not a problem at all. You can just check that by
listening to The Sacred End
Dear Stewart All:
I thought the term 'Broken Consort' had long ago been abandoned in
favor of 'Consort of Six' or something less confusing.
Best wishes,
Ron Andrico
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I have had the same experience as Nancy, and playing consorts with a
recorder was not a problem at all. You can just check that by listening
to The Sacred End Pavin ( http://tinyurl.com/54jvhd ) and the Galliard
with
divisions, but referred to the ensemble as the consort. Matthew Locke
used the phrase broken consort, but that was much later, and for a
different line-up of instruments.
In recent years people have come up with alternatives - Morley consort,
mixed consort, and consort-of-six - but none
Sadly true, Doc...for fear we might get wired up ;()
Jean-Marie
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No wire strings??? What IS this world coming to...
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My wife and I just played some renaissance flutes and recorders and
they were close to 440, maybe a bit lower, whatever the keynote was.
The instruments came in many sizes, so what was a D flute or a C
flute or a small bass flute is an interesting question.
All of the instruments sounded
On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
More recently the gittern tuning (with highest string on the first
course at g') seems to have found favour
Which tuning is this?
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to add, or correct, on cittern sizes, tunings, pitches etc
for the 'Rroken Consort' I'd be delighted to hear it.
MH
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On Sun, Oct 5, 2008, Doc Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
2. NRI current historical notes on cittern strings extract In 1602
Meuler was able to produce an even stronger wire, which allowed the
small cittern to tune up to g
note that the so-called mueller wire is argued, clear that something
I last played the broken consorts a long, long time ago with a recorder
and don't remember any problems with the octave shifts. I do remember
some concern about whether the lute was loud enough.
More recently I have enjoyed the CD by L'Poem Harmoniqe Love Is
Strange, which includes
Hi Sam,
These are interesting questions. At the recent Lute Society weekend Ian
Harwood managed to assemble a consort at the high pitch - a minor third
above modern pitch. I played my A lute tuned up a semitone, strung all
in gut except for the top string which was nylgut. For a gut string
particularly associated with this form (eg Allison) and presumably
from manuscripts copied for the Morley print.
regards
Martyn
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particularly associated with this form (eg Allison) and
presumably from manuscripts copied for the Morley print.
regards
Martyn
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Hi Martin,
Which pieces did you play? Were they from the Morley publication, the
Holmes manuscripts, or something else? Did you use flute or recorder?
It wasn't quite clear from your Email if the flute/recorder played at
the written pitch or an octave higher (I assume it was the former if
you
Dear Sam,
I'm copying Ian into this because apart from the fact that most of the
pieces we played were from the Holmes MSS, I can't remember the details
of what the flute parts do.
Can you enlighten us, Ian?
Best wishes,
Martin
Sam Chapman wrote:
Hi Martin,
Which pieces did you play?
are mostly
by other composers particularly associated with this form (eg Allison) and
presumably from manuscripts copied for the Morley print.
regards
Martyn
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, but it will
be worth it. From what I have read so far, I can safely say that it will
be an excellent book.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
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Puzzling, indeed ! I really
that it will
be an excellent book.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
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Puzzling, indeed ! I really look forward to the publication of Ian
Harwood's book on the subject
Dear Lute list,
I'm in the process of organizing a consort in Basel to play, among
other things, pieces from the Morley consort lessons. Having read
various articles on the subject and listened to recordings of the
music, I'm left with some difficult questions:
What pitch should the music be
Thanks to all who replied to my message. As always it is a pleasure how much
information I can get from this list.
Best wishes
Thomas
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I'm looking for sources for broken consort music. Morley and the likes.
Any
Musica Brittanica has a volume with broken consort music.
David
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Thomas:
This semester Case Western Reserve University here in Cleveland is performing
all known music connected with Lord Hayes 1607 masque, directed by David
Douglass. I'm playing cittern in the broken consort, although only two works
exist originally as broken consort settings (Richard
Hi,
I'm looking for sources for broken consort music. Morley and the likes. Any
recomendations?
Best wishes
Thomas
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