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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: Arto: Carbon fiber strings
Dear All,
As far as I know, all the talk about how wound strings dramatically
improved the lot of the poor lute player as soon as they were invented
(c.1660) is just wishful thinking
Dear All,
Thanks to RS for the information. Once wound strings started to be
used, it may well have been a matter of personal taste whether this or
that musician chose to use them (and still is today). But I would just
like to remind everyone that nearly all the lute music we play was
Craig,
Martin,
PVF stands for polyvinyl fluoride. I seem to remember that it is
actually polyvinyl carbon floride but I'm not certain.
I'm a bit confused myself, but let me quote from Mimmo Peruffo's U.S Patent
for Nylgut (not named as such in the patent, it is Polybutylene
Terephthalat as
Dear All,
Can we get carbon and carbon fibre properly defined? I'm no
chemist, but the strings most people are talking about are PVF, whatever
that is, but I think it's as much related to carbon as I am (admittedly
a lot) - so we need to be a bit more specific here.
Martin
To get
Dear All,
As far as I know, all the talk about how wound strings dramatically
improved the lot of the poor lute player as soon as they were invented
(c.1660) is just wishful thinking. If there is evidence of the use of
wound strings on any kind of lute before the 20th century I have not yet
Martin,
PVF stands for polyvinyl fluoride. I seem to remember that it is actually
polyvinyl carbon floride but I'm not certain.
Craig
Craig R. Pierpont
Another Era Lutherie
www.anotherera.com
Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear All,
Can we get carbon and carbon fibre properly
Just a note
There is substantial evidence of wound strings used on late 18th early 19th
century guitars..on the title page of many works published in Vienna shows
this very clearly.
Also, if my memory serves me well, there is a reference to the use of wound
strings (of some sort) in the
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:35, Ed Durbrow wrote:
I've never heard about archilute with wound basses (forgive my ignorance
if it is a common practice). If such thing exists, then, man, you will
have a grand piano sound!!lol
In _The Performance of the Basso Continuo in Italian Baroque
Do not not forget the enormous proliferation in the 18th centyry of
ARCHCITTERNS as well, and some of them were called archlutes.
RT
__
Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
UMI Research Press Ann Arbor Michigan by Tharald Borgir, it is stated
that the archlute increased in
I answer Gernot, and write to all.
Two posters? Conveniently as the non lute topic was so long I reset my
email list to subject so I could read the entire thread in sequence. Wow,
there next to each other were exact duplicate messages from Rosinfiorino and
Carlos Flores. The last time I connected
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To: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Carbon fiber strings
Dear lutenists
i'm not talking about the beauty of the bass (whatever that means),=20
what i talk about is the fact that most of us, lute players
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From: rosinfiorini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Carbon fiber strings
Jon wrote:
But it is only important on a lute as
to the chaterelle, and the highest pitch one wants to attain (and for
many
coursed
Jon wrote:
I can agree with the beauty of the bass
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i'm not talking about the beauty of the bass (whatever that means),
what i talk about is the fact that most of us, lute players, preffer
a LONGER VIBRATING TONE. I've taken time to read some
of your lenghtly writings (hard to find exactly what
Dear lutenists
i'm not talking about the beauty of the bass (whatever that means),=20
what i talk about is the fact that most of us, lute players, preffer
a LONGER VIBRATING TONE.
I strongly doubt that! Many, perhaps most of us(?), used some time ago
the wound pyramid basses. Those modern
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:24:53 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Carbon fiber strings
brDear lutenistsbrbr i'm not talking about the beauty of the bass
(whatever that means),=20br what i talk about is the fact that most of us,
lute players
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From: Arto Wikla [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:24:53 +0200 (EET)
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Carbon fiber strings
brDear lutenistsbrbr i'm not talking about
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
For that matter carbon is NEVER Used for the bass strings anyway.
Never say never! For years I have used carbon strings very successfully
in my French theorbo made by S. Barber. Works very well also for the bass
strings.
Arto
To get on or off
Arto Wikla mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
a LONGER VIBRATING TONE.
I strongly doubt that! Many, perhaps most of us(?), used some time ago
the wound pyramid basses. Those modern guitar style strings have very
long vibrating tone. And most of us(?) wanted to get rid of long
vibrating
, January 26, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber strings
For that matter carbon is NEVER Used for the bass strings anyway.
RT
--
http://polyhymnion.org/torban
Agreed. For my purposes, tuning stability and a tone quality that's
compatible
with the treble strings is more of a concern than
At 09:41 PM 1/26/2005 +, Mathias Rösel wrote:
yes, indeed. In August I attended a recital with music by Weiss, played
on a 13c swan-neck with endlessly vibrating wound basses. Couldn't help
falling asleep (my way of resistance in hopeless situations of that
kind).
Having a swan neck
I stand corrected, even if I didn't include long lutes into consideration.
RT
__
Roman M. Turovsky
http://polyhymnion.org/swv
U...
I use it for the fourteenth course of my theorbo. Gut was a bit too muddy
sounding and the carbon matches the tone of the other diapasons
Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Craig,
Does anybody have the mass and tensile strength values for carbon
fiber strings. (Saverez strings claim not to be carbon fiber so those
numbers won't necessarily work.) Thanks,
I use 1791 Kg/m³ for carbon (high density hydrocarbon polymer?)
strings
Dear Craig,
Does anybody have the mass and tensile strength values for carbon
fiber strings. (Saverez strings claim not to be carbon fiber so those
numbers won't necessarily work.) Thanks,
I use 1791 Kg/m³ for carbon (high density hydrocarbon polymer?)
strings in my calculator. Seems
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