2014-05-08 0:25 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org:
could we delete other languages present in the beamer manual?
I just tried to compile it on standard kubuntu install and get
many 'unknown option ngerman. either you misspelled it...'
from babel.
I understand that it might be something
2014-05-08 6:50 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda:
Hi,
sorry to crash the release party but after creating beamer file in 2.1.x
and trying to load it in 2.0.x
I still see bunch of strange errors:
Text.cpp (1766): Handling unknown body token: `\end_layout'
LyX: \end_deeper: depth is already null
2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org:
Don't see this with current branch.
Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Jürgen
Jürgen
On 07. mai 2014 09:36, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Try to use a modern font like Dejavu Serif, or maybe Garamond on
windows. Do you see some kerning? For example, in the string AV, the
bottom of the A should overlap with the top of the V. In such a case,
when a selection ends between the A and
Am 08.05.2014 um 11:33 schrieb Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:
On 07. mai 2014 09:36, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Try to use a modern font like Dejavu Serif, or maybe Garamond on
windows. Do you see some kerning? For example, in the string AV, the
bottom of the A should overlap with
Am Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014 um 15:18:42, schrieb José Matos jama...@lyx.org
On Wednesday 07 May 2014 11:23:48 Kornel Benko wrote:
At least prints could be rewritten with
import sys
...
sys.out.write(...)
or
output = open(...)
output.write()
On 08. mai 2014 12:22, Stephan Witt wrote:
Currently the drawing of LyX is not appropriate for high resolution displays.
I'm afraid your suggestion is not suitable to improve this.
I didn't know that. In that case, the background only selection seems
like a good alternative.
The trick
Hi to all,
I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is
somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral
students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to
everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations
necessary
Am Dienstag, 6. Mai 2014 um 21:47:59, schrieb Kornel Benko kor...@lyx.org
Am Dienstag, 6. Mai 2014 um 21:35:23, schrieb Enrico Forestieri
for...@lyx.org
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 08:44:18PM +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
I cannot get it to be shown in menu.
Most probably you have
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that
should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new
criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here.
Let me stress, in case it has
On 06/05/2014 11:06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
04/05/2014 22:14, Vincent van Ravesteijn:
When selecting the first character, I see two things:
1) the connection between characters is lost (in master this is not the
case)
2) the first character actually moves to the right on selection (while
Le 08/05/14 11:33, Helge Hafting a écrit :
This yields two bitmaps that can be combined to a bicolor string with no
changes to kerning or ligatures. Use part of one bitmap before the
cursor position, and the other bitmap after the cursor position.
Hopefully, the windowing system can do this with
Le 08/05/14 18:45, Abdelrazak Younes a écrit :
I don't read Arabic but my wife does. I'll see if I can find time over
the week-end to compile your branch.
Thanks, you're a sweetheart. I already know that cursor positioning is
wrong, but I am not sure yet how to make this work. If smething
On 05/08/2014 09:14 AM, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
commit 769b585176a78bc9a1380190e145aafdbe7d3a17
Author: Juergen Spitzmueller sp...@lyx.org
Date: Thu May 8 15:14:44 2014 +0200
Beamer block conversion: consider ERT arguments with leading/trailing
blanks
Should also go to
Am Donnerstag, 8. Mai 2014 um 18:57:02, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
lasgout...@lyx.org
Le 08/05/14 11:33, Helge Hafting a écrit :
This yields two bitmaps that can be combined to a bicolor string with no
changes to kerning or ligatures. Use part of one bitmap before the
cursor position,
Le 08/05/14 19:14, Kornel Benko a écrit :
Assume that I want to draw abcde and bcd is selected. Then I will
draw the string twice:
Or three times?
a
bcd
e
That is what I want to avoid. In Arabic, for example, 'a' will may a
different shape depending on whether it is at the end of a word or
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org:
Don't see this with current branch.
Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Looks like lyx2lyx won't preserve \begin_deeper \end_deeper pairs.
Don't have time to investigate
2014-05-08 19:39 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda:
Looks like lyx2lyx won't preserve \begin_deeper \end_deeper pairs.
Don't have time to investigate now.
OK. But this is certainly not enough information to debug.
Jürgen
Pavel
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
All feedback is received and noted.
I tried to fight new beamer ui yesterday and I noticed these points:
- suggested trick to create new frame alt+p+(shift)+return is not really
helpfull
is most cases. Typical situation - I want to create new frame after finishing
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-08 19:39 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda:
Looks like lyx2lyx won't preserve \begin_deeper \end_deeper pairs.
Don't have time to investigate now.
OK. But this is certainly not enough information to debug.
The attached lyx file in previous mail didn't help you
2014-05-08 20:03 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org:
The attached lyx file in previous mail didn't help you reproduce? P
No. A 2.1 file would be better.
Jürgen
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-08 20:03 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org:
The attached lyx file in previous mail didn't help you reproduce? P
No. A 2.1 file would be better.
It is 2.1 file. Are you sure you didn't save the file meanwhile? P
2014-05-08 20:11 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda sa...@lyx.org:
It is 2.1 file. Are you sure you didn't save the file meanwhile? P
Oh, I see. I'll see if I find some time eventually.
Jürgen
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the
2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the
previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the
previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to
go that way)?
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 08:41:09AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org:
Don't see this with current branch.
Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Jürgen, it seems that there is a problem when inserting
Julio Rojas wrote:
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes
the document
more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases.
Fragile because it's
2014-05-08 20:42 GMT+02:00 Enrico Forestieri:
Jürgen, it seems that there is a problem when inserting an EndFrame layout.
Seemingly, these layouts are always enclosed in extra \end_layout and
\end_deeper tags. The attached patch against stable let me export Pavel's
example file to 2.0
On 05/08/2014 02:42 PM, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 08:41:09AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org:
Don't see this with current branch.
Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Jürgen,
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Julio Rojas wrote:
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes
the document
more fragile and more
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my
academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing
of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.
So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me if
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 03:13:53PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:
That said, it would be great if those of us who use Beamer extensively could
come up with some concrete ideas about how the UI should work. Jurgen did
the hard work. This should just be tweaking, though perhaps the absolutely
best
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schreef op 8-5-2014 19:18:
Le 08/05/14 19:14, Kornel Benko a écrit :
Assume that I want to draw abcde and bcd is selected. Then I will
draw the string twice:
Or three times?
a
bcd
e
That is what I want to avoid. In Arabic, for example, 'a' will may a
different shape
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 07.05.2014 um 17:16 schrieb Sam Birch sam.m.bi...@gmail.com:
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org
wrote:
Benjamin Piwowarski schreef op 7-5-2014 10:45:
This could be related to python -
Am 08.05.2014 um 22:59 schrieb Sam Birch sam.m.bi...@gmail.com:
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Stephan Witt st.w...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 07.05.2014 um 17:16 schrieb Sam Birch sam.m.bi...@gmail.com:
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn v...@lyx.org wrote:
Benjamin
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my
academic life in which everything is on the production branch, so testing
of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good
solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's
say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;)
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Thu, May 8,
2014-05-08 0:25 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda :
> could we delete other languages present in the beamer manual?
> I just tried to compile it on standard kubuntu install and get
> many 'unknown option ngerman. either you misspelled it...'
> from babel.
> I understand that it might be
2014-05-08 6:50 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda:
> Hi,
>
> sorry to crash the release party but after creating beamer file in 2.1.x
> and trying to load it in 2.0.x
>
> I still see bunch of strange errors:
> Text.cpp (1766): Handling unknown body token: `\end_layout'
> LyX: \end_deeper: depth is already
2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller :
> Don't see this with current branch.
>
Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Jürgen
>
> Jürgen
>
>
>
On 07. mai 2014 09:36, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Try to use a modern font like Dejavu Serif, or maybe Garamond on
windows. Do you see some kerning? For example, in the string "AV", the
bottom of the A should overlap with the top of the V. In such a case,
when a selection ends between the A
Am 08.05.2014 um 11:33 schrieb Helge Hafting :
> On 07. mai 2014 09:36, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
>
>> Try to use a modern font like Dejavu Serif, or maybe Garamond on
>> windows. Do you see some kerning? For example, in the string "AV", the
>> bottom of the A should
Am Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014 um 15:18:42, schrieb José Matos
> On Wednesday 07 May 2014 11:23:48 Kornel Benko wrote:
> > At least prints could be rewritten with
> > import sys
> > ...
> > sys.out.write(...)
> > or
> > output = open(...)
> >
On 08. mai 2014 12:22, Stephan Witt wrote:
Currently the drawing of LyX is not appropriate for high resolution displays.
I'm afraid your suggestion is not suitable to improve this.
I didn't know that. In that case, the "background only" selection seems
like a good alternative.
The trick
Hi to all,
I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is
somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral
students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to
everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations
necessary
Am Dienstag, 6. Mai 2014 um 21:47:59, schrieb Kornel Benko
> Am Dienstag, 6. Mai 2014 um 21:35:23, schrieb Enrico Forestieri
>
> > On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 08:44:18PM +0200, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > >
> > > I cannot get it to be shown in menu.
> >
> > Most
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
> We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that
> should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new
> criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here.
>
Let me stress, in case it
On 06/05/2014 11:06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
04/05/2014 22:14, Vincent van Ravesteijn:
When selecting the first character, I see two things:
1) the connection between characters is lost (in master this is not the
case)
2) the first character actually moves to the right on selection (while
Le 08/05/14 11:33, Helge Hafting a écrit :
This yields two bitmaps that can be combined to a bicolor string with no
changes to kerning or ligatures. Use part of one bitmap before the
cursor position, and the other bitmap after the cursor position.
Hopefully, the windowing system can do this with
Le 08/05/14 18:45, Abdelrazak Younes a écrit :
I don't read Arabic but my wife does. I'll see if I can find time over
the week-end to compile your branch.
Thanks, you're a sweetheart. I already know that cursor positioning is
wrong, but I am not sure yet how to make this work. If smething
On 05/08/2014 09:14 AM, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
commit 769b585176a78bc9a1380190e145aafdbe7d3a17
Author: Juergen Spitzmueller
Date: Thu May 8 15:14:44 2014 +0200
Beamer block conversion: consider ERT arguments with leading/trailing
blanks
Should also go to
Am Donnerstag, 8. Mai 2014 um 18:57:02, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> Le 08/05/14 11:33, Helge Hafting a écrit :
> > This yields two bitmaps that can be combined to a bicolor string with no
> > changes to kerning or ligatures. Use part of one bitmap before the
> > cursor
Le 08/05/14 19:14, Kornel Benko a écrit :
Assume that I want to draw "abcde" and "bcd" is selected. Then I will
draw the string twice:
Or three times?
a
bcd
e
That is what I want to avoid. In Arabic, for example, 'a' will may a
different shape depending on whether it is at the end of a word
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> 2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller :
>
> > Don't see this with current branch.
> >
>
> Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Looks like lyx2lyx won't preserve \begin_deeper \end_deeper pairs.
Don't have time to
2014-05-08 19:39 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda:
> Looks like lyx2lyx won't preserve \begin_deeper \end_deeper pairs.
> Don't have time to investigate now.
>
OK. But this is certainly not enough information to debug.
Jürgen
>
> Pavel
>
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> All feedback is received and noted.
I tried to fight new beamer ui yesterday and I noticed these points:
- suggested trick to create new frame alt+p+(shift)+return is not really
helpfull
is most cases. Typical situation - I want to create new frame after finishing
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> 2014-05-08 19:39 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda:
>
> > Looks like lyx2lyx won't preserve \begin_deeper \end_deeper pairs.
> > Don't have time to investigate now.
> >
>
> OK. But this is certainly not enough information to debug.
The attached lyx file in previous mail didn't
2014-05-08 20:03 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda :
> The attached lyx file in previous mail didn't help you reproduce? P
>
No. A 2.1 file would be better.
Jürgen
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> 2014-05-08 20:03 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda :
>
> > The attached lyx file in previous mail didn't help you reproduce? P
> >
>
> No. A 2.1 file would be better.
It is 2.1 file. Are you sure you didn't save the file meanwhile? P
2014-05-08 20:11 GMT+02:00 Pavel Sanda :
> It is 2.1 file. Are you sure you didn't save the file meanwhile? P
>
Oh, I see. I'll see if I find some time eventually.
Jürgen
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the
> 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the
previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still
>
> Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the
> previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to
> go that way)?
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 08:41:09AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> 2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller :
>
> > Don't see this with current branch.
> >
>
> Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Jürgen, it seems that there is a problem when
Julio Rojas wrote:
> Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
> for experienced users, though.
No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes
the document
more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases.
Fragile because it's
2014-05-08 20:42 GMT+02:00 Enrico Forestieri:
> Jürgen, it seems that there is a problem when inserting an EndFrame layout.
> Seemingly, these layouts are always enclosed in extra \end_layout and
> \end_deeper tags. The attached patch against stable let me export Pavel's
> example file to 2.0
On 05/08/2014 02:42 PM, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 08:41:09AM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-08 8:29 GMT+02:00 Jürgen Spitzmüller :
Don't see this with current branch.
Ah, you talk about opening in 2.0.x. Can you track it down further?
Jürgen,
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Julio Rojas wrote:
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes
the document
more fragile and more
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my
academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing
of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.
So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 03:13:53PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote:
>
> That said, it would be great if those of us who use Beamer extensively could
> come up with some concrete ideas about how the UI should work. Jurgen did
> the hard work. This should just be tweaking, though perhaps the absolutely
>
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes schreef op 8-5-2014 19:18:
Le 08/05/14 19:14, Kornel Benko a écrit :
Assume that I want to draw "abcde" and "bcd" is selected. Then I will
draw the string twice:
Or three times?
a
bcd
e
That is what I want to avoid. In Arabic, for example, 'a' will may a
different
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
> Am 07.05.2014 um 17:16 schrieb Sam Birch :
>
> > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn
> wrote:
> > Benjamin Piwowarski schreef op 7-5-2014 10:45:
> >> This could be
Am 08.05.2014 um 22:59 schrieb Sam Birch :
> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Stephan Witt wrote:
> Am 07.05.2014 um 17:16 schrieb Sam Birch :
>
> > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote:
> >
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:
> I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my
> academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing
> of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk
Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good
solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's
say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;)
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
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