> > I'm an attorney in Dallas, TX. I'm interested in developing a LyX
> > (KLyX) document class for legal forms in TX. Do you know of any
> > computer expert in TX who is worxing in LyX development? Would you
> > be interested in consulting on such a project? If yes, send me your
> > snailmail a
steffen wrote,
> Dear LyX developers,
> I am very much in need of an outline mode - as known in Word
> or first seen in ThinkTank on a Mac.
ThinkTank must have progressed massively since the 128k days, or noone
would be asking this :) It was noticably less useful than outlining
in word 1.05 .
jmarc asked,
> Are you talking about an \input-like capability (basic) or an
> \include-like one (which preserves references of non-processed files)?
> Only the later is impossible to nest in LaTeX.
I have no idea :)
What you get is the included lyx file inserted at the include point.
It is
> Giovanni> 3. why is inclusion from included files not possible? Is
> Giovanni> this a latex misfeature?
> It seems that there are deep technical reasons why this is not
> possible. Several LaTeX wizards tried and failed :(
But if a brute force solution will do it, the mailmerge patch is
capa
amir ameliorated,
> Still choking:
>
> Unexpected interpreter error -17.
> Error object:
> Unrecoverable error: stackunderflow in begin
> (f80)op(145:begin)0x465850Execution stack at 0x1003e3a8:
> 0x100496a8: 0x0f oper --F---e-- 0x 0x00456cb4 = %interp_exit
> 0x100496b0: 0x12 str --F-rxe--
amir added,
> > I've attached postscript this time; aside from the exdent, this is what
> > I think the appearance should be. Hmm, i don't know if it looks ok
> > without the parkave postscript font installed . . .
> It choked my ghostview and (SGI) showps.
odd, but me too . . . ghostview an
I hit ^C^C in the file selection menu in exmh, and instead of a "huh?",
it sent the underlying message . . .
resume.ps
th{\topmargin}{-.5in}
\renewcommand{\headrulewidth}{0pt}
\newsavebox{\addressbox}
\savebox{\addressbox}{\parbox{4in}{
\begin{center}
%\vspace{-.75in}
\resume Resume of \\
\richard Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. \\
\adress
180-D Heady Hall\\
Ames, IA 50010\\
515 / 294-8931
\end{center}
}}
\newsavebo
> Have you looked at Jean-Marc's cv.layout for hints/things to steal? In fact,
> you might even be able to get help from the author.
No, i didn't even realize it existed . . .
> I tried to use it for a
> while on my CV, and gave up for no good reason (except that I may not have
> easy access t
I haven't been logging out at night recently, and I've noticed that two
and three day old instances of lyx seem more prone to crash. I don't
have any dumps yet; i guess i can start an extra one to age. I also
just brought myself to within a couple of days of cvs; i'd been using
an early apr
jmarc jmentioned,
> Did you re-run configure?
Ack, no :) How do I know when this is necessary?
rick
--
I've updated twice, and still get
/usr/src/lyx-1_0_x/src/lyxfunc.C:2736: undefined reference to `ImportNoweb::run(void)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [lyx.mm] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/lyx-1_0_x/src'
make: *** [all] Error 1
--
> Mate> Should I set up the list to get rid off those? (These happen
> Mate> when people use netscape for mailing and they forget to turn off
> Mate> html)
> As long as it does not nuke files that people have attached to their
> messages... We *want* them to send patches, after all!
> And wha
jmarc jmentioned,
> >>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Richard> let me preface this with that I have an april 12 build . . .
> Richard> 1) I have had some success with floatflt, as long as i stick
> Richar
hmm, i mentioned earlier the problems with the last paragraphs in a
section. I now see that a floatflt in the *first* paragraph cannot
appear until the second. Perhaps there's an off-by-one issue?
rick
--
let me preface this with that I have an april 12 build . . .
1) I have had some success with floatflt, as long as i stick to
single-space. Things get *real* wierd with double.
2) A floatflt in the first paragraph of a section causes that paragraph
to be indented; i haven't found a workarou
while i'm at it, isn't the right margin supposed to come in some when
the environment depth is increased, such as sticking a list inside a
paragraph? or am i thinking of something else?
rick
--
jmarc jmentioned,
> Richard> Similarly, my uneumerated lists keep the double-spacking,
> Richard> which they would like single-spaced.
> We were supposed to implement paragraph-level spacing (since KLyX has
> it) but it never happened... What you can do for now is add
> \begin{singlespace}...\e
It seems to me that some months ago someone suggested a way to put two
figures in the same float, and give them separate figure numbers. Is
this possible, or am I fantasizing again? I suspect the latter, given
my (feeble) understanding of the way such things work.
--
I'm doing the final tuning on an article class paper, and a couple of
things have come up:
double-spacing is being applied to the address, and coauthors (who use
"secretary" and Word) would like it single-spaced.
Similarly, my uneumerated lists keep the double-spacking, which they
would like
> The problem is that the figure that is moved to the middle of the next
> page is not big enough to fill the whole page. This leaves gaps above
> and below.
> I experimented and found that a fairly small figure can be in this
> situation,
> that is, it won't fit on the current page because of ano
> Great! Hopefully, we can grow some more mirrors quickly. An American mirror
> would be nice, but I'm afraid I can't offer to host it. My linux box is a
> 486 50 MHz with a 14.4 modem :)
I was posting to ask if mine would be up to the task (10M subnet off a
T3 to the backbone), but then I rea
owen 'owled,
> > There is an intention that LyX will be able to use several toolkits,
> > among which GTK/Gnome. However, this work has not begun yet (what is
> > done is the beginning of toolkit independance in the code).
> would this theorhetically then make Lyx fully GPL?
which does open i
> "Richard E. Hawkins Esq." wrote:
> >
> > Parkave isn't part of the normal
> > latex distribution; i made it from the postscript fonts since it was
> How do you do that?
I really don't remember :)
it took a couple of stages, ps2pk, and something els
> > Ultimately, this is what I did with lyx since our hp printer refused
> > all directions and orientation information on envelopes. I can send
> > the lyx or latex versions if anyone wnts them.
> Please ;)
OK, there's two files here, the lyx and the latex it generates. I
really know nothin
allan added,
> We don't have a thesis template. The main reason for this is that there
> is no single standard -- every University seems to have its own ideas of
> how a thesis should be setup. You should be able to do most of your
> thesis using the book class.
> Somebody mentioned some tim
> I just received a message from a fellow french LyX user, about LyX and
> the X-Win32 X server for NT. From what he says, all that is needed to
> make it work is, in X-Util32, to
> - set 'Options / Backing store' to 'off'
> - disable 'Colors / PseudoColor supported in true color mode'
I didn'
> >>>>> "Rick" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Rick> after the third crash, i figured it wasn't a fluke, and tried
> Rick> again with gdb. Just before section 8.8.7, there are a pair of
> Rick> multiline equ
after the third crash, i figured it wasn't a fluke, and tried again
with gdb. Just before section 8.8.7, there are a pair of multiline
equations. Go into the first, use the arrow keys to get out and in
from of the first (starts with der_f2), and enter it & move. *splat*
I've included the en
It took a while to narrow this down, but I've found it (not that it
makes any sense to me).
I'm using the ulem.sty package. If I use a \uwave{} that contains a
lyx citation reference, assorted bad things happen. If a marginpar
tries to appear later in the page, it causes an "not in outer
p
Garst gabbed,
> Alice just asked me why LyX was not printing. It turns out that she had
> hit the space bar by accident, putting a space in the Printer box. Not
> easy to see, and obviously meaningless. Could SpaceLess remove leading
> spaces?
I think jmarc fixed this a month or so ago after I r
>3. conditional text (might be treated in a very similar way like
> named character styles; except for the fact, that their visibilty
> (or appearance in exported files) may be switched on/off)
You can have this right now with the mm patch. It's not stable enough
for the main release, and
ok, having absorbed the ps information, I've updated the letterhead.
The special code for the first place works, but I have a spaceing
prolem on later pages
having previously defined \vheadadjust at -.75, I define
\lhead{
\vspace{\vheadadjust}
\hspace{\adjhmindent}
\underli
> Yes, and I wrote a very nice discussion in there about why this might
> be useful :)
ahh. My lyxrc is probably more than a little out of date.It's
probably still based on the first time the .lyx appeared . . .
ANd now, after david's comments, I've printed the letterhead that I
toiled ov
jmarc remarced,
> Did you set '\print_adapt_output true'? Note that the options used
> when printing and exporting to PS are different, since in the first
> case we cannot be sure that we print to a PS printer (think HP).
I doubt it, since I've never heard of it :)
I assume htis goes in lyxrc?
asger aspirated,
> > In norwegian it is spelled "slalåm"
> I prefer "slålam". That's a word that means to beat someone
> until they can't move.
and has an uncanny resemlence to, "sue 'em," which done properly, has
the same effect :)
--
asger added,
> On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
>
> > > I have seen similar misalignments for the last few versions of LyX with
> > > the same fix -- use gv. hp deskjet-680c, my pages start about 1/3 of
> > > the way down the paper. I made
> I have seen similar misalignments for the last few versions of LyX with
> the same fix -- use gv. hp deskjet-680c, my pages start about 1/3 of
> the way down the paper. I made a report at the time, and do not remember
> exactly when it started. But, I had also moved to teTeX-.9
I wish I'd kno
I called tech support on our printer that is vertically misaligning,
after it printed my page numbers past the top of the page. I used a2ps
to print with borders to show him how it should look, then printed from
gv so that I wouldn't have to print the entire thing for a single page.
Which is
garst gabbed,
> > p.s. Is there enouh interest that I should fiddle with bindings and a
> > style for this, or am I unusual in using this?
> Unfortunately, I do not thing lawyers are unusual :) laws.sty?
At the moment, though, I"m not writing law, but circulating dissertaion
drafts (dynamic p
lars left,
> See if you have the changebar latex package, perhaps you can use that.
If I'm reading the code right, this would be rough to use, and doesn't
quite label where things happen
> to get crossed out, strike through, wavy underline check out the
> ulem.sty package.
with the normalem
I need a way to indicate removed/old text, while still printing it, as
I circulate texts. The most obvious way (to me at least) is a
horizontal bar midway through the text. I can't seem to find the
pieces to define this as a style, though. On the other hand, i can't
think of anything to lo
asger added,
> Finally, one comment to your code: Please add a section that explains which
> License the script is distributed under. If it should be integrated into LyX
> at some point, it should be either public domain or GPL.
Err, modified GPL :) I don't think we can use true GPL . . .
--
amir added,
Amir> OK. I created patches from John's new Intro & Tutorial. The
Amir> Intro is exactly what he sent. For the Tutorial, I merged in his
Amir> new stuff with the current version. The only change I made was
Amir> removing a bit (but just a bit) of the M$-bashing.
Bashing? "muttonhea
jmarc replied,
> >>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Richard> thanks, but no, that changes it everywhere. I want to have
> Richard> blocks of standards, then another block of standard. Roughly
> Richard&
> disregard the previous email. Unless you like star wars. It was supposed to
> go to stefan, who missed the boat again.
The boat, or the shuttle? :)
Maybe he went to the dark side. He could even be using Word this very
minute . . .
rick, whose 7 year old daughter is anxiously awaiting the
jmarc jreplied,
> >>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Richard> I've gone throught the assorted documentation again, and
> Richard> can't find an answer to my latest question: how do I skip
> Richard&
I've gone throught the assorted documentation again, and can't find an
answer to my latest question: how do I skip space between *groups* of
paragraphs of Standard? I could do it with ERT, but is there something
I'm missing here?
rick
--
jmarc mentioned,
> Richard> a) I need to figure out how to query a box for it's height &
> Richard> width. Until then, this is an ugy hack.
> Have a look at \settowidth, \settoheight, \settodepth.
As near as I can tell, those won't get me where I need to go. I need
to use thies with \setleng
After wasitng half a day, this letterhead works. It's almost ready to
be included, but needs a couple of details.
a) I need to figure out how to query a box for it's height & width.
Until then, this is an ugy hack.
b) The printer I used is vertically misaligned, so this prints low on
the pa
Alan added,
>The one sentence that will be quoted should include the words:
> Literate Programming
Just off the cuff
The LyX Development team is pleased to announce LyX 1.0.1, a
full-featured word and document processor, which exports latex for
printing. Additionally, latex may be us
Just a stray thought.
Should we make contact with slashdot *before* the actual release, to
try and get an actual announcement instead of being lumped in with the
"quickies" as a "latex front end" again?
Also, they're off in san jose for the linux conference at the moment
rick
--
I've done everything I can think of, from playing wiht the document
setup, to \vspacing, but I can't get rid of the 1" margin at the top of
the page. My letterhead should be printing as close as the printer can
handle to the top, but I can't override latex.
rick
--
I think this is really a latex issue, but figuring out how to deal with
it should be somewhere on the horizon.
The letter class is, umm, more than slightly .
I don't mean the manner of format, and the odd order, but the way it
chooses pagebreaks.
My standard letter ends up leaving a single
dit it myself . . .)
jmarc jmentioned,
>>>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Richard> jmarc jmentioned,
>>> Could you repost the files encoded in base64 or whatever? They did
>>> not arrive correctly th
I think this is really a latex issue, but figuring out how to deal with
it should be somewhere on the horizon.
The letter class is, umm, more than slightly .
I don't mean the manner of format, and the odd order, but the way it
chooses pagebreaks.
My standard letter ends up leaving a single l
jmarc jmentioned,
> Could you repost the files encoded in base64 or whatever? They did not
> arrive correctly there.
base64? Argghhh! evil, evil, format. I went through a nightmare
trying to deal with that illbegotten spawn of a creature of the nether
worlds on digital unix. It's not from
I configured with --program-suffix=.dev, but i still get a binary in
src which is just plain lyx. Will this be changed on make install, or
is something wrong?
--
> >>
> REH> cd . && aclocal aclocal: configure.in: 52: obsolete macro
> REH> `AM_PROG_INSTALL' gmake: *** [aclocal.m4] Error 1
> >>
> REH> And now, cleaned up, configure is bombing over relyx:
> >>
> REH> running /bin/sh config/configure --program-suffix=3D.dev
> REH> --cache-file
Having seen this now in both freebsd and linux, I'm wondering: how is
options->screenfonts supposed to behave? Changing fonts (times=>
utopia) doesn't seem to take effect in the same edititng session, and
both changes to this entry and magnification are not kept for the next
session. Should
I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that the promotion/demotion
functions of heading levels suddenly came to me. SHould I start
poking at these when I'm hiding from my dissertation, or is someone
already working on these?
rick
I suppose this is more a tex question than a lyx, but it may lead to a
useful addition.
I need to include chunks of code, and output from programs, quite
often. What is the best whey to do this? Should I be blasting them
into postscript, and using floats? Setting font to typewriter? using
ta
As I'm trying to deal with wrapping text again, i pulled out the user
guide to read up on floats again.
Several of the pictures are set to "dispaly as grey scale." This
causes a render error on my machine, though i don't know about others.
Setting them to monogrhome fixes things.
rick
lars replied,
> Yes, but when compiling devel sources you are expected to have a devel
> setup. autoconf, automake, gettext ...
hmm, i've added gettext, and this persists. I notice a line during
configure of
sed: can't read ./Makefile.in: No such file or directory
Also, there seems to be
jmarc asked,
> >>>>> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Richard> I get
>
> Richard> cd . && rm -f stamp-cat-id && echo timestamp > stamp-cat-id
> Richard> file=./`echo da | sed
I get
cd . && rm -f stamp-cat-id && echo timestamp > stamp-cat-id
file=./`echo da | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
&& rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH no -o $file da.po
/bin/sh: no: command not found
make[1]: *** [da.gmo] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/lyx/po'
make: *** [all-recursive]
asger aspirated,
> 2) Portability. LyX should not be X11 only.
Although there's a certain mean streak in me (hey, i'm a lawyer) that
would love to see a fundamental incompatibility with windows :)
"Sorry, your progam loader sucks. Here's a nickel, kid . . . " :)
> 3) Fun. It was fun to
I found this by accident . . .
When a space, rather than nothing, is in the printer name field, the
postscritp file name from the other field is used as the printer name.
rick
--
alejandro added,
> I'll do it in my next patch. Fixed bugs: the crash after tab reported by
> Rick, your report about bad undo after pull out, the eqnarray collapsing,
> and some other small problems.
ooh, the first & third were two of the biggest problems in my life! :)
--
"Lyx does not use any dates other than the internal date structure used
by the host system. As such, LyX does not have a year 2000 problem,
although it may be vulnerable to the year 2038 problem on thirty-two
bit operating systems."
ob muttonheads:
"This does not mean that the reader of you
In article <79sbm8$8su$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Feb 5, 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Martin) wrote:
>
>>> 3) There is no limitation on combining LyX source code with code
>>> subject to any other license, pro
john jabbered,
> On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 10:40:23AM -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> > i've bcc'd this list a copy of the reply I posted.
> > Much better to confront this before the flames start.
> Yes, good to reserve the m-word until we need it. :)
ye
jmarc jwrote,
> The route we are trying to take is to have a tk-independent LyX core,
> and let people develop native frontends on top of that. It is clear
> that KDE people, for example, would not want something which looks
> like a KDE app, but something which *is* a KDE app.
also, it strikes
If it isn't, ignore me :)
I just had another multi-line equation collapse, and then I somehow put
a sqrt into it while it was offscreen. The squareroot followed a
subscript on a letter with an narrow overbar. When I backspaced to kill
the sqrt, the subscript on the variable hopped up to the
> Perhaps you have two different TeX distr installed? Perhaps you have
> permission problems on the pk dir (it is usually world writable)?
>
> What is your system?
> What kind of TeX distr you have?
it's debian slink (frozen), but it used to be hamm.
It's only got whatever debian installs as t
I don't even know where to look for this, or all of what it means.
Any time I print *anything* i now get oodles of messages such as
kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode ljfour --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 cmr10
mktexpk: /var/spool/texmf/pk/ljfour/public/cm/cmr10.600pk already exists.
/usr/
i've bcc'd this list a copy of the reply I posted.
Much better to confront this before the flames start.
rick
--
I've toyed with this idea, too, but not that ambitiously.
I've thought more along the lines of "paste last line," which i used to
do with OS macros in word 4.0 and 5.1, and "save this line as a diff to
the last line," so changes would be inheritted.
In terms of linking, it might be possible t
Warning
Could not process message with given Content-Type:
multipart/mixed ;boundary="==_Exmh_-6295571270"
roland rolled,
> That's what I was saying,
> if you want the /. dudes attention you'll have to go over the license.
> But as Rick is the only one who has a clue about that, I would ask him.
> He's the guy who they are going to flame the living crap out of...
They're not even in my league :) Y
I took about a pages worth from a long file, pasted it into a new file,
and one of the multiline equations collapsed on paste (not at either
end). I tried to move the cursor into it, and
Starting program: /usr/src/lyx-1_0_x/src/lyx
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x810
I think this is similar to some i've had before, maybe even the one i'm
looking for.
Create a new file, then M-m d, C-Enter to get a two line equation.
Put something in every entry. (a,b,c,d,e,f)
Return to the middle cell of the second row, delete the contents.
type \geq
The latex isn't pro
asger added,
> > Since I understand that a bug in the Insert->URL command is likely to mean
> > an update sooner rather than later, perhaps you could take the opportunity
> > to sort out the COPYING problem too. Personally, I'd much rather that LyX
> > was simply released under the GPL, but if
In addition to moving the GPL, we need the following paragraph added,
and the current 5) renamed 6) :
5) The right to publish revised versions of the license in paragraph
9. of the GPL is held by the LyX development team.
Lacking this could lead to disastrous interpretations: GNU has the
paul seelig wrote,
> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Any hope it did not use XForms?
> No, not at all unfortunately. Until now there is no other front end
> than for XForms and the Qt version is severely outdated. I'd love to
> see a gtk+ based front end for LyX but i'm not aw
I've looked at COPYING in cvs, and there's one minor detail:
The GPL license refuses permission to distribute a modified version of
the *license*. Currently, it's in copying.
I'd suggest a directory called "licenseRefs" or some such, and to put
the GPL there, with a pointer in copying. The
weiss wondered,
> We should *really* go through the CREDITS file, contact all therein,
> and get them to consent to giving the LyX Team official permission to
> make changes to copyright as wee deem necessary, as long as such
> changes are not for commercial gain. Rich, could you ponder a
> par
alan averred,
> Can someone please answer a very important question for me.
> Has anybody seen any emails posted by me in the last two weeks?
not that i can recall . . .
--
alejandro added,
> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> if the fail is reproducible I only need the steps to reproduce it and I
> would run gdb.
i wish it were reproducible. I could take Groucho's solution . . .
> > Will this give me a file? or should
alejandro aspirated,
> On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> > The bottom line is that right now, for multiline matrix equations, this
> > thing is highly unstable.
> Yes, please use gdb, give more details about your system, and describe
> a sequence of s
As the floating eye used to say in "Hard Time on Planet Earth,"
"Negative outcome. Not good."
The cvs version of 1.0 is SIGSEGV'ing me right and left (at least as of
yesterdays; i just compiled today's).
Particularly, it's going nuts within multiline equations on the last
and second to las
> I commited a bunch of changes to lyx-cvs 1_0_x:
> - Fixed positioning of Math Panel pop-ups. (Asger)
> An old-timer -- the problem was that the bitmaps could pop out of the screen.
thanks. The janitors were complaining, because they make such a mess
on the floor when that happens :)
--
john claimed,
> On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 05:22:43PM -0500, Larry S. Marso wrote:
> > *** // <- WAIT! WE DON'T SAY THAT LYX REQUIRES LATEX, OR ***
> > ***SUGGEST TETEX AND OTHER DISTRIBUTIONS KNOWN TO ***
> > ***WORK WITH LYX. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!
john jabbed,
> On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 03:53:26PM -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> > Although I'd prefer to replace the "legal impossibility" with "only a
> > complete muttonhead could conclude", but I suppose that would be
> > impolitic
> After I finally grasped when LaTeX uses what sort of spacing after a
> ".", the algorithm struck me as odd. After all, it's not hard to look
> at the next non-whitespace character after a "." and see if it's
> uppercase. If so, that "." ends a sentence. If not, it's an
> abbreviation.
Whi
I wasn't able to give a good answer when i asked this, so here it is.
The question came from a reasonably experienced latexie.
He needs to change the spacing on the first page to use letterhead. I
suggested vspace, but :
***
Yes, I am. The \vspace worked, but I had to put it in a My Address
I am finding if that, from my home directory, I launch lyx with a file
in a subdirectory (eg, "lyx www/research/research.lyx"), I can export
as latex and dvi, but not postscript. If I export postscript, I get
something to the effect of
This is dvips(k) 5.82 Copyright 1998 Radical Eye Softw
I needed the second page of my letterhead for a couple of documents;
just
Law Offices of
Richard E. Hawkins
at the top of the page.
It turned out that I needed to keep the letter class for my header to
work. But I discovered something odd: the "Send to" line is
persistent, even when
larry labored,
> On Fri, Jan 29, 1999 at 09:30:40AM -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> > Wait a minute, *two* kirk in the transporter episodes? There was the
> > good kirk/bad kirk ("Wolf in the Fold"?) where he gets split in two.
> > What was the other
It just occurred to me . . . we could test how well the server
survivies the slashdot effect by posting there that the license has
been clarified as non-GPL . . .
rick, who isn't sure that this is a good idea
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