Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
11/02/2014 15:15, José Matos: On Tuesday 11 February 2014 10:34:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: We could add to LyX a way to interact with the miktex package manager and therefore install/update packages. I am not sure how, though. Note that this issue is not exclusive of miktex, in Fedora (and

Re: Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 11 February 2014 10:34:00 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > We could add to LyX a way to interact with the miktex package manager > and therefore install/update packages. I am not sure how, though. > > JMarc Note that this issue is not exclusive of miktex, in Fedora (and other linux dist

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 11/02/14 11:01, Vincent van Ravesteijn a écrit : > >> At least we can use the SDK also to query whether a package is installed. > > > If we use a COM interface, does this mean that we shall link LyX against > some Miktex dll? This

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 11/02/14 11:01, Vincent van Ravesteijn a écrit : At least we can use the SDK also to query whether a package is installed. If we use a COM interface, does this mean that we shall link LyX against some Miktex dll? This would not e very pleasant IMO. JMarc

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 11/02/14 10:06, Vincent van Ravesteijn a écrit : > >> If the installer would offer the possibility to skip installing all >> needed LaTeX packages (because it takes very long time), then the >> Test* macros will trigger the on-the-

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 11/02/14 10:06, Vincent van Ravesteijn a écrit : If the installer would offer the possibility to skip installing all needed LaTeX packages (because it takes very long time), then the Test* macros will trigger the on-the-fly install anyway. So, how can we avoid that everyone has to wait very lo

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 10/02/14 23:50, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : > >>> Why don't you bundle the needed packages with the installer then ? >> >> >> You know that this impossible. The packages change so often, it would be >> a nightmare to keep the up to date all

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 10/02/14 23:50, Uwe Stöhr a écrit : Why don't you bundle the needed packages with the installer then ? You know that this impossible. The packages change so often, it would be a nightmare to keep the up to date all the time. Moreover what about packaging bugs (for example sometimes files are

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-10 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 04.02.2014 16:23, schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn: And, don't forget that I added cbgreek as convenience for Windows users so it should be possible to remove it because of problems wit Windows. Why don't you bundle the needed packages with the installer then ? You know that this impossible

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-05 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2014-02-03, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Here is a simple plan: in chkconfig.ltx add the line >>\InputIfFileExists{instpkg.ltx}{\message{^^J\prefix reading file >> intpkg.ltx}}{} >> and then move all the useless tests (some grepping should allow to make >> the

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-04 Thread Vincent van Ravesteijn
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 30.01.2014 11:40, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > 30/01/2014 09:16, Jürgen Spitzmüller: >> >>> I do not like the fact that the criterium for adding things to chkconfig >>> should >>> be Windows installation. In the long term, you should se

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Here is a simple plan: in chkconfig.ltx add the line >\InputIfFileExists{instpkg.ltx}{\message{^^J\prefix reading file > intpkg.ltx}}{} > and then move all the useless tests (some grepping should allow to make > the list) to a new file instpkg.ltx which is not in

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-03 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
03/02/2014 09:29, Jürgen Spitzmüller: Uwe Stöhr wrote: And, don't forget that I added cbgreek as convenience for Windows users so it should be possible to remove it because of problems wit Windows. Uwe, this is exactly our concern. chkconfig.ltx should not be misused for convenience of Window

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-03 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > And, don't forget that I added cbgreek as convenience for Windows users so > it should be possible to remove it because of problems wit Windows. Uwe, this is exactly our concern. chkconfig.ltx should not be misused for convenience of Windows (or any other single OS's) users, a

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-02-02 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Am 30.01.2014 11:40, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: 30/01/2014 09:16, Jürgen Spitzmüller: I do not like the fact that the criterium for adding things to chkconfig should be Windows installation. In the long term, you should set up something for this which does not affect other OSes. Agreed. con

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-01-31 Thread Richard Heck
On 01/30/2014 04:31 PM, Guenter Milde wrote: On 2014-01-30, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: 30/01/2014 09:16, Jürgen Spitzmüller: I do not like the fact that the criterium for adding things to chkconfig should be Windows installation. In the long term, you should set up something for this which do

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-01-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2014-01-30, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > 30/01/2014 09:16, Jürgen Spitzmüller: >> I do not like the fact that the criterium for adding things to >> chkconfig should be Windows installation. In the long term, you should >> set up something for this which does not affect other OSes. > Agreed. co

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-01-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
30/01/2014 09:16, Jürgen Spitzmüller: I do not like the fact that the criterium for adding things to chkconfig should be Windows installation. In the long term, you should set up something for this which does not affect other OSes. Agreed. configure.py take 20 seconds on my iMac, just to work a

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-01-30 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2014-01-29, Uwe Stöhr wrote: ... > after Jürgen finished the font handling for LyX 2.1 I added all > supported font packages to chkconfig.ltx in order to install > automatically all possible fonts on Windows. Am I right to suppose, that chkconfig.ltx is originally intended for *checking* the

Re: [patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-01-30 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > After fiddling with this issue for 2 months now, I would like to skip > cbgreek form chkconfig.ltx. (see attached patch) This solves all > installation problems for me. Users who might need these Greek font have to > install the fonts on demand via MiKTeX's package manager. If t

[patch] disable automatic installation of cbgreek package on installation time

2014-01-29 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Hy LyXers, after Jürgen finished the font handling for LyX 2.1 I added all supported font packages to chkconfig.ltx in order to install automatically all possible fonts on Windows. The idea was to provide full-featured LyX so that you can go offline after the installation of LyX and work withou