Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Dr. Richard E. Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | It occurs to me that in the cases where footnote numbering would be | useful, numbering the footnotes that exist on loading the document would | be sufficient--these are the only ones that can already be on paper or | in someone else's hands .

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-22 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Angus Leeming wrote: | | > Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: | | > * You would like some on-screen way to differentiate between | > different footnotes. | | Correct. | | > * Lars thinks that you really need footnote labels. | | False. I do n

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-22 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:49:44PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > I have also created bug number 838 and added your patch as > attachment. Good. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jefferson)

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 10:15:52PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > > This is now bug 409 as it was a dupe (as you know ...) > > Sorry, I searched for footnote and footnotes and did not find my old bug, You need to change the default search setting to include closed bugs too, it's quite

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
John Levon wrote: > This is now bug 409 as it was a dupe (as you know ...) Sorry, I searched for footnote and footnotes and did not find my old bug, nor did I get sent the additional responses.

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 06:11:59PM +0100, Edwin Leuven wrote: > even if the number of footnotes is not overwhelming, going from paper > corrections ("can you change this in footnote 6") to the right place in lyx > is a bit of a hassle... It occurs to me that in the cases where footnote numberin

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread John Levon
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 09:49:44PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > I will :-) I have also created bug number 838 and added your patch as > attachment. This is now bug 409 as it was a dupe (as you know ...) regards john -- "When you start off by telling those who disagree with you that

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 06:20:09PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: >> [...] > > Here we go. Very quick&dirty and only barely functional (it takes a while > after an insertion until the change has "propagated") Thanks, I will try it out immediately :-) Great stuff, I

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Angus Leeming wrote: > Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > * You would like some on-screen way to differentiate between > different footnotes. Correct. > * Lars thinks that you really need footnote labels. False. I do not need these labels. > * André and myself both think that preview-latex is

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 06:20:09PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > [...] Here we go. Very quick&dirty and only barely functional (it takes a while after an insertion until the change has "propagated") Moritz could apply this in hid local tree and remind us during the 1.4 cycle to discuss

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 17:20, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > The argument goes like this: > > "Mr. Moeller-Herrmann, in footnote 477, your argument is wrong and you have > to cite XYZ". > > At the moment I have to compile the lyx document, check the dvi, find > footnote 477, look for and reme

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > I am sick of getting this argument against implementing a fscking > simple footnote counter in lyx. So after reading your very long > answer, I can only conclude, that lyx does not and will never have a > useful implementation to see the footnote number, either usin

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
José Matos wrote: > On Tuesday 21 January 2003 16:57, Andre Poenitz wrote: >> > What would you like to see the footnote number or mark? What benefits >> > does it give? >> One can e.g. make the (sequential!) numbers appear in print as well. >> Going back from the proofs to the .lyx would be easy

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Edwin Leuven wrote: > even if the number of footnotes is not overwhelming, going from paper > corrections ("can you change this in footnote 6") to the right place in lyx > is a bit of a hassle... One way to solve this problem is to implement "inverse search" http://bugzilla.

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:51:16PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> | If you had ever tried editing a document with more than 1000 footnotes >> | all of them labeled as "[foot]" in lyx, because lyx is unable to show >> | the footnote number, you would see why it is helpf

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 16:57, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > What would you like to see the footnote number or mark? What benefits > > does it give? > > Actually I accept his argument that a sequential numbering of all footnotes > might be some navigation help if the number of footnotes gets large. >

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Edwin Leuven
even if the number of footnotes is not overwhelming, going from paper corrections ("can you change this in footnote 6") to the right place in lyx is a bit of a hassle... Ed.

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:51:16PM +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > | If you had ever tried editing a document with more than 1000 footnotes all > | of them labeled as "[foot]" in lyx, because lyx is unable to show the > | footnote number, you would see why it is helpful to see the footnote ma

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:50:05PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > >> How hard would it be to learn enough C++ and lyx to add this feature > >> myself? > > > > Two months. > > How long would it take you Depends on the end of the feature freeze. Probably less than two months. > and how m

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Andre Poenitz wrote: | | > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:42:13PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: | >> How hard would it be to learn enough C++ and lyx to add this feature | >> myself? | > | > Two months. | | How long would it take you and

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > LyX uses a little box saying "foot" (possibly translated) to show a | > footnote. Would you write better documents if LyX displayed some | > symbol or other? I doubt it. Sure, we /could/ do it, at the cost of | > complicating the code (read i

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:42:13PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: >> How hard would it be to learn enough C++ and lyx to add this feature >> myself? > > Two months. How long would it take you and how much money would you (or anyone else on this list) want for it?

Re: footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 05:42:13PM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > How hard would it be to learn enough C++ and lyx to add this feature myself? Two months. Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one. (T. Jeffer

footnote numbering [was: Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3]

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Angus Leeming wrote: > Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: >> It seems as if you can set \usepackage[footnotes]{preview} in Emacs >> and have a preview of the footnote mark. [...] > LyX uses a little box saying "foot" (possibly translated) to show a > footnote. Would you write better documents if Ly

Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3

2003-01-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jan 21, 2003 at 04:12:59PM +, Angus Leeming wrote: > It's just that, having done so, I'm not sure what /real/ benefit these > previews provide for most people. Welcome to the club ;-) Andre' -- Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they

Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3

2003-01-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > Angus Leeming wrote: > >> Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > >>> I am now using lyx-1.3-pre2 for my dissertation and it looks great >>> so far. Is there any possibility to turn on preview-latex for the >>> footnotes? It seems to work in Emacs. > >> I don't see a p

Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Angus Leeming wrote: > Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: >> I am now using lyx-1.3-pre2 for my dissertation and it looks great >> so far. Is there any possibility to turn on preview-latex for the >> footnotes? It seems to work in Emacs. > I don't see a problem. Attached is a screenshot. Works both

Re: footnotes preview in lyx-1.3

2003-01-21 Thread Angus Leeming
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > Hi, > > I am now using lyx-1.3-pre2 for my dissertation and it looks great > so far. Is there any possibility to turn on preview-latex for the > footnotes? It seems to work in Emacs. > > Thanks, I don't see a problem. Attached is a screenshot. Works both when t

footnotes preview in lyx-1.3

2003-01-21 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Hi, I am now using lyx-1.3-pre2 for my dissertation and it looks great so far. Is there any possibility to turn on preview-latex for the footnotes? It seems to work in Emacs. Thanks, -- Moritz Moeller-Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wiss. Mitarbeiter, IMGB La loi, dans un grand souci d'égal