Re: kde frontend

2006-06-03 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 11:48 schrieb Charles de Miramon: Why don't you post a question in kde-core-devel ? I might do so when I know what I want to ask :-) I think Trolltech is folding back in Qt4 some functionalities of KDELibs. Maybe, the light KDE port will be easier with Qt4 and

Re: kde frontend

2006-06-03 Thread Georg Baum
Am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 11:48 schrieb Charles de Miramon: > Why don't you post a question in kde-core-devel ? I might do so when I know what I want to ask :-) > I think Trolltech is > folding back in Qt4 some functionalities of KDELibs. Maybe, the light KDE > port will be easier with Qt4

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-30 Thread Charles de Miramon
Georg Baum wrote: I don't know. I never heard of it. I searched a bit and found out that it is supposed to be in SuSE 9.3 and 10.0 which I use at work, but I did not notice anything. Certainly the kde file dialog is not used by qt apps. Georg Why don't you post a question in

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-30 Thread Charles de Miramon
Georg Baum wrote: > > I don't know. I never heard of it. I searched a bit and found out that it > is supposed to be in SuSE 9.3 and 10.0 which I use at work, but I did not > notice anything. Certainly the kde file dialog is not used by qt apps. > > > Georg Why don't you post a question in

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did that. Two things for a start: - it would be good if --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend automatically. Yes and at runtime, the binary would switch to Qt only is KDE is not detected. Is this possible? Georg I guess so, but it

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-29 Thread Georg Baum
Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006 18:00 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Georg I guess so, but it would involve dynamic loading of libs at run Georg time, and before anything happens the binary must decide Georg whether it wants a QApplication or KApplication.

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Georg == Georg Baum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Georg I don't know. I never heard of it. I searched a bit and found Georg out that it is supposed to be in SuSE 9.3 and 10.0 which I use Georg at work, but I did not notice anything. Certainly the kde file Georg dialog is not used by qt apps. It

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > I did that. Two things for a start: > - it would be good if >> --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend > automatically. >> >> Yes and at runtime, the binary would switch to Qt only is KDE is >> not detected. Is this possible?

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-29 Thread Georg Baum
Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006 18:00 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Georg> I guess so, but it would involve dynamic loading of libs at run > Georg> time, and before anything happens the binary must decide > Georg> whether it wants a QApplication

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> I don't know. I never heard of it. I searched a bit and found Georg> out that it is supposed to be in SuSE 9.3 and 10.0 which I use Georg> at work, but I did not notice anything. Certainly the kde file Georg> dialog is not used by qt

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Georg Baum wrote: Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:05 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller: I did that. Two things for a start: - it would be good if --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend automatically. Why? It does not need it. Although the sources are shared, the object files are not.

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Charles de Miramon
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: . I'd second that. Me too. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Georg Baum
it. Although the sources are shared, the object files are not. compiling --with-frontend=kde fails from a fresh tree for me, I needed --with-frontend=qt kde I forgot to change one include path. Compiling only the kde frontend works now for me. Georg Index: src/frontends/kde3/moc/Makefile.am

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:11 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: I'd second that. Me too but shouldn't be an automatic detection? Currently I simply implemented an additional frontend name kde. It is like any other frontend, the only difference is

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Georg Baum wrote: > Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:05 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller: > > I did that. Two things for a start: > > - it would be good if --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend > > automatically. > > Why? It does not need it. Although the sources are shared, the object > files are

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Charles de Miramon
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: . > > I'd second that. > Me too. Cheers, Charles -- http://www.kde-france.org

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Georg Baum
> > automatically. > > > > Why? It does not need it. Although the sources are shared, the object > > files are not. > > compiling --with-frontend=kde fails from a fresh tree for me, I needed > --with-frontend="qt kde" I forgot to change one include pa

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-28 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Georg Baum wrote: Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:11 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: I'd second that. Me too but shouldn't be an automatic detection? Currently I simply implemented an additional frontend name kde. It is like any other frontend, the only difference is

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Georg Baum wrote: I have created an experimental kde branch at svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/baum/kde. It can be configured in parallel to the other frontends. It is pretty lightweight (no copied source files, therefore it has some ugly ifdefs). The only difference to the

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: I'd second that. Me too but shouldn't be an automatic detection? I did that. Two things for a start: - it would be good if --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend automatically. Yes and at runtime, the binary would switch to Qt only is KDE is not

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:05 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller: I did that. Two things for a start: - it would be good if --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend automatically. Why? It does not need it. Although the sources are shared, the object files are not. - in the kfiledialog, the

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:11 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: I'd second that. Me too but shouldn't be an automatic detection? Currently I simply implemented an additional frontend name kde. It is like any other frontend, the only difference is that the sources

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Georg Baum wrote: > I have created an experimental kde branch at > svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/baum/kde. It can be > configured in parallel to the other frontends. It is pretty lightweight (no > copied source files, therefore it has some ugly ifdefs). The only > difference to

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: I'd second that. Me too but shouldn't be an automatic detection? I did that. Two things for a start: - it would be good if --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend automatically. Yes and at runtime, the binary would switch to Qt only is KDE is not

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:05 schrieb Juergen Spitzmueller: > I did that. Two things for a start: > - it would be good if --with-frontend=kde compiled the qt frontend > automatically. Why? It does not need it. Although the sources are shared, the object files are not. > - in the kfiledialog,

Re: kde frontend

2006-05-27 Thread Georg Baum
Am Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 15:11 schrieb Abdelrazak Younes: > Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > > > I'd second that. > > Me too but shouldn't be an automatic detection? Currently I simply implemented an additional frontend name kde. It is like any other frontend, the only difference is that the

kde frontend

2006-05-26 Thread Georg Baum
I have created an experimental kde branch at svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/baum/kde. It can be configured in parallel to the other frontends. It is pretty lightweight (no copied source files, therefore it has some ugly ifdefs). The only difference to the qt3 frontend so far is

kde frontend

2006-05-26 Thread Georg Baum
I have created an experimental kde branch at svn://svn.lyx.org/lyx/lyx-devel/branches/personal/baum/kde. It can be configured in parallel to the other frontends. It is pretty lightweight (no copied source files, therefore it has some ugly ifdefs). The only difference to the qt3 frontend so far is

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Yves == Yves Bastide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yves About autoconf 2.50: I've prepared a patch with compatibility Yves macros, but it needs to be cleaned up a bit. Great! JMarc

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Yves == Yves Bastide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Yves About autoconf 2.50: I've prepared a patch with compatibility | Yves macros, but it needs to be cleaned up a bit. | | Great! One thing thoug... do we really want them? For users

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars For users compiling the configure script delivered with LyX is Lars used, developers should all use the same tools. _Or_ is this a Lars patch/addon to autoconf 2.50 to make it backwards compatible Lars with 2.13? In the latest KDE

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars For users compiling the configure script delivered with LyX is | Lars used, developers should all use the same tools. _Or_ is this a | Lars patch/addon to autoconf 2.50 to make it

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars I am sure it is possible, the question is if we want it. Yes, if this means rewriting ugly code to make it more reasonable. I do not know the specifics, however. JMarc

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread John Levon
do not really care about the kde frontend, but are we sure nobody will miss it? Is kde 1.x really dead? it doesn't compile and is incomplete. Unless someone volunteers to see it through to completion, it is pointless having it in the codebase. kde 1.x may not be dead yet, but the number

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Yves" == Yves Bastide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yves> About autoconf 2.50: I've prepared a patch with compatibility Yves> macros, but it needs to be cleaned up a bit. Great! JMarc

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Yves" == Yves Bastide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Yves> About autoconf 2.50: I've prepared a patch with compatibility | Yves> macros, but it needs to be cleaned up a bit. | | Great! One thing thoug... do we really want them? For

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> For users compiling the configure script delivered with LyX is Lars> used, developers should all use the same tools. _Or_ is this a Lars> patch/addon to autoconf 2.50 to make it backwards compatible Lars> with 2.13? In the

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> For users compiling the configure script delivered with LyX is | Lars> used, developers should all use the same tools. _Or_ is this a | Lars> patch/addon to autoconf 2.50

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I am sure it is possible, the question is if we want it. Yes, if this means rewriting ugly code to make it more reasonable. I do not know the specifics, however. JMarc

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-08 Thread John Levon
0/05/27 11:12:27) moz lyx-devel 109 automake --version automake (GNU automake) 1.4 moz lyx-devel 110 autoconf --version > Personnally I do not really care about the kde frontend, but are we > sure nobody will miss it? Is kde 1.x really dead? it doesn't compile and is incomplete. Unless

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
(as it's not the source of the John bug) Personnally I do not really care about the kde frontend, but are we sure nobody will miss it? Is kde 1.x really dead? JMarc

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-07 Thread Yves Bastide
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:38:01PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: John == John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John Content-Disposition: inline John Things are worse than I thought. My previously reported bug with

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
update autoconf to 2.50 yet. JMarc John> Please apply the attached patch (as it's not the source of the John> bug) Personnally I do not really care about the kde frontend, but are we sure nobody will miss it? Is kde 1.x really dead? JMarc

Re: [PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-07 Thread Yves Bastide
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:38:01PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > John> Content-Disposition: inline > > John> Things are worse than I thought. My previously

[PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-06 Thread John Levon
Things are worse than I thought. My previously reported bug with autogen.sh and the broken library thing is /not/ due to the attached patch. I currently can't build lyx as a result. Can someone please look into the problem ? Am I the only one who gets the problem with autogen.sh ? Please apply

[PATCH] remove KDE frontend

2001-06-06 Thread John Levon
Things are worse than I thought. My previously reported bug with autogen.sh and the broken library thing is /not/ due to the attached patch. I currently can't build lyx as a result. Can someone please look into the problem ? Am I the only one who gets the problem with autogen.sh ? Please apply

Re: KDE frontend

2001-06-03 Thread Allan Rae
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: frontends/kde/ should be removed as it is unmaintained and is likely to stay that way. What's best to do ? You're abandoning it? What ever happened to the arguement that KDE1 would be around for ages to come? Has KDE2/Qt2 proved so popular? Or are you

Re: KDE frontend

2001-06-03 Thread Allan Rae
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: > frontends/kde/ should be removed as it is unmaintained > and is likely to stay that way. What's best to do ? You're abandoning it? What ever happened to the arguement that KDE1 would be around for ages to come? Has KDE2/Qt2 proved so popular? Or are

[PATCH] remove kde frontend

2001-06-02 Thread John Levon
this gets rid of the kde config gubbins etc. cvs remove -f config/kde.m4 thanks john -- Please crack down on the Chinaman's friends and Hitler's commander. Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast. A boy has never wept ... nor dashed a thousand kim. Did you hear me?

[PATCH] remove kde frontend

2001-06-02 Thread John Levon
this gets rid of the kde config gubbins etc. cvs remove -f config/kde.m4 thanks john -- "Please crack down on the Chinaman's friends and Hitler's commander. Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast. A boy has never wept ... nor dashed a thousand kim. Did you hear me?"

KDE frontend

2001-06-01 Thread John Levon
frontends/kde/ should be removed as it is unmaintained and is likely to stay that way. What's best to do ? Perhaps it could be mvd directly in the repository to the old lyx module or something, to avoid leaving all the dead directories around ? I'll supply a patch shortly to remove KDE stuff

KDE frontend

2001-06-01 Thread John Levon
frontends/kde/ should be removed as it is unmaintained and is likely to stay that way. What's best to do ? Perhaps it could be "mv"d directly in the repository to the old "lyx" module or something, to avoid leaving all the dead directories around ? I'll supply a patch shortly to remove KDE

Re: PATCH: kde frontend

2001-03-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars did this get applied? Yes. JMarc

Re: PATCH: kde frontend

2001-03-02 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 01 March 2001 21:33, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Attached is a small patch to be applied to the HEAD branch of CVS. It | re-enables compilation of the KDE frontend. did this get applied? Apparently so. At least I've just compiled kde

Re: PATCH: kde frontend

2001-03-02 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> did this get applied? Yes. JMarc

Re: PATCH: kde frontend

2001-03-02 Thread Angus Leeming
On Thursday 01 March 2001 21:33, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Attached is a small patch to be applied to the HEAD branch of CVS. It > | re-enables compilation of the KDE frontend. > > did this get applied? Apparentl

Re: PATCH: kde frontend

2001-03-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Attached is a small patch to be applied to the HEAD branch of CVS. It | re-enables compilation of the KDE frontend. did this get applied? Lgb

Re: PATCH: kde frontend

2001-03-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Attached is a small patch to be applied to the HEAD branch of CVS. It | re-enables compilation of the KDE frontend. did this get applied? Lgb

PATCH: kde frontend

2001-02-22 Thread Angus Leeming
Attached is a small patch to be applied to the HEAD branch of CVS. It re-enables compilation of the KDE frontend. Angus patch.diff.gz

PATCH: kde frontend

2001-02-22 Thread Angus Leeming
Attached is a small patch to be applied to the HEAD branch of CVS. It re-enables compilation of the KDE frontend. Angus patch.diff.gz

Re: projects [was: Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend]

2000-12-07 Thread John Levon
On 7 Dec 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | also I personally would like to see a re-organisation of the lyxfunc code | to be more organised, as I briefly mentioned earlier. This would also be a | great oppportunity for me to learn some more advanced

Re: projects [was: Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend]

2000-12-07 Thread John Levon
On 7 Dec 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | also I personally would like to see a re-organisation of the lyxfunc code > | to be more organised, as I briefly mentioned earlier. This would also be a > | great oppportunity for me to learn some more

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-12-06 Thread Allan Rae
On 4 Dec 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Asger If you by infrastructure mean the model abstraction, yes, this Asger will be easy. But once again, you basically just shove Asger complexity into the front-ends: Each

Re: projects [was: Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend]

2000-12-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | also I personally would like to see a re-organisation of the lyxfunc code | to be more organised, as I briefly mentioned earlier. This would also be a | great oppportunity for me to learn some more advanced C++ ;) Yes, please. If not for anything else than

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-12-06 Thread Allan Rae
On 4 Dec 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Asger> If you by infrastructure mean the model abstraction, yes, this > Asger> will be easy. But once again, you basically just shove > Asger> complexity into the front-ends:

Re: projects [was: Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend]

2000-12-06 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | also I personally would like to see a re-organisation of the lyxfunc code | to be more organised, as I briefly mentioned earlier. This would also be a | great oppportunity for me to learn some more advanced C++ ;) Yes, please. If not for anything else

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-12-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asger Therefore, I must retract the argument that GUII will make the Asger model more basic, since obviously it isn't for the dialogs and Asger the menus. Thanks :) Asger If you by infrastructure mean the model abstraction, yes,

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-12-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> Therefore, I must retract the argument that GUII will make the Asger> model more basic, since obviously it isn't for the dialogs and Asger> the menus. Thanks :) Asger> If you by infrastructure mean the model

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On 28 Nov 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Nope. We have several things the provide dynamic menus: I'm glad that the menu model in LyX is more complete than I thought. Congratulations on some good work there. Therefore, I must retract the argument that GUII will make the model more basic,

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-29 Thread Marko Vendelin
I'm not sure what we gain with that. The problems which exist in some architectures (e.g. how do you update a dynamic menu when it is teared off) will continue to exist anyway. If you find a good solution for a frontend, I am sure it will work with the current scheme. The only problem of

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On 28 Nov 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Nope. We have several things the provide dynamic menus: I'm glad that the menu model in LyX is more complete than I thought. Congratulations on some good work there. Therefore, I must retract the argument that GUII will make the model more basic,

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-29 Thread Marko Vendelin
> I'm not sure what we gain with that. The problems which exist in some > architectures (e.g. how do you update a dynamic menu when it is teared off) > will continue to exist anyway. If you find a good solution for a > frontend, I am sure it will work with the current scheme. The only problem

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Angus Leeming
My advice is clear: Small steps. The first step is model/view separation for one toolkit. Honestly, I doubt that you can handle even that task. But please: Don't try to do the big one in one go, or you'll end up with a new 1.1.x. Well I can reassure you on that front. We plan to do

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asger I knew you wouldn't do this, so I have to bring out some Asger heavier ammo: The menus and toolbars. These, you are beginning Asger to tackle, but you haven't quite yet. The current communication model is broken, but the

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Jürgen" == Jürgen Vigna J writes: Jürgen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Matthias" == Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello there, I've been reading this thread when it was nearly over, so all the technical points have been taken. Since I am not going to do that

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On 28 Nov 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Menus and toolbars are read at startup already. It would be better to change them on the fly, but this should be doable. I know the menus and toolbars exist as data structures (after all, we started this together in Italy), and therefore, it's

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asger In parenthesis, we should add that this has been accomplished Asger by defining a minimum feature set: We cut out the dynamic part Asger of the menus that existed previously (i.e. LinuxDoc adaption), Asger and focused on a core

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars I have been thinking of moving _all_ toolbar/menu stuff into the Lars GUI and have _no_ backend support. This will allow the Tk to use Lars whatever method/scheme it sees at the best for its implementaion Lars of toolbars and menus.

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars I have been thinking of moving _all_ toolbar/menu stuff into the | Lars GUI and have _no_ backend support. This will allow the Tk to use | Lars whatever method/scheme it sees at

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars I really think that this code has nothing to do in the Lars "backend", imho it is part of the frontend, if it is directly in Lars the tk code or in the common frontend code does not concern me Lars as much. You just mean that the

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | You just mean that the common code should not be named "backend"? | Well, it's called MenuDesc right now, so it should be OK :) With "backend" I mean the core LyX structures. | Lars Let's imagine a lyx-server-only port. Why should the | Lars

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Yes but we still have the toolbarbackend as a global variable. It should probably be a member of LyXGUI or LyXView (I'm not clear about what is the role of these different classes). Lars Agree. And I belive that the location should

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Angus Leeming
> My advice is clear: Small steps. The first step is model/view separation > for one toolkit. Honestly, I doubt that you can handle even that > task. But please: Don't try to do the big one in one go, or you'll end up > with a new 1.1.x. Well I can reassure you on that front. We plan to do

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> I knew you wouldn't do this, so I have to bring out some Asger> heavier ammo: The menus and toolbars. These, you are beginning Asger> to tackle, but you haven't quite yet. The current communication model is broken, but

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jürgen" == Jürgen Vigna writes: Jürgen> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> "Matthias" == Matthias Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Hello there, I've been reading this thread when it was nearly over, >> so all the technical points have been taken. Since I am not

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On 28 Nov 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Menus and toolbars are read at startup already. It would be better to > change them on the fly, but this should be doable. I know the menus and toolbars exist as data structures (after all, we started this together in Italy), and therefore, it's

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> In parenthesis, we should add that this has been accomplished Asger> by defining a minimum feature set: We cut out the dynamic part Asger> of the menus that existed previously (i.e. LinuxDoc adaption), Asger> and focused

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I have been thinking of moving _all_ toolbar/menu stuff into the Lars> GUI and have _no_ backend support. This will allow the Tk to use Lars> whatever method/scheme it sees at the best for its implementaion Lars> of toolbars

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> I have been thinking of moving _all_ toolbar/menu stuff into the | Lars> GUI and have _no_ backend support. This will allow the Tk to use | Lars> whatever method/scheme

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I really think that this code has nothing to do in the Lars> "backend", imho it is part of the frontend, if it is directly in Lars> the tk code or in the common frontend code does not concern me Lars> as much. You just mean

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | You just mean that the common code should not be named "backend"? | Well, it's called MenuDesc right now, so it should be OK :) With "backend" I mean the core LyX structures. | Lars> Let's imagine a lyx-server-only port. Why should the |

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Yes but we still have the toolbarbackend as a global variable. It should probably be a member of LyXGUI or LyXView (I'm not clear about what is the role of these different classes). Lars> Agree. And I belive that the

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asger Would you be still be enthusiastic to participate in LyX Asger development if GUII was dropped and focus was on Qt as the main Asger toolkit? NO! But I don't know what I would have said before reading Matthias' messages :)

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
"Matthias" == Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello there, I've been reading this thread when it was nearly over, so all the technical points have been taken. Since I am not going to do that again, I'll restrict myself to the subjective part :) Matthias Of course. Restricting LyX

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Matthias" == Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello there, I've been reading this thread when it was nearly over, so all the technical points have been taken. Since I am not going to do that again, I'll restrict myself to the subjective

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Amir Karger
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 05:29:20PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Matthias" == Matthias Ettrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been reading this thread when it was nearly over, so all the technical points have been taken. Since I am not going to do that again, I'll restrict myself to

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
On 24 Nov 2000, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | You have to distuingish between GUII and model/view separation. I really do not see the difference between mvs and guii when only one toolkit is supported, except that with only one toolkit

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> Would you be still be enthusiastic to participate in LyX Asger> development if GUII was dropped and focus was on Qt as the main Asger> toolkit? NO! But I don't know what I would have said before reading Matthias'

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Matthias" == Matthias Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello there, I've been reading this thread when it was nearly over, so all the technical points have been taken. Since I am not going to do that again, I'll restrict myself to the subjective part :) Matthias> Of course.

Re: Fwd: Re: Mandrake and KDe frontend

2000-11-27 Thread Jürgen Vigna
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> "Matthias" == Matthias Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Hello there, >I've been reading this thread when it was nearly over, so all the >technical points have been taken. Since I am not going to do that >again, I'll restrict myself to the

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