Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-06 Thread Matteo Nannini
A: m...@bitchin100.com Rispondi a: m...@bitchin100.com Oggetto: Re: [M100] dual CPU project Count me psyched myself.  I would love to have a Z80 machine in the M100 form factor. CAM

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread C. Magaret
Count me psyched myself. I would love to have a Z80 machine in the M100 form factor. CAM

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Mike Stein
: Stephen Adolph To: m...@bitchin100.com Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [M100] dual CPU project I am fully prepared for the idea that my projects are potentially for me only. Just FYI, I just now ran Turbo Pascal on M100. screen is blurry because it was sc

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Bitchin' :-)

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Stephen Adolph
yah I am quite satisfied with the effort, and encouraged. This idea hatched a year ago and it fell from my active thinking for a while. Now that CP/M is really here (beta unit being evaluated now), I became interested in getting this to work again. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:23 PM Joshua O'Keefe

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Hank Riley
That's a really impressive achievement, Steve! (please note picture and all the quoted messages except one are removed)__ On Friday, June 5, 2020, 04:04:53 PM EDT, Stephen Adolph wrote: I am fully prepared for the idea that

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Joshua O'Keefe
On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:04 PM, Stephen Adolph wrote:. > Just FYI, I just now ran Turbo Pascal on M100. From the perspective of someone outside the project, this visual evidence is amazing!

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Joe Grubbs
Running Turbo Pascal is reason enough for me! Fond memories for me on Computer Science classes

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Stephen Adolph
Sent:* Friday, June 05, 2020 10:44 AM > *Subject:* Re: [M100] dual CPU project > > Hello all, > Interesting update. > So, I've been working on getting NSC800 AKA Z80 processor to work in the > M100 such that it can be used in CP/M as an alternative processor. > > Great new

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Ken Pettit
<mailto:twospru...@gmail.com> *To:* m...@bitchin100.com <mailto:m...@bitchin100.com> *Sent:* Friday, June 05, 2020 10:44 AM *Subject:* Re: [M100] dual CPU project Hello all, Interesting update. So, I've been working on getting NSC800 AKA Z80 proce

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Mike Stein
] dual CPU project Hello all, Interesting update. So, I've been working on getting NSC800 AKA Z80 processor to work in the M100 such that it can be used in CP/M as an alternative processor. Great news is that I now have a solution for actually running the M100 using the NSC800

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Stephen Adolph
share the bus simultaneously, or is only > one or the other (like a Commodore 128)? > > -- > *From:* M100 on behalf of Stephen > Adolph > *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2020 10:44 AM > *To:* m...@bitchin100.com > *Subject:* Re: [M100] dual CPU projec

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Joe Grubbs
:44 AM To: m...@bitchin100.com Subject: Re: [M100] dual CPU project Hello all, Interesting update. So, I've been working on getting NSC800 AKA Z80 processor to work in the M100 such that it can be used in CP/M as an alternative processor. Great news is that I now have a solution for actually

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-06-05 Thread Stephen Adolph
Hello all, Interesting update. So, I've been working on getting NSC800 AKA Z80 processor to work in the M100 such that it can be used in CP/M as an alternative processor. Great news is that I now have a solution for actually running the M100 using the NSC800! Not that it really matters; there

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-30 Thread William stewart
I somewhat, vaguely recall this posting last summer from you. I had my mind on other things as there were painters in the house and they were doing more damage than good. That being said I would like to make this one statement very clear concerning this project. SIGN ME UP!! Late last year I

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-30 Thread Joe Grubbs
: Re: [M100] dual CPU project No, it is a plug in board but it plugs into the CPU socket (ahwhich does not exist!) On my bench system I did the work to take out the CPU and added a socket. Then I plug an expansion card into it. Good idea though about the system bus, I'll have to think

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-30 Thread Stephen Adolph
No, it is a plug in board but it plugs into the CPU socket (ahwhich does not exist!) On my bench system I did the work to take out the CPU and added a socket. Then I plug an expansion card into it. Good idea though about the system bus, I'll have to think about that. I'm almost done a

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-30 Thread Ken Pettit
Hey Steve, Oh great! One more emulation I need to add to VirtualT! ;) Nice work! How do you wire it it? System bus? Ken On 5/30/20 5:04 AM, Stephen Adolph wrote: ...and I just now this second got the NSC800 to run in the M100 successfully. It is driving the LCD at the moment. I think the

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-30 Thread Stephen Adolph
...and I just now this second got the NSC800 to run in the M100 successfully. It is driving the LCD at the moment. I think the interrupts are different, and more work to do, but it is officially alive. yay! On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 6:32 AM William stewart wrote: > Stephen, > Are you suggesting

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-30 Thread Stephen Adolph
yup, switchable so that CP/M can run Z80. On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 6:32 AM William stewart wrote: > Stephen, > Are you suggesting a swap of the 8085? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 29, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > Reviving this thread. > Now that we have a solid CP/M

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-30 Thread William stewart
Stephen, Are you suggesting a swap of the 8085? Sent from my iPhone > On May 29, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > Reviving this thread. > Now that we have a solid CP/M application written in 8080, there should be a > way to boot into CP/M using the NSC800. > I dropped this

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2020-05-29 Thread Stephen Adolph
Reviving this thread. Now that we have a solid CP/M application written in 8080, there should be a way to boot into CP/M using the NSC800. I dropped this project some time back but it is time to revive it, as a processor swap would be a cleaner way to expanding the CP/M application universe for

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Brian K. White
While looking for other possible uses for the 3d-printed modified molex carrier and matching pcb, I discovered the Epson PX-8, which has a z80 and runs cp/m, so, I would guess that means there is even already at least some sort of body of code to use cp/m on a device like this. I guess that

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread William stewart
I'm interested. I have a M100 I'd like to see CP/M run on. Smack me up! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Stephen Adolph wrote: > > Motivated by 2 things > 1) discovery of the NSC800 Z80 processor that is 80C85 like > 2) continuing to work in the direcition of CP/M > 3) and

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Josh Malone
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 1:17 PM Ken Pettit wrote: > > Yes, it is bit sampled. Also system time would run too fast and your > modem would run at a higher baud rate. I thought the UART chip handled the baud rate, not the CPU clocking things. -Josh

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Stephen Adolph
much of this can be addressed with a rom patch ,I believe. On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 1:30 PM John R. Hogerhuis wrote: > Ah I missed the obvious things. I was thinking that the time and baud rate > were based on hardware not software timing. But I guess they all would be > changed by the higher

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Ah I missed the obvious things. I was thinking that the time and baud rate were based on hardware not software timing. But I guess they all would be changed by the higher clock. -- John.

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Ken Pettit
Yes, it is bit sampled. Also system time would run too fast and your modem would run at a higher baud rate. Ken On 7/11/19 10:12 AM, John R. Hogerhuis wrote: Very cool Steve. I'm interested but I don't know if I can manage the install. I'd think the software timing things that will break

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
Very cool Steve. I'm interested but I don't know if I can manage the install. I'd think the software timing things that will break in the ROM would be cassette I/O, key repeat, sound, I guess. Is the BCR bit sampled? -- John.

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Tom Dison
Wow! On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 10:30 AM Stephen Adolph wrote: > thanks Tom; I'd be happy to get you one of these + the REXCPM 4MB module > that ties it all together for CP/M > > Did I mention REXCPM is now based on 4MB SRAM? that's a lot of disk > space!!! > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:16 AM

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Josh Malone
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:30 AM Stephen Adolph wrote: > > thanks Tom; I'd be happy to get you one of these + the REXCPM 4MB module that > ties it all together for CP/M > > Did I mention REXCPM is now based on 4MB SRAM? that's a lot of disk space!!! Wow!

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Stephen Adolph
thanks Tom; I'd be happy to get you one of these + the REXCPM 4MB module that ties it all together for CP/M Did I mention REXCPM is now based on 4MB SRAM? that's a lot of disk space!!! On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:16 AM Tom Dison wrote: > I'm interested, especially as I have a M100 and several

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Stephen Adolph
Josh, I'll know soon enough about height clearances. Will take lots of pictures. I think there is room however in the M100. A socket on the M100 board is a mandatory so you can revert to normal operation. So, worst case is that the card itself has no sockets, but has the 2 CPUs soldered in

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Tom Dison
I'm interested, especially as I have a M100 and several CP/M laptops. On Thu, Jul 11, 2019, 10:14 AM Josh Malone wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:31 AM Stephen Adolph > wrote: > > > Board is done and heading to the fab. VHDL is mostly done. > > > > I don't expect this board will be wildly

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Josh Malone
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:31 AM Stephen Adolph wrote: > Board is done and heading to the fab. VHDL is mostly done. > > I don't expect this board will be wildly popular but maybe it has some > interest Double speed M100 seems interesting on it's own, let alone being > able to support Z80

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Stephen Adolph
yah good point. not really sure about all the impacts of 5MHz. I'm guessing it will need some patches in certain things. The capability is a soft switch meaning you can just type a simple OUT command and switch on the fly to fast mode. So, perhaps that's the work around. Might really mess up

Re: [M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Kurt McCullum
Steve, Not owning a 100 I can't dive into this but I am definitely watching to see what you come up with. The 5mhz upgrade is really interesting. I do wonder what that will do to all the apps that have specific timing (ie: TS-DOS delay). Will the clock get messed up? But if this leads to CP/M

[M100] dual CPU project

2019-07-11 Thread Stephen Adolph
Motivated by 2 things 1) discovery of the NSC800 Z80 processor that is 80C85 like 2) continuing to work in the direcition of CP/M 3) and recalling that there are 5MHz 80C85 parts out there.. I started to work on a dual CPU card for M100 that enables a couple of things; - standard 2.5MHz 80C85